Oh by the way top pc games destory top console games. You know japan right they are so far behide the west when it comes to online gaming and gaming because they fucas way too much on consoles. They are now behide the west in gaming because they they don't play pc games.
because of consoles EA was brought to it's knees, who is shining in the actvision blizzard. You know why because of pc gaming.
That is why EA is rsuhinh to get into the online business.
In fact pc gaming brought THQ back from going bankupt, with dawn of war!
empire total war robed killzone 2 of it's gorly in a recssion.
I sorry dream hunk but I fail to see where in those links the consoles are to blame for anything if you ask me it seems more like the hugh street retailers are to blame.
your behind in gaming argument is flawed as well are trying to say you have to be on a pc to be up to date with gaming.
some of these people on the website who's job it is to report about gaming seem to missing out the biggest fact about pc which most pcs owned are not cable of running games at a decent level and not a lot of people would know how to go about making a pc cable of gaming so they will just buy a console as long as there are buyer there will be a product.
think of it like this with books and music the publishers always get loads more than anyone else the authors seem to get the least but still get rich coz it's only one person or a small group but with game the developers(author/artist) is a big company but they still get the least amount of money from the product so if ask me it's more to do how the entertainment industry is that is killing the devs and then the consoles.
well I guess then more game devs will fined them self out of work. More publishers and console game devs will go bankuprt. Consoles were slowly killing them before the recssion. Now the recssion is now here it has speed things up a bite.
Console gaming has a real nice track record of making companies go bankuprt. By the time this resssion is over I will alot more companies go bankuprt. The costs of consoles costing around $100 or more. It seems to me that alot of big companies like nice big red numbers.
If PC Gaming is dying (its not) why are there so many dang Gaming mice!? Everybody and their mother makes PC gaming mice. The sad part is I'm addicted to them and feel the need to buy one every time a new one is released. This habit makes PC gaming expensive. ;)
One thing I've missed in all the remarks I've read so far is all about something you can't do with console games, something exclusive to the PC Games market - not all games, I'll admit, but something that extends the life of so many games that even after console gamers forget about playing brilliant games like Fallout 3 or Oblivion, a PC Gamer can continue playing for months and still not have seen everything there is to see or do - its what keeps me playing alot of my large library of PC Games, going back over 15 years - THE GREAT PC MODDING COMMUNITY.
Not all PC gamers have to be played online, but access to mods which in some cases improve on a game, or change the game into something the original owners never intended, is a major reason PC games will be around for a longtime after the PS3/Xbox360 retire into a long forgotten past.
OMG, I just looked at the PC release list for September. Easily over 12 games I'm interested in. PC gaming needs to die so I can keep up with all the games. ;)
Originally Posted by CardJoe Digital distribution is an easy thing to suggest, but the reality is that big companies like Activision, Ubisoft and EA simply won't let Valve and D2D control the space for long. There'll come in and try to do it themselves, meaning you'll suddenly need a hundred different log-ins and have to cope with all these different programs on your PC doing whatever.
Imagine having a different digital distribution platform for each publisher. Brr.
use valve and let them have a cut.............unfortunately 75 quid a game suddenly looks likely.
this would indeed be a nightmare scenario, given that few companies seem to be able to write a piece of software for this purpose.
the problem here is that valve are a game dev, and i can see a cross of interests there. what we really need here is a third party company to come in just be so good at what they do that everyone converts. unlikely though!
Originally Posted by crompers this would indeed be a nightmare scenario, given that few companies seem to be able to write a piece of software for this purpose.
the problem here is that valve are a game dev, and i can see a cross of interests there. what we really need here is a third party company to come in just be so good at what they do that everyone converts. unlikely though!
There have been whispers of Valve spinning the Steam Team out into a separate company from the developers, but I wouldn't count on it coming in the immediate future if ever.
P.C. will never die they just multiply. Once I finished upgrading my first P.C. I wound up having so many left over parts that I now have 2 P.C.s' and after the arrival of Direct x 11 and windows 7 I will upgrade again and I will be a part or two short of having 3 P.C. capable of playing games (1 at max settings and 2 at mid to high settings). So that right there shows you how important P.C. and P.C. gaming is to the gaming industry. PC gaming is the industry!
