Originally Posted by K Yeah like that's gonna be something that wouldn't be fixed by some piratey hackers anyways. I wouldn't worry about something like that.
Well one might wonder why one should bother paying the developers and publishers money when they're doing such a reprehensible thing as this. 2 activations just takes the piss. We all know that some cracking group is going to release a totaly fixed copy some day very soon, so copy protection is largely unnecessary.
2K are just asking PC users to pirate it here imo.
Originally Posted by specofdust Well one might wonder why one should bother paying the developers and publishers money when they're doing such a reprehensible thing as this. 2 activations just takes the piss. We all know that some cracking group is going to release a totaly fixed copy some day very soon, so copy protection is largely unnecessary.
2K are just asking PC users to pirate it here imo.
quoted for mother****ing truth
just cancelled my pre-order
no AA = mildly annoying, but i probably would've had to drop detail/res to put aa on anyway
widescreen issue = silly, shouldn't have even been an issue, but doesnt affect me, forgiveable
this bullshit? = get. the. ****. out.
edit: i will take it all back and replace my order if it turns out to be bs/over-reaction, but considering a 2k employee responded i dont hold out much hope...
i was going to pre-order
Glad i read this forum, enjoy yet another lost sale 2K
If you have to crack it to install more then twice, you may as well just pirate the whole damn thing, I'm not giving support when i have to do something questionable just to play my completely legal copy
And on that note, virtual discs should be allowed too, i don't know about you, but i don't want to destroy my originals
If you abide by the EULA and TOS then you have no problems, I understand if your HDD fails and you've got a problem reinstalling you'd need to contact securom but honestly, you'd already be talking to Microsoft for the same reason!!!
This bullshit over the FOV (OMG i'm missing 1/2" of screen, NOOOOOOOO) and activation (OMFG I can't break the rules and steal somebody's IP, those damn money grubbers!!!) is rediculous. If a game sucks and/or is bugged all to hell i can see the reason why you wouldn't want to buy it/return it. but for petty issues like this? come on guys, seriously, welcome to the 21st century and grow up. :(
Yes but people have already contacted SecuROM about the issue and no, they don't let you call them and get a key. They send you a generic email saying "Hi there, contact 2k".
As pointed out in the linked thread, clearly if people using the game "as you normally do" are noticing this issue. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many pissed off customers out there.
Hello all. I plan to install this game on a new MacBook Pro (128MB 8600M) using bootcamp with Windows Vista. I know about the widescreen issue, which I can deal with. The activation limit may be a problem. Are there any other issues I should know about? And my preliminary opinion (after playing the demo on my desktop), this game blows HL2 out of the water.
Originally Posted by steveo_mcg I'll post this here for a larger audience if no one objects
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Originally Posted by DougEdey No, the issue has been responded to.
Basically this is what happens when you use securom.
Install Game -> Securom checks server -> Server says 0 have been installed -> Securom marks game as installed -> Servers record it as #1
Install game -> Securom checks server -> Server says 1 have been installed -> Securom marks game as installed -> Servers record it as #2
Install Game -> Securom checks server -> Server says 2 have been installed -> No more installs
Uninstall Game #1 -> Securom checks server -> Server says 2 have been installed -> Securom marks game as uninstalled -> Server goes to #1
Install on 3rd PC -> Securom checks server -> Server says 1 have been installed -> Securom marks game as installed -> Server records 2 installs
Basically it's 2 concurrent installs, you MUST uninstall the game before reformatting or upgrading hardware
Originally Posted by steveo_mcg The important part though is that securom are to take responsibility for making sure you can get another key if something goes wrong, no?
And thus far all they've done is referred people onