Everyone here in asia has a computer and no console (excluding japan) an arcade xbox360 costs 1966 rmb = 290$ in china
any country in asia can show that pc gaming isn't dead
any person can show you that pc gaming isn't dead because they own a computer. however the crysis market will always be niche' don't you think?
as far as i've seen my cousin, china's gaming market largely consist of crappy machines running what i regard as mini-games, mostly downloaded through QQ.
and that, i don't think can be called proper PC gaming. gaming with proper hardware such as Crysis is where PC gaming should be at, offering better experience than consoles.
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Originally Posted by CardJoe I'd question that, purely as devil's advocate. I think most of the mass audience doesn't care about the interface as long as it looks simple and just works, so a keyboard may be acceptable. I'd also say that an RTS would would VERY well with a good implementation of a motion sensitive or camera-based interface.
Also, as discussed in the article, that single point isn't enough and there's nothing to stop developers from "just dumbing it down" (or abandoning the genre altogether, for the larger publishers) if they make more money from consoles.
It's like with keyboards. The DVORAK layout is much better than a QWERTY layout, but the QWERTY is the one which became standard and which everyone would claim to prefer (in a mass market). It doesn't matter if the keyboard is better, not if the dual sticks or motion controller is 'good enough' for the mass audience that publishers are increasingly targeting.
the good-enough-tech may very well be the down-fall of PC gaming. halo wars works good enough for a dumbed down RTS on console.
but as you concluded, these things goes up and down with console generations. im pretty sure at the end of current gen console life cycle, CryEngine 4 will be released for PC and, again, push the boundary of PC hardware.
You can't beat a mouse for controlling some types of games. If console games actually let me use a real controller like a mouse then I might buy a console. Consoles and computers are merging closer because only PC based hardware can provide that type of performance. Development of games goes better on a PC as well. What we could see is software frameworks that enable more console games on PC's in the future.
What is Sony going to use in the PS4, probably an Intel chip because others are too expensive (Sony learned a lesson about overpricing) and another Nvidia graphics chip. The Xbox4, probably another Intel chip and another ATI graphics chip.
Who knows, maybe we will start to see PCIe cards that enable a PC to run as a Xbox4/PS4? Maybe that's how future Radeon and Geforce graphics cards will be distinguished? The way virtualization is becoming commonly hardware accelerated in all PC CPU's makes it even easier to see this. The console OS could easily run aside the PC OS and be fully hardware accelerated.
I found a funny video on youtube about pc gaming dying lol, I find it funny pc gaming is 60 billion dallor Industry and every chances console gamers get they keep saying it's dying.
PC gaming dying - i would say gaming been quite dead for some time, not enough strong releases with a proper gameplay exceeding 15hrs, originality, story and so on. what we've seen recently is just nicely packaged rubbish.
As PC and console gaming goes, I own both but must admit that I play on Xbox360 only titles for two players like fifa, nhl, ufc... and on PC I play racing, fps and strategy games.
What i'm waiting for is a silent game console and then bye bye PC :) would get a laptop and sell my box with all gear for it (screens, controllers...)
Originally Posted by El Rando I know this is a tad bit off topic but I see no problem with the price of MW2. I expect to pay maximum £40 and play have got it for £35. I paid £40 for GTA:VC back in 2003 so maybe it's just me but I see no problem with the pricing of PC games.
Infact Ignore that. I would delete it but it'd make more sense if I kept it. I've just rephrased that sentence in my head and came out with :- I don't mind paying £40 for games but, only if I know they're gonna be good. Recently I have seen myself not buying many PC games due to this. So Yeah I agree with you crompers but I'll still pay for MW2.
Originally Posted by dreamhunk I found a funny video on youtube about pc gaming dying lol, I find it funny pc gaming is 60 billion dallor Industry and every chances console gamers get they keep saying it's dying.
/you seem to have missed the evolution of PC games. The entire gaming market is becoming more and more niche based, each console is going to start to pander to specific audiences where they have strengths. The PC will evolve to become a platform for new niches - most likely subscription games and free to play games and casual/flash based games.