PC owners spend alot of money on hardware so we are very selective and informed about software. PC owners generally dont waste money on crappy games thanks to demos and other means. For example Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky were full of bugs but both games were so good that they sold really well even though any forum would have a million complaints about the bugs and needed fixes. Also the PC software generally doesnt get exclusive advertising on national tv. Yes if a game comes out cross platform you will see the little PC symbol at the bottom right hand corner at the very end of the commercial but never (with the exemption of the SIMS and WOW) see a pc only game get a commercial.Crysis sold a couple million units with only a Electronics show showing and word of mouth (and some well reviewed magazine articles)
Consoles on the other hand where Microsoft and Sony are both loosing money on every console sold need gamers to buy games so they can turn a profit. At this rate neither company is going to turn a profit on consoles because....... wait for it........ they are going to have to make a new console to compete with the power of a Direct x 11 PC and just so you know the XBOX360 and PS3 basically use Direct x 9 so the next gen consoles will only be Direct X 10 and by then the PC will be on Direct X 11.5 or 12.
Anyway the xbox360 has reached it peak and the PS3 took too long to drop it's price so both companies are already developing new consoles. The next Gen war has been won by the last Gen Wii but the PC is still King because it represents the future and innovation of video games not mass marketing appeal. Besides even Steve Jobs will tell you that 'you can't make a video game without a PC".
Developers and publishers see consoles as an easier option because they are closed platforms with identical hardware and piracy is supposedly less prevalent. I can understand that, they want to make money but they think we are just going to pirate the games and they'll end up making a loss. Fair enough I think.
People come onto gaming forums saying they are going to pirate this or that, either because of the DRM or just because they think it is acceptable to essentially contribute to the downfall of PC gaming, yet as a community, we don't turn around and say "No, that's not cool, go away". If we want the cutting edge titles to keep coming, shouldn't we marginalise and ostracise those who insist on pirating games instead of handing over £25 - the price of a takeaway and a couple of beers - for a few hours entertainment? Piracy isn't a victimless crime - it's just that the victims are other legitimate gamers who see a flurry of poorly optimised console ports instead of groundbreaking, graphically impressive and original titles - not the developers who will just take their business elsewhere.
PC gaming itself won't die out, but the charts will be full of Sims 3 addons and subscription MMO's as well as dated console ports.
Also, bemoaning the lack of achievements on games? Does that really add anything to the experience? Yeah I killed one gazillion enemies. I spent ten years getting all the achievements. The developers should be able to make the game enjoyable without needing to draw on the 'Ooh shiny' reaction of sheeple.
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Replyhigh production costs and consoles are killling game devs in a resssion here let me relink some links I posted earlyer for
here look console game devs are going bankuprt
http://www.edge-online.com/news/playlogic-reports-loss-of-33-million
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3174841
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/video-game-makers-seeing-red/
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090506005551&newsLang=en
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/483/the-developer-graveyard
here is the state of them consoles
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/05/e3-predictions/
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/retailing/article6628517.ece
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/06/pachter/
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/consoles-could-soon-become-niche-products-playfish
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/video-game-makers-seeing-red/
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3277020
because of consoles EA was brought to it's knees, who is shining in the actvision blizzard. You know why because of pc gaming.
That is why EA is rsuhinh to get into the online business.
In fact pc gaming brought THQ back from going bankupt, with dawn of war!
empire total war robed killzone 2 of it's gorly in a recssion.
your behind in gaming argument is flawed as well are trying to say you have to be on a pc to be up to date with gaming.
some of these people on the website who's job it is to report about gaming seem to missing out the biggest fact about pc which most pcs owned are not cable of running games at a decent level and not a lot of people would know how to go about making a pc cable of gaming so they will just buy a console as long as there are buyer there will be a product.
http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/
http://pc.ign.com/index/release.html
http://www.gamingdaily.co.uk/2009/independent-gaming/
well I guess then more game devs will fined them self out of work. More publishers and console game devs will go bankuprt. Consoles were slowly killing them before the recssion. Now the recssion is now here it has speed things up a bite.
Console gaming has a real nice track record of making companies go bankuprt. By the time this resssion is over I will alot more companies go bankuprt. The costs of consoles costing around $100 or more. It seems to me that alot of big companies like nice big red numbers.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/159963-is-there-a-need-for-game-publishers-any-more
Cooler Master is getting into the game with thier "Sentinel Advance" gaming mouse. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/news/4138
http://www.vg247.com/2009/09/04/splatterhouse-dev-bottlerocket-shuts-its-doors/
I hear the ps3 got broken over in japan.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/japanese-ps3-sales-tumble-ahead-of-slim-launch
I wonder who will be the next publisher or console game dev to go bankuprt?
