@ Joe: Excellent review, no dout about that. An idea for you regarding to what you said:
".....This is something which is quite hard to screenshot consistently unless youâve got the reflexes of a cat, so, although Iâve done my best, you may have to take these screenshots with a small pinch of salt......"
FRAPS, screenshot settings to 1 per second, hit the button and fire. Don't forget to press it again when you are done, otherwise you find a couple of hundred screenshots in the FRAPS folder after a a few minutes :-D.
@ mrb no1: I don't want to call you a liar, but for I have read in many reviews, it looks like you are the first person who is able to play it with those specs and that surprises me, particularly with that video card. (H)ardOCP tried with extreme core and the HD3870 which is quite a bit faster then yours and they...well....it's a bit different from what you are reporting: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxOSw0LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
But hey...my experiences with hardware are sometimes different to the reviewers as well, so no offense.
Originally Posted by Redbeaver 3.54mhz conroe and u can play it full settings??? thats it, my Q6600 will eat this game for breakfast. twice.
ok im jk :)
but what do u mean by "full settings"? what resolution are u running it on? full settings with 8xAA and 16xAF at 800x600 resolution isnt really THAT great :p
just wanna kno what my Q6600@3.2Ghz + 8800GTS 640 is capable of..... Vista Ultimate btw :)
Well, what I can tell you from my experiences with the demo is that you can run it around 20-30 FPS average on my system at 1280 with high details. Not that it would go any higher than 40 in any scene or environment. Then again I read Crysis is not that much of a CPU-related game so your quad core might give you 2-5 fps more. Which actually is quite a lot given the low FPS we're talking about here.
Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666 Then again I read Crysis is not that much of a CPU-related game so your quad core might give you 2-5 fps more. Which actually is quite a lot given the low FPS we're talking about here
Did you not read in the review how the physics is run off the CPU?
I play most games on my TV now. Because of the lower res (1360 x 768) I can usually play games on much higher settings than the game recommends for my system. With the crysis demo I was able to stick everything on Very High apart from post processing which I set to medium. On a TV you don't need to bother with the anti aliasing either. I get a pretty solid 30 - 40 FPS with lows of around 25 (sounds like a weather report :p). I've got a Q6600, 8800 GT, 4GB of Ram (on 32 bit vista though so it only shows 3.2GB :()
It is an awesome looking game. I remember playing Far Cry and thinking there is no way graphics can get much better than this. In 5 years time I'll be looking back at Crysis, annoyed that my neural interface isn't compatible with it and that I have to use a keyboard and mouse but enjoying another instalment from crytek with once again revolutionary graphics and barely any storyline.
I registered to try and ask him to make sense of this comment:-
"Is Crysis revolutionary? Kind of. Is it a game of the year contender for me? Unfortunately not. Any other year, definitely yes, but this year there has some stiff competition and games like BioShock and Episode Two have to take precedence in my eyes."
Bioshock, ok, I can understand because even though the undersea aspect was completely wasted and it ended up just being a small room based FPS it did have the SystemShock reworkings, a very good background plot and excellent audio content. However how can it be claimed HL2Ep2 is up there when it was just one long interactive cut scene?
It was just one long series of the woman telling you to do things. I get that at home, I use my computer to escape from that.
"Go press that lever Gordon"
"See if you can find your way around this gate Gordon"
"We need someone to get the ABC from XYZ Gordon"
"Can you get my tampons Gordon, there's a luv".
Any sort of actual decision making by the player? No, none whatsoever. Going through the motions springs to mind. I could do 1 thing only before going onto the next thing. If I want to watch something so planned out and linear I'd buy a movie and eat popcorn while watching someone else do it.
It wouldn't have been so bad if the graphics had been great, but it seemed to be the same old 2D source engine a la HL2 but with a bit of HDR thrown in. So flat and square, COD4 really knocks it into a cocked hat even without considering Crysis. In fact, for realistic lighting and "being there" COD4 might even have Crysis licked, though the detail is nowhere near as good.
OK I have said my piece, HL2 has to be the biggest let down of 2007. Same old stuff as Epsisode 1.
Portal of course is brilliant, from the first puzzle to the last song. Shame they did not put the money into that from Ep2 ! :D
just asking, anyone getting slowdowns when in icy environment?
you know near the end of the 3rd level, there is a cut scene, and then you are in an iced room. im getting ~ 8 FPS in that room, but as soon as i walked out of the roon, im getting the usual 20 - 25 even during combat.
just wondering does other people get that?
settings: 1440x900 (non native :( ), no FSAA, r_edge_aa = 2, most on VeryHigh except Shadows and Object detail and sound (integrated AC HD) which are on High. latest 169.09 beta drivers.
got the game this morning and haven't stopped grinning since. Part of the reason is the sheer wow factor of the game's graphics, another part is that i got a 8800gtx for £200 to play it on, and the final part is having a 24" monitor and 5.1. Its playing miles better than i thought it would, most stuff on high, but shaders and particles on ultra and physics &shadows on medium.
p.s did anyone else start crying when they saw the waterfalls?
p.p.s yeah, everytime i come across ice it slows down a bit
To be honest I thought HL episode 2 was totally awesome. Yes there was pretty much only way to go, but the story was interesting and I thought the combat was excellent fun.