It's dying in the sense that core games are being dumbed down for the console gen - sadly that's true - but there are other forms of gaming around. From what I hear, Asian countries have a much bigger PC market than console market. If western markets can learn to adapt and evolve then PC gaming will become it's own niche.
Originally Posted by wiak dying? more like consoles destroys the pc gaming industry
why?, just look at wolfenstein, its more made for crappy consoles than the PC, many other games also goes after consoles instead of the superior graphics technology and performance of PCs
a Radeon HD 4870 class graphics card is 2 times faster than Radeon HD 2900 (Xbox 360) and faster than Geforce 7800 (Playstation 3)
so consoles are outdated, PCs for the WIN!
You can call consoles inferior, until you realize that the Xbox 360 came out in 2005 and the PS3/Wii in 2006. Obviously the newest and best PC gaming technology is better than the 2005/2006 variety. Do you think all of the console makers are just sitting around, counting their money? What electronics company has a product out for 4 years and hasn't begun designing a newer and better version.
Comparing the Xbox 360 to the HD 4870 is comparing apples to oranges. I can buy a brand new Xbox for $200. Or I can buy a HD 4870 for $400. Which will result in more gaming fun? Obviously the Xbox, since the only thing fun to do with the HD 4870 is to put plastic army men on it and stage a mock battle as the soldiers from Capacitor Forest wage war to Heatsink City.
To even get that investment usable, you probably need another $800 in PC components. So a top-of-the-line gaming PC is a full order of magnitude more expensive than the consoles, which is a big issue.
Yes, there's the argument "well everyone already has a PC" but most people don't already have a gaming PC. Browsing bit-tech, playing music, streaming the occasional youtube video, we could easily do that with a computer that's 4-5 years old. It's far more expensive to always have technology made in the last year or two, to be able to play the newest games at their best.
Yes, there's the argument "well everyone already has a PC" but most people don't already have a gaming PC. Browsing bit-tech, playing music, streaming the occasional youtube video, we could easily do that with a computer that's 4-5 years old. It's far more expensive to always have technology made in the last year or two, to be able to play the newest games at their best.
hence why the asian game market got it right. they make games for the lowest common denominator (probably a Pentium 2 MMX 440 with 64 mb ram lol) and that means everyone can play them, the games are more focused on good gameplay and they work and sell amazingly.
I didn't read all the comments, but I figured I would chip in.
While I can appreciate that the whole "PC is dying" argument comes and goes, I think the really worrying thing here is that casual gaming has never been so big and easy to make money off. I don't ever see PC gaming dying (like the article said, there are way too many big players involved to see that happen), but what I do see is more and more dumbing down of PC games so that they can also come out on consoles, and I can see games like Crysis popping up with a lot less regularity.
Unfortunately, the article is right with the notion that it is all about the money. I hope I am wrong, and many studios rally forth and create truly amazing graphical advances, innovative ideas and the kind of gameplay that makes you want to shout about the game to the nearest person, but I don't really see that happening when you can make a game like Wii Sports and sell billions of copies.
I can only sympathise with developers who slog their guts out, make a good but not amazing game, and then see it get beaten ten fold by a collection of minigames. Even amazing games just don't sell well on PC (usually).
Comparing the Xbox 360 to the HD 4870 is comparing apples to oranges. I can buy a brand new Xbox for $200. Or I can buy a HD 4870 for $400. Which will result in more gaming fun? Obviously the Xbox, since the only thing fun to do with the HD 4870 is to put plastic army men on it and stage a mock battle as the soldiers from Capacitor Forest wage war to Heatsink City.
To even get that investment usable, you probably need another $800 in PC components. So a top-of-the-line gaming PC is a full order of magnitude more expensive than the consoles, which is a big issue.
Yes, there's the argument "well everyone already has a PC" but most people don't already have a gaming PC. Browsing bit-tech, playing music, streaming the occasional youtube video, we could easily do that with a computer that's 4-5 years old. It's far more expensive to always have technology made in the last year or two, to be able to play the newest games at their best.
Rubbish, my 4-5 year old PC (a64) can cope with all of games i've played on it and with the 3 year old 8800gt it can display them better than a x360.
What i tend to avoid is badly ported resource hogs like GTA4.
in short, large AAA titles won't be PC exclusive at all in the future :( in a way, i see this as death of PC gaming.
Exactly, people miss the point, PC gaming will always be there as long as PC's are, but, when we see no PC exclusives taking advantage of the PC platform, IMO, that is basically the death of it.
Originally Posted by Altron You can call consoles inferior, until you realize that the Xbox 360 came out in 2005 and the PS3/Wii in 2006. Obviously the newest and best PC gaming technology is better than the 2005/2006 variety. Do you think all of the console makers are just sitting around, counting their money? What electronics company has a product out for 4 years and hasn't begun designing a newer and better version.
Comparing the Xbox 360 to the HD 4870 is comparing apples to oranges. I can buy a brand new Xbox for $200. Or I can buy a HD 4870 for $400. Which will result in more gaming fun? Obviously the Xbox, since the only thing fun to do with the HD 4870 is to put plastic army men on it and stage a mock battle as the soldiers from Capacitor Forest wage war to Heatsink City.
To even get that investment usable, you probably need another $800 in PC components. So a top-of-the-line gaming PC is a full order of magnitude more expensive than the consoles, which is a big issue.
Yes, there's the argument "well everyone already has a PC" but most people don't already have a gaming PC. Browsing bit-tech, playing music, streaming the occasional youtube video, we could easily do that with a computer that's 4-5 years old. It's far more expensive to always have technology made in the last year or two, to be able to play the newest games at their best.
WOW, what ignorance, 1 4870 is around 150, and, comparing cost to a machine that can do all a PC can, against one that only does 1 or 2 things is not fair is it? Also keep in mind, most already have a PC in the home, if you factor that in wioth the extra cost of a console, may as well upgrade said PC a little more, making it barely anymore expensive. PC gaming is NOt near as expensive as people like you make out, not at all.
Leper is right on every count, but misses the point - which is that if the majority of people have an assumption that is close to Altron's and don't bother to get corrected then it doesn't matter how right you are Leper - you're still wrong.
Piracy is everywhere except in the PS3, so if piracy is the problem then why do they still make so many Xbox360 games? Xbox360 pirated games are even worse because you can actually play them online, multiplayer, coop and not get banned by Microsoft!...
You can't play a PC pirated game like that, unless you use hamachi and play the 1.0v of the game which we all know sucks and still the experience is not 1/8 of an original game...
piracy is on the ps3 too also the nintendo wii and dsi have much bigger piracy rates than pc gaming does, it's over a billion. Mircosoft have been losing billions on consoles so they had their game devs trash talking pc gaming.
the wii ans dsi piracy must be over 2 to 3 billion by now.
the decline of pc games at retail is a reslut from gamestop and microsoft. Here is a few link more links. Basicly big bussines wants to destory pc gaming. micorsoft has already lost billions on consoles do they are trying to force pc gamers into buying consoles. EB games or Gamestop they don't make money on new games. it is why pc gamers are treated like dirt. They make their games off of the use game market.
In fact they had epic games and lionheadstrash talking pc gaming
Personally I think the PC needs to evolve like consoles have into multimedia machines and yes pc can all ready do a lot more multimedia things than console but they require the keyboard and mouse which is not the best thing for a lot of multimedia activities, the pc needs to be reinvented to have the image for what it can do which is to be the heart of the home, the office and the entertainment at the same time.
So people may dislike what I’m about to say but I think it needs to be done the pc needs its configuration to be simpler than it is now, if people knew how much the value for money pc you could build I think the home would be a very different place than it is today.
Leper is right on every count, but misses the point - which is that if the majority of people have an assumption that is close to Altron's and don't bother to get corrected then it doesn't matter how right you are Leper - you're still wrong.