Not all PC gamers have to be played online, but access to mods which in some cases improve on a game, or change the game into something the original owners never intended, is a major reason PC games will be around for a longtime after the PS3/Xbox360 retire into a long forgotten past.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60365
http://kotaku.com/5206876/what-ails-the-worlds-biggest-gaming-platform
use valve and let them have a cut.............unfortunately 75 quid a game suddenly looks likely.
the problem here is that valve are a game dev, and i can see a cross of interests there. what we really need here is a third party company to come in just be so good at what they do that everyone converts. unlikely though!
There have been whispers of Valve spinning the Steam Team out into a separate company from the developers, but I wouldn't count on it coming in the immediate future if ever.
http://www.vg247.com/2009/09/14/spawn-labs-launches-console-games-streaming-box/
PC owners spend alot of money on hardware so we are very selective and informed about software. PC owners generally dont waste money on crappy games thanks to demos and other means. For example Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky were full of bugs but both games were so good that they sold really well even though any forum would have a million complaints about the bugs and needed fixes. Also the PC software generally doesnt get exclusive advertising on national tv. Yes if a game comes out cross platform you will see the little PC symbol at the bottom right hand corner at the very end of the commercial but never (with the exemption of the SIMS and WOW) see a pc only game get a commercial.Crysis sold a couple million units with only a Electronics show showing and word of mouth (and some well reviewed magazine articles)
Consoles on the other hand where Microsoft and Sony are both loosing money on every console sold need gamers to buy games so they can turn a profit. At this rate neither company is going to turn a profit on consoles because....... wait for it........ they are going to have to make a new console to compete with the power of a Direct x 11 PC and just so you know the XBOX360 and PS3 basically use Direct x 9 so the next gen consoles will only be Direct X 10 and by then the PC will be on Direct X 11.5 or 12.
Anyway the xbox360 has reached it peak and the PS3 took too long to drop it's price so both companies are already developing new consoles. The next Gen war has been won by the last Gen Wii but the PC is still King because it represents the future and innovation of video games not mass marketing appeal. Besides even Steve Jobs will tell you that 'you can't make a video game without a PC".
People come onto gaming forums saying they are going to pirate this or that, either because of the DRM or just because they think it is acceptable to essentially contribute to the downfall of PC gaming, yet as a community, we don't turn around and say "No, that's not cool, go away". If we want the cutting edge titles to keep coming, shouldn't we marginalise and ostracise those who insist on pirating games instead of handing over £25 - the price of a takeaway and a couple of beers - for a few hours entertainment? Piracy isn't a victimless crime - it's just that the victims are other legitimate gamers who see a flurry of poorly optimised console ports instead of groundbreaking, graphically impressive and original titles - not the developers who will just take their business elsewhere.
PC gaming itself won't die out, but the charts will be full of Sims 3 addons and subscription MMO's as well as dated console ports.
yyou want to tlak piracy the wii has a much bigger pirate than pc gaming.
here is the real truth about game devs big companies like microsoft ,gamestopand sony want pc gaming dead!
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=60207
http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/07/12/has-microsoft-killed-pc-gaming-in-retail-stores-one-site-says/
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53403
http://downloadablesuicide.com/2009/07/16/pc-gaming-its-problems-stem-from-mistreatment/
http://www.edge-online.com/news/microsoft-pc-gaming-still-a-priority
http://www.edge-online.com/features/is-microsoft-really-committed-pc
mirco softs game devs that spread lies about pc gaming
http://kotaku.com/5058402/molyneux-says-pc-gaming-market-in-tatters
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36390/118/
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/02/gears-of-war-cr/
http://www.digitalbattle.com/2008/09/30/why-gears-of-war-2-isnt-on-pc-piracy/
where is all the console pircay rates why are they not posting them? they use to post the pircay numbers on console games.
the gaming industry is a joke
the gaming industry is hustle to wards pc gamers and pc gaming, why because big companies like sony and microsoft are losing billions on consoles!
http://www.pcworld.com/article/172300/hey_microsoft_we_need_more_games_for_windows.html
That link is wrong. We need LESS GFWL, not more.
No, we need good GFWL. I'm sure if it wasn't rage-inducingly awful then most people wouldn't care less.
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