I don't get how a game can get a 9 out of 10 if the game play is so ordinary. Isn't the gameplay what makes a game fun or not ? I know it is for me, but I guess I am different.. (?)
I read it through!! great article and confirmed most of the stuff I had on the top of my head after playing the first 3-4 levels. john or jack or bill or tom, pointed out that the game was too easy most of the time, with the nano suit and all, but he also states that the player can controll the gun mounted on the vehicle while driving it right? isn't that only possible on the easier difficulties? like normal and easy? i play on hard and i must change position to shoot from a car.
by the way, i think you all are getting very lousy performance, spite having better hw, like the guy with teh 8800 ultra. Myself have a q6600, 2gb ram and 8800gts 320. i play with 1680x1050 on mostly medium and the important stuff on high, and i get around 50fps, late 30's in combat. the newest driver from nvidia is out and is crysis-optimized, so i think maybee the review was made a while ago with the beta driver or something. btw2 i average 12300 3dmark points. even still i am considering waiting to complete the game untill i can crank up on max. feels wrong having stuff like clouds off.
Originally Posted by Ghys I don't get how a game can get a 9 out of 10 if the game play is so ordinary.
Bit-Tech explained its gaming score method in the Bioshock review thread [1][2]. They gave Bioshock a 10 without noticing the mouse issues the PC version has. Am still in Fort Frolic waiting for a patch to fix the problem.
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Originally Posted by stoff3r john or jack or bill or tom, pointed out that the game was too easy most of the time, with the nano suit and all, but he also states that the player can controll the gun mounted on the vehicle while driving it right? isn't that only possible on the easier difficulties?
Only at Easy difficulty level. At Normal you must change positions with the humvee-like vehicle.
Originally Posted by impar They gave Bioshock a 10 without noticing the mouse issues the PC version has. Am still in Fort Frolic waiting for a patch to fix the problem.
What mouse issues are you referring to? I've completed the game twice on the PC and I don't remember encountering any mouse issues.
@cyrus7b, "@mrbno1, I don't want to call you a liar".....feeel free. I made a mistake when i went back to check for another member, all settings were on high, not ultra high so my bad, but still, if you were thinking of buying the game and have a similar rig to me, then do it, the game runs lovely on it with x8aa and high settings in a fairly decent widescreen resolution. I brought my pc round a mates last night as he wanted to see what the game was like and we played it on his 40" samsung hdtv and it looks good there too....much easier to kill enemies too as they are alot bigger on his tele than my 20.1inch dell :P
Interesting... I seem to remember having some crazy encounters with the mouse, but nothing that I felt really broke the game. I don't tend to play FPS games on very low or very high sensitivities though - I'm usually somewhere in the middle. I move the mouse, but I'm neither a twitch gamer or an arm gamer (i.e. moving the mouse 30cm for a full turn like the OP in that thread). I'd say a full turn for me is probably 10-15cm. :)
well had a bash at crysis this moring for an hour or so no crashes smooth as anything looks so good got killed a few times as i was taking in the view can run on very high on my system ( Q6600, 8800 ultra, 4gig ram, stock speeds ) I have to say the boys over at crytek have done a really good job.
[bioshockofftopic]
The problem for me is the acceleration. If am just wandering around inspecting the enviroment making no sudden mouse moves its ok. When I meet a Big Daddy, though, a 45º move turns out to be a 50-55º move, so I need to compensate with another move, that also needs to be compensated, etc.
Its playable but not perfect and it makes my hand/wrist hurt. The only game that accomplishes that.
You just cant get into the games atmosphere if only manage to play 15-20 minutes at a time.
[/bioshockofftopic]
Originally Posted by impar Greetings!Bit-Tech explained its gaming score method in the Bioshock review thread [1][2]. They gave Bioshock a 10 without noticing the mouse issues the PC version has. Am still in Fort Frolic waiting for a patch to fix the problem.
Only at Easy difficulty level. At Normal you must change positions with the humvee-like vehicle.
I can understand that a bug does not affect a final score but what about when the gameplay overall is average to poor ? Maybe I should re-read the article ;)
Unplayable on my system at 1680x1050 on medium settings. Runs great on 1360x768 medium though. That's running 64bit Vista ultimate and the latest beta nvidia drivers.
one problem with all these posts are that every one is stating that they play on med, high, very high but never mention the resolution their playing at which is by far the most important because very high on a 800x600 looks like crap where as the higher the res the beter the game looks even on med med high. also everyone talks about playability on there settings where some think 20 fps is ok where others say 30 +. What does everyone think should res be included in what settings they are playing at because when people say I can play at every thing high with a 8600 GT sounds stupid ya so can i and get 90+ fps but at low res and it looks bad
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Reply".....This is something which is quite hard to screenshot consistently unless youâve got the reflexes of a cat, so, although Iâve done my best, you may have to take these screenshots with a small pinch of salt......"
FRAPS, screenshot settings to 1 per second, hit the button and fire. Don't forget to press it again when you are done, otherwise you find a couple of hundred screenshots in the FRAPS folder after a a few minutes :-D.