Which proves my theory, 90% of the population are stupid and ignorant.
on one hand, you know you can probably make money if the title is good- but single player without an addicting multiplayer component aka mmo or cod4, css, ect is going to be cracked and put out day one
torrents are a issue that could be stomped if it wasn't for the fact it works better the more people you have in the swarm.. so the crackers- in order to attract these mongloids like flies, make very simple installs, his reward is a bunch of mongloids repeating his handle across space
then you have the search engines to find these.. besides google, they make money off donations/ads- so catering to this pool of people is the breadwagon.. funny is they actually have a following of people who think they are doing it for some cause other than that paycheck.. things were alot simpler before napster did it- same with kazza.. what does your general butt wrangler use today, limewire (this program alone has kept many pc fixers in business)
it's all become a mess.. now I'm totally down with young kids pirating these expensive apps and learning- they wouldn't have access to it outside of college otherwise.. but games, unless your cracking them it's not really something you need.. wish the younger crackers would realize that today before the pc gaming market does die down any more.. racing to put out that game first for the donkeys might not be the best idea
problem is these taco poppers who are the target audience and can buy things, getting it all for free (while they are franks puppet on the botnet).. I wouldn't mind if the isp's put a stop to it- it would be so simple for them to do that- they can see everything you do.. but that's where it comes back to the money.. hardware makers love piracy- it sells the goods every year.. isp's love having customers and bandwidth has become cheap
might be down to crackers just having some willpower and holding back releases to the public on new titles.. that way if the title is good it will sell.. the only thing I can think of with any real impact given what we have today on the net- it will never happen, I just don't see any other way unless the isp's hire a bunch of clowns with patches cut out the crotch, pay a visit anyone out of control
&edit might well add to this.. drm needs to be kept in check- privacy is important, and soon as the public gets complacent you'll have some yokel devs thinking why not get all the information we need.. what worries me about steam/gfwl, there should always be backlash to spyware
Originally Posted by wuyanxu yes, because you can never put a good RTS game onto console controls without dumbing it down.
I can think of one way....voice commands. with the wii remote d-pad for camera movement and if the remote was sensitive enough for drag and drop the rest could be done with voice commands. simply barking out team x defend base would be pretty cool. Guess the problem then comes with AI tho.
TBH I think PC gaming will survive. The market is sorta split into grandparents etc with the wii, casual and some hardcore gamers with the ps3 and xbox and hardcore on the PC. As the article said, there will always be some developer who will release an pc exclusive. It might be few and far between but if aimed at the hardcore gamer then the pc shouldn't have a problem. After all, it can still play ports.
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Replyand that, i don't think can be called proper PC gaming. gaming with proper hardware such as Crysis is where PC gaming should be at, offering better experience than consoles.
the good-enough-tech may very well be the down-fall of PC gaming. halo wars works good enough for a dumbed down RTS on console.
but as you concluded, these things goes up and down with console generations. im pretty sure at the end of current gen console life cycle, CryEngine 4 will be released for PC and, again, push the boundary of PC hardware.
What is Sony going to use in the PS4, probably an Intel chip because others are too expensive (Sony learned a lesson about overpricing) and another Nvidia graphics chip. The Xbox4, probably another Intel chip and another ATI graphics chip.
Who knows, maybe we will start to see PCIe cards that enable a PC to run as a Xbox4/PS4? Maybe that's how future Radeon and Geforce graphics cards will be distinguished? The way virtualization is becoming commonly hardware accelerated in all PC CPU's makes it even easier to see this. The console OS could easily run aside the PC OS and be fully hardware accelerated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsTwgUo9Blw&feature=related
when pc gaming clearly has the must games made for every year.
http://kotaku.com/5037023/more-developers-working-on-pc-xbox-360-titles
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10291692-1.html
http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7960498.stm
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/why-the-future-looks-bright-for-pc-gaming-589422
If kind funny game devs like to trash pc gaming but yet they are going bankuprt because of consoles
http://www.edge-online.com/news/playlogic-reports-loss-of-33-million
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3174841
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/video-game-makers-seeing-red/
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090506005551&newsLang=en
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/483/the-developer-graveyard
here is the state of them consoles
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/05/e3-predictions/
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/retailing/article6628517.ece
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/06/pachter/
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/consoles-could-soon-become-niche-products-playfish
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/video-game-makers-seeing-red/
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3277020
here is a list of some games on the pc by notice how much more games there is on the pc than consoles
http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/
http://pc.ign.com/index/release.html
http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/
http://pc.ign.com/index/release.html
If kind funny game devs like to trash pc gaming but yet they are going bankuprt because of consoles
http://www.edge-online.com/news/playlogic-reports-loss-of-33-million
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3174841
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/video-game-makers-seeing-red/
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090506005551&newsLang=en
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/483/the-developer-graveyard
As PC and console gaming goes, I own both but must admit that I play on Xbox360 only titles for two players like fifa, nhl, ufc... and on PC I play racing, fps and strategy games.
