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Quote steveo_mcg 28th May 2008, 13:53
And of course every one who complained about Starforce were tin hat wearing nutters

And what makes you think that there will be a patch to remove this sillyness? There hasn't been one for bioshock and its been out for over 9 months now why should any one have to crack there own game?
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 14:15
Companies like stardock are doing fine because there game budget is one tenth of big budget AAA games the Pc is seeing less of except ports. They don't need to sell as much to make a profit. if your Ok with Pc being relegated to indie, low budget strategy games (Al beit sins is a good one). That is an apple and oranges comparison and not relaity of the high cost of deleopment these days.
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 14:16
Because they said after awhile they will release a patch, and worst casse scanario get a crack, the very MINOR amount of people who will be installing more then 3 times can either call, e-mail or get a crack, hardly a big deal. Most people install a game once, stays on the HD until it is done, then that is it.
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 14:20
People whining because they don't want the So CALLED hassle, yet are willing to get a pirated copy, which opens their PC to possibly viruses, a buggier game, crashes..... Double Standards, all people do is look for something to cry about and exaggerate.
Quote steveo_mcg 28th May 2008, 14:30
Ahh i see your going by there untested word and believing them on blind faith they'll keep that promise, i'll wait for proof. Your are right (never thought i'd say that) people complain about the hastle of these cp systems and then go faffing around with cracks are being hypocritical.
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 14:31
How is it malicious? get real, take off the tin hat, it does nothing malicious, 99% of people will not even know it is there.
Quote steveo_mcg 28th May 2008, 14:35
Neither did starforce and 99% of people wont know its there until it breaks!
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 14:38
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Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
Neither did starforce and 99% of people wont know its there until it breaks!

This is not starforce, starforce was much worse.
Quote legoman666 28th May 2008, 14:39
So I don't see the game available for purchase from anywhere but the release date says May 6th.

Nevermind, available today.
Quote steveo_mcg 28th May 2008, 14:41
Starforce is much worse, but at the time no one believed there was a problem the people who said "i'm not installing this" for what ever reason were told to put on there tin hats and move along, much like here.
Quote Tim S 28th May 2008, 14:44
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Originally Posted by legoman666
So I don't see the game available for purchase from anywhere but the release date says May 6th.

Nevermind, available today.

I believe the game is released on June 6th in the UK. The embargo on Mass Effect PC reviews expired on May 27th.
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 14:51
Stop making crap up, Starforce's issues were well known and documented, many games use securrom without issue, Dirt most recently. Securom has matured, when Starforce came out it was in its infanct and companies droped it, no one is sropping securom, because it works.
Quote impar 28th May 2008, 15:12
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Very few people ever install a game mroe then a couple times, ...
I do.
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
... a patch is going to be released after awhile disabling the 3 install limit.
Source of that rumour?
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Who said you had to call EA? Ever hear of e-mail?
Yeah, I heard about it. If I want to install it a fourth time I would like to install it immediately, not waiting days for an answer.
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Worst case, buy the game and get a crack after, ...
So, you advice cracking the game?
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
... 99% of people will install the game and play without even noticing the DRM being there.
Until they need to install it a fourth time.
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
I have been gaming on PC since the 80s...
So have I.
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
... I think maybe once I had to install a game more the 3 times, ...
List of games I remember installing more than three times: Shogun Total War, Mongol Invasion, Rome Total War, Barbarian Invasion, Medieval2 Total War, Rollcage, Homeworld, Homeworld: Cataclysm, Homeworld2, Unreal Tournament, Quake III, Max Payne, MechWarrior 3, MechCommander, Starcraft, Medieval Total War, Viking Invasion, Panzer General, Panzer General 2, X-Com: Enemy Unknown, X-COM: Terror from the Deep, Half Life, Half Life 2, Warcraft2, Command and Conquer, Red Faction, MechWarrior4 (and all expansions).
Then, there are some I am not sure how many times I have installed, so wont post here.
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
... you upgrade every month to a new MOBO?
Not anymore. Now its more like every 6-9 months.
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Originally Posted by Tim S
I believe the game is released on June 6th in the UK.
You are correct, release dates were 28/05 for USA and 06/06 for Europe. I had the date marked in my calendar.

PS:
Q: Why are BioWare and EA implementing this new authentication process?
A: This system serves to protect our software from piracy.