@ mrb no1: I don't want to call you a liar, but for I have read in many reviews, it looks like you are the first person who is able to play it with those specs and that surprises me, particularly with that video card. (H)ardOCP tried with extreme core and the HD3870 which is quite a bit faster then yours and they...well....it's a bit different from what you are reporting: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxOSw0LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
But hey...my experiences with hardware are sometimes different to the reviewers as well, so no offense.
Regards
Bernhard
Well, what I can tell you from my experiences with the demo is that you can run it around 20-30 FPS average on my system at 1280 with high details. Not that it would go any higher than 40 in any scene or environment. Then again I read Crysis is not that much of a CPU-related game so your quad core might give you 2-5 fps more. Which actually is quite a lot given the low FPS we're talking about here.
Did you not read in the review how the physics is run off the CPU?
It is an awesome looking game. I remember playing Far Cry and thinking there is no way graphics can get much better than this. In 5 years time I'll be looking back at Crysis, annoyed that my neural interface isn't compatible with it and that I have to use a keyboard and mouse but enjoying another instalment from crytek with once again revolutionary graphics and barely any storyline.
"Is Crysis revolutionary? Kind of. Is it a game of the year contender for me? Unfortunately not. Any other year, definitely yes, but this year there has some stiff competition and games like BioShock and Episode Two have to take precedence in my eyes."
Bioshock, ok, I can understand because even though the undersea aspect was completely wasted and it ended up just being a small room based FPS it did have the SystemShock reworkings, a very good background plot and excellent audio content. However how can it be claimed HL2Ep2 is up there when it was just one long interactive cut scene?
It was just one long series of the woman telling you to do things. I get that at home, I use my computer to escape from that.
"Go press that lever Gordon"
"See if you can find your way around this gate Gordon"
"We need someone to get the ABC from XYZ Gordon"
"Can you get my tampons Gordon, there's a luv".
Any sort of actual decision making by the player? No, none whatsoever. Going through the motions springs to mind. I could do 1 thing only before going onto the next thing. If I want to watch something so planned out and linear I'd buy a movie and eat popcorn while watching someone else do it.
It wouldn't have been so bad if the graphics had been great, but it seemed to be the same old 2D source engine a la HL2 but with a bit of HDR thrown in. So flat and square, COD4 really knocks it into a cocked hat even without considering Crysis. In fact, for realistic lighting and "being there" COD4 might even have Crysis licked, though the detail is nowhere near as good.
OK I have said my piece, HL2 has to be the biggest let down of 2007. Same old stuff as Epsisode 1.
Portal of course is brilliant, from the first puzzle to the last song. Shame they did not put the money into that from Ep2 ! :D
you know near the end of the 3rd level, there is a cut scene, and then you are in an iced room. im getting ~ 8 FPS in that room, but as soon as i walked out of the roon, im getting the usual 20 - 25 even during combat.
just wondering does other people get that?
settings: 1440x900 (non native :( ), no FSAA, r_edge_aa = 2, most on VeryHigh except Shadows and Object detail and sound (integrated AC HD) which are on High. latest 169.09 beta drivers.
p.s did anyone else start crying when they saw the waterfalls?
p.p.s yeah, everytime i come across ice it slows down a bit
To be honest I thought HL episode 2 was totally awesome. Yes there was pretty much only way to go, but the story was interesting and I thought the combat was excellent fun.
by the way, i think you all are getting very lousy performance, spite having better hw, like the guy with teh 8800 ultra. Myself have a q6600, 2gb ram and 8800gts 320. i play with 1680x1050 on mostly medium and the important stuff on high, and i get around 50fps, late 30's in combat. the newest driver from nvidia is out and is crysis-optimized, so i think maybee the review was made a while ago with the beta driver or something. btw2 i average 12300 3dmark points. even still i am considering waiting to complete the game untill i can crank up on max. feels wrong having stuff like clouds off.
All settings on high and texture detail on very high on my rig, no aa.
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7697
peace
Interesting... I seem to remember having some crazy encounters with the mouse, but nothing that I felt really broke the game. I don't tend to play FPS games on very low or very high sensitivities though - I'm usually somewhere in the middle. I move the mouse, but I'm neither a twitch gamer or an arm gamer (i.e. moving the mouse 30cm for a full turn like the OP in that thread). I'd say a full turn for me is probably 10-15cm. :)
[bioshockofftopic]
The problem for me is the acceleration. If am just wandering around inspecting the enviroment making no sudden mouse moves its ok. When I meet a Big Daddy, though, a 45º move turns out to be a 50-55º move, so I need to compensate with another move, that also needs to be compensated, etc.
Its playable but not perfect and it makes my hand/wrist hurt. The only game that accomplishes that.
You just cant get into the games atmosphere if only manage to play 15-20 minutes at a time.
[/bioshockofftopic]
The games ok carries along alright etc although is repetative but passes time so I can live with it
I can understand that a bug does not affect a final score but what about when the gameplay overall is average to poor ? Maybe I should re-read the article ;)
Never normally shop there for games, but these prices are cheaper than play.com
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