What i'm waiting for is a silent game console and then bye bye PC :) would get a laptop and sell my box with all gear for it (screens, controllers...)
About 10% of gaming is on consoles, 90%+ on PC.
I tend to hang back on new titles and pick them up for bargain prices later on.
Ah right. Still, Play have got it listed for £35 and i'm sure if I was to pre-order now, there's no way they can go back on that quote.
Oh by the way here is a list of pc games
http://pc.ign.com/index/release.html
http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/
It's dying in the sense that core games are being dumbed down for the console gen - sadly that's true - but there are other forms of gaming around. From what I hear, Asian countries have a much bigger PC market than console market. If western markets can learn to adapt and evolve then PC gaming will become it's own niche.
You can call consoles inferior, until you realize that the Xbox 360 came out in 2005 and the PS3/Wii in 2006. Obviously the newest and best PC gaming technology is better than the 2005/2006 variety. Do you think all of the console makers are just sitting around, counting their money? What electronics company has a product out for 4 years and hasn't begun designing a newer and better version.
Comparing the Xbox 360 to the HD 4870 is comparing apples to oranges. I can buy a brand new Xbox for $200. Or I can buy a HD 4870 for $400. Which will result in more gaming fun? Obviously the Xbox, since the only thing fun to do with the HD 4870 is to put plastic army men on it and stage a mock battle as the soldiers from Capacitor Forest wage war to Heatsink City.
To even get that investment usable, you probably need another $800 in PC components. So a top-of-the-line gaming PC is a full order of magnitude more expensive than the consoles, which is a big issue.
Yes, there's the argument "well everyone already has a PC" but most people don't already have a gaming PC. Browsing bit-tech, playing music, streaming the occasional youtube video, we could easily do that with a computer that's 4-5 years old. It's far more expensive to always have technology made in the last year or two, to be able to play the newest games at their best.
hence why the asian game market got it right. they make games for the lowest common denominator (probably a Pentium 2 MMX 440 with 64 mb ram lol) and that means everyone can play them, the games are more focused on good gameplay and they work and sell amazingly.
While I can appreciate that the whole "PC is dying" argument comes and goes, I think the really worrying thing here is that casual gaming has never been so big and easy to make money off. I don't ever see PC gaming dying (like the article said, there are way too many big players involved to see that happen), but what I do see is more and more dumbing down of PC games so that they can also come out on consoles, and I can see games like Crysis popping up with a lot less regularity.
Unfortunately, the article is right with the notion that it is all about the money. I hope I am wrong, and many studios rally forth and create truly amazing graphical advances, innovative ideas and the kind of gameplay that makes you want to shout about the game to the nearest person, but I don't really see that happening when you can make a game like Wii Sports and sell billions of copies.
I can only sympathise with developers who slog their guts out, make a good but not amazing game, and then see it get beaten ten fold by a collection of minigames. Even amazing games just don't sell well on PC (usually).
Rubbish, my 4-5 year old PC (a64) can cope with all of games i've played on it and with the 3 year old 8800gt it can display them better than a x360.
What i tend to avoid is badly ported resource hogs like GTA4.
http://downloadablesuicide.com/2009/07/16/pc-gaming-its-problems-stem-from-mistreatment/
Exactly, people miss the point, PC gaming will always be there as long as PC's are, but, when we see no PC exclusives taking advantage of the PC platform, IMO, that is basically the death of it.