Dont know what is the more suited smilie: or :)
Quote steveo_mcg 28th May 2008, 15:25
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Stop making crap up, Starforce's issues were well known and documented, many games use securrom without issue, Dirt most recently. Securom has matured, when Starforce came out it was in its infanct and companies droped it, no one is sropping securom, because it works.

You should really learn some history. Starforce problems ARE well documented it wasn't before people started having PROBLEMS. No one dropped Starforce untill it's problems were revealed AND people kicked off about them. You are a terribly naive and slightly overly agressive individual, have you ever considered counselling?
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 15:37
Securrom has been used for a long time, Starforces issues were apparent from day one, you leanr some histroy, and keep your 4 year old insults to a minimum please.
Quote steveo_mcg 28th May 2008, 15:41
Coming from you that's nearly a compliment

No the problems were not apparent from day one.... thus how people got stuck with it!

also a spell check wouldn't hurt...
Quote Lepermessiah 28th May 2008, 16:08
Yes, they were, not my problem you are un-informed. Once again, resulting in trying to sucker me into an argument with comments like a 4 year old would make. Learn the difference between typo and spelling moron. You should go back to school.
Quote Bladestorm 28th May 2008, 16:14
Yes I remember reading that they were implementing it in order to "protect legitimate customer's software" but as far as I can tell the only way it actually interacts is :

A: If you try and install it more than three times you can't, without EA's explicit aproval.
B: If someone else uses a keygen to get your cd key, you both get banned.

So how exactly is that protecting the customer's software again? sheesh.

And yes I too have a fair back category of "classic" games I re-play every so often, most notably including the X-Com series :D but also system shock 2 and so on and so forth :)
Quote steveo_mcg 28th May 2008, 16:15
Every post you've made is both agressive and poorly spelt/typed, i think you really need to install a spell check that would underline your typos makes it much easier for others to read, i presume you want others to read your posts?

To say that every one who installed starforce was uniformed is quite true a 30 second search of the web shows the reason for being uniformed, the information was not available to begin with. Who in there right mind would install software which would interfere with orderly running of there computer and potentially damage there optical drive. So i guess that saying every one who installed starforce was uniformed is actually just plain wrong.
Quote DeX 28th May 2008, 20:12
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
I'm just gutted because I've promised myself I'm going to finish The Longest Journey and Dreamfall before tackling this in my own time. The first game alone is 50+ hours long!

I thoroughly recommend you finish The Longest Journey. I haven't tried Dreamfall yet but the first game really was worth playing. And besides, at least you get to play these games for a living. We have to squeeze these huge games into our spare time! :)
Quote legoman666 28th May 2008, 20:58
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Originally Posted by DeX
I thoroughly recommend you finish The Longest Journey. I haven't tried Dreamfall yet but the first game really was worth playing. And besides, at least you get to play these games for a living. We have to squeeze these huge games into our spare time! :)

Dreamfall is one of the best games I've played since StarCraft. The ending is awesome.
Quote Woodstock 29th May 2008, 00:13
the major problem is that no form of copy protection has ever worked, and never will, there is too many people determined to strip it out it really makes no sence putting it in, bioshock was on torrent trackers, the day of release as are most other games. its a waste of money that devlopers could make better use of and a hassel for people who purchase the game, theres no way of getting around those facts
Quote tuteja1986 29th May 2008, 12:41
err i don't what you guys are going on about , but they remove the horrible copy protection... only it only checks for a CD.
Quote impar 29th May 2008, 12:53
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by tuteja1986
err i don't what you guys are going on about , but they remove the horrible copy protection... only it only checks for a CD.
Nope. Copy protection is present, DVD is not checked.

Original intention was to have the game authenticate at install, re-authenticate itself every 10 days and limit game installations to three.
EA/Bioware then announced the cancellation of the every 10 days re-authentication. Everyone was so happy about it that forgot about the limited installations (magistral marketing spin).
The game does not check for a DVD.
You will need to disable emulation software for the game to run.

For the ones buying the game, regardless of the DRM implementation, might be a good idea not to be a pioneer.
Lots of threads in Biowares official support forums with "I cant play the game":
http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewforum.html?forum=127

My favourite, so far:
http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=631416&forum=127
Quote steveo_mcg 29th May 2008, 13:22
Yup completely invisible for 99% of users... until it doesn't work.
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