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DougEdey 19th April 2008, 08:25 Quote
What does "S.P.E.C.I.A.L." stand for?
Looks good but I think I'll probably rent the game before buying since Bioshock was a let down :)
BioSniper 19th April 2008, 08:31 Quote
Loads of the imaged towards the end are also broken and getting 404's
Tim S 19th April 2008, 08:40 Quote
I've fixed the images - file extensions are different for some reason. The meaning of S.P.E.C.I.A.L. is discussed in the article.
DougEdey 19th April 2008, 08:42 Quote
But there's no I in the full name?
CardJoe 19th April 2008, 08:57 Quote
Strength
Perception
Endurance
Charisma
Intelligence
Agility
Luck
DougEdey 19th April 2008, 09:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Strength
Perception
Endurance
Charisma
Intelligence
Agility
Luck
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It stands for Strength, Perception, Endurance, Charisma, Agility and Luck

You sir, lack intelligence :p
wuyanxu 19th April 2008, 09:03 Quote
are they using Oblivion's engine?
this screenshot looks very much like a modded Oblivion's screenshot. zombie's skin effects/

speaking of graphics, the texture quality seems a bit low though
CardJoe 19th April 2008, 09:18 Quote
According to Pete Hines, it did start on the Oblivion engine, but has changed massively since then and is all redone and reoptimised. The game looks gorgeous though, with some of the best smoke effects and mushroom clouds I've ever seen.
DeX 19th April 2008, 09:58 Quote
What platforms is it being released on?
Woodstock 19th April 2008, 10:28 Quote
2nd line of article usually states which platforms, in this case PC, 360 and ps3
p3n 19th April 2008, 10:29 Quote
urgh enough of the 3d engines where wood and stone are shiny
Veles 19th April 2008, 10:29 Quote
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your workmates practically sit on thrones carved from super-expensive graphics cards

This needs to be done

DeX: PS3, 360 and PC

Shame about the lack of moral ambiguity, but I'm quite excited about this, and hooray for no levelled enemies, they killed Oblivion for me, absolutely ruined it.
-equilerex- 19th April 2008, 10:31 Quote
just a little nip picking...
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13 for example, your home in Fallout 1 would run out of water far too soon.
vault 13 was actually the control patch where everything was supposed to be perfect... unfortunately someone messed up and sent all the 13'a waterchips to vault city...
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urgh enough of the 3d engines where wood and stone are shiny
ditto... and where the hell has the orange desert-like eviroment gone? totally loved that.....

didnt really see much difference in humor between 1 and 2... not to mention that the random encounters were awesome. not going to judge the game by previews though... il decide when i get it... and also trying to keep away from spoilers ^^

as for taking inspiration from fo1... thats a bit shady... from "inside the vault" feature, it turned out that most of the guys working on it hadnt even played any of originals... only saw some who said they've played just a bit of it... and then they banned that question. meh, will be waiting to see how it will be:|
Veles 19th April 2008, 10:40 Quote
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ditto... and where the hell has the orange desert-like eviroment gone? totally loved that.....

This one's set on the east coast instead of the west coast, east coast USA isn't famed for it's deserts :p
Cobalt 19th April 2008, 11:26 Quote
I'm going to have to agree with equilerex here. How are they even going to base this on the original if most of the team haven't played it? Until I see evidence to the contrary, this still is Fallout in name only.
speedfreek 19th April 2008, 11:30 Quote
Providing they can stay away from all that made oblivion crappy based on what I read they will still be short of what it should be. The random encounters with the most random things, the subtle references, and the turn based system that drove me nuts but still made the game fun. Half the fun of that game was how it made running around in a wasteland so much fun with the interesting dialog and what not. If Oblivion represented what Bethesda can make for dialog then this game will be repetitive and dry.

I still want to play it since I want some new fallout action. Here is to hoping it inst as screwed up as they can make it.:(
Krikkit 19th April 2008, 12:09 Quote
This looks like an awesome game, but as said above, everything's too shiny. Less of that please.

That ruined FEAR for me...
Veles 19th April 2008, 12:48 Quote
I don't agree, you don't need to play Fallout for very long to get a good idea of what the game is like, and so long as the leaders of the team are very familiar with the game they can make sure it stays true to the originals.
Kipman725 19th April 2008, 13:30 Quote
Erm.. I though brethsda would be all for lack of clear morals after all morrowind allows you to be as imoral or as moral as you like. Also they should include monty python referances, little bits of humor are what make games fun.
Zurechial 19th April 2008, 13:32 Quote
Joe's enthusiasm is definitely inspiring, but I'm still dubious.
I don't normally like 'funny' games, I like things to be decidedly serious, but sometimes games can be funny and even break the 4th wall without ruining things for me. There are 2 games that really achieved this for me, Fallout 2 and Planescape Torment.
Without the humour of Fallout 2, I think much of the 'Fallout feeling' will be lost in Fallout 3.

Honestly, this preview pretty much confirms what I've suspected all along about F3, that it'll be a good game in its own right, but just 'not enough', much the same as BioShock was to System Shock 2 for me - a disappointing spinoff.

Hardcore fans of an original series tend to expect far, far too much from sequels (or 'spiritual successors' for those who've lost the rights to their own games) and I'm as guilty of this as any series-fanboy, but I think it's fair enough for me to state that Fallout 3 will simply not be in the same league as Fallout 1 or 2, and strays far enough from the originals to be considered another spinoff, rather than a true sequel (as F2 was to F1).

I don't think it'll be a bad game, I have faith that it'll be a great game and not another Brotherhood of Steel-alike, and I'll likely even buy it on release, but I suspect I'll have to constantly remind myself to not expect Fallout 2 in a 3D engine.. and that's disappointing.
The fact that I'll still buy the game on release just goes to show the deficit in absolutely classic games these days - If there were other games of this sort out there for me to partake in I'd probably spend my money on something else and 'passively boycott' Fallout 3 in a sort of mild protest, but it's all we've got right now, and all we're likely to get in this niche for a while more..

I just hope Bethesda had enough of their voice-acting budget left-over after hiring Mr. Neeson to hire more than just 3 or 4 NPC-actors per gender this time.. the repetitive voicing in Oblivion grates on my nerves to a point of immersion-killing frustration.
chrisb2e9 19th April 2008, 14:25 Quote
I'm starting to look forward to it now. It sounds to me like it is going to be made the way it should be.
Veles 19th April 2008, 14:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kipman725
Erm.. I though brethsda would be all for lack of clear morals after all morrowind allows you to be as imoral or as moral as you like. Also they should include monty python referances, little bits of humor are what make games fun.

I think the point Joe is making is that enemies are always your enemy in FO3, you can still be a *******, so it's not quite as bad as it first sounds.
UncertainGod 19th April 2008, 14:47 Quote
I'd really like to believe in this, but I'm just not sold yet.
Nature 19th April 2008, 15:02 Quote
goose? I think good ole joe will be let down, RPG's suck more and more as we get older. I still have an origional isea for a game if someone wants to work on it together.
Veles 19th April 2008, 15:49 Quote
Woops
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