WOW, what ignorance, 1 4870 is around 150, and, comparing cost to a machine that can do all a PC can, against one that only does 1 or 2 things is not fair is it? Also keep in mind, most already have a PC in the home, if you factor that in wioth the extra cost of a console, may as well upgrade said PC a little more, making it barely anymore expensive. PC gaming is NOt near as expensive as people like you make out, not at all.
Leper is right on every count, but misses the point - which is that if the majority of people have an assumption that is close to Altron's and don't bother to get corrected then it doesn't matter how right you are Leper - you're still wrong.
You can't play a PC pirated game like that, unless you use hamachi and play the 1.0v of the game which we all know sucks and still the experience is not 1/8 of an original game...
I vote STEAM! love it
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53403
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/27482/PS3-piracy-begins
http://news.softpedia.com/news/1-Billion-Dollars-Worth-Pirated-DS-Games-Were-Seized-83135.shtml
the wii ans dsi piracy must be over 2 to 3 billion by now.
the decline of pc games at retail is a reslut from gamestop and microsoft. Here is a few link more links. Basicly big bussines wants to destory pc gaming. micorsoft has already lost billions on consoles do they are trying to force pc gamers into buying consoles. EB games or Gamestop they don't make money on new games. it is why pc gamers are treated like dirt. They make their games off of the use game market.
In fact they had epic games and lionheadstrash talking pc gaming
http://kotaku.com/5058402/molyneux-says-pc-gaming-market-in-tatters
Big companies buy up all the space for their console games at retail, so pc games get pushed to the back.
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=60207
http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/07/12/has-microsoft-killed-pc-gaming-in-retail-stores-one-site-says/
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=60207
it is why pc gamers are moving to DD or online
So people may dislike what I’m about to say but I think it needs to be done the pc needs its configuration to be simpler than it is now, if people knew how much the value for money pc you could build I think the home would be a very different place than it is today.
Which proves my theory, 90% of the population are stupid and ignorant.
We don't disagree there.
torrents are a issue that could be stomped if it wasn't for the fact it works better the more people you have in the swarm.. so the crackers- in order to attract these mongloids like flies, make very simple installs, his reward is a bunch of mongloids repeating his handle across space
then you have the search engines to find these.. besides google, they make money off donations/ads- so catering to this pool of people is the breadwagon.. funny is they actually have a following of people who think they are doing it for some cause other than that paycheck.. things were alot simpler before napster did it- same with kazza.. what does your general butt wrangler use today, limewire (this program alone has kept many pc fixers in business)
it's all become a mess.. now I'm totally down with young kids pirating these expensive apps and learning- they wouldn't have access to it outside of college otherwise.. but games, unless your cracking them it's not really something you need.. wish the younger crackers would realize that today before the pc gaming market does die down any more.. racing to put out that game first for the donkeys might not be the best idea
problem is these taco poppers who are the target audience and can buy things, getting it all for free (while they are franks puppet on the botnet).. I wouldn't mind if the isp's put a stop to it- it would be so simple for them to do that- they can see everything you do.. but that's where it comes back to the money.. hardware makers love piracy- it sells the goods every year.. isp's love having customers and bandwidth has become cheap
might be down to crackers just having some willpower and holding back releases to the public on new titles.. that way if the title is good it will sell.. the only thing I can think of with any real impact given what we have today on the net- it will never happen, I just don't see any other way unless the isp's hire a bunch of clowns with patches cut out the crotch, pay a visit anyone out of control
&edit might well add to this.. drm needs to be kept in check- privacy is important, and soon as the public gets complacent you'll have some yokel devs thinking why not get all the information we need.. what worries me about steam/gfwl, there should always be backlash to spyware
I can think of one way....voice commands. with the wii remote d-pad for camera movement and if the remote was sensitive enough for drag and drop the rest could be done with voice commands. simply barking out team x defend base would be pretty cool. Guess the problem then comes with AI tho.
TBH I think PC gaming will survive. The market is sorta split into grandparents etc with the wii, casual and some hardcore gamers with the ps3 and xbox and hardcore on the PC. As the article said, there will always be some developer who will release an pc exclusive. It might be few and far between but if aimed at the hardcore gamer then the pc shouldn't have a problem. After all, it can still play ports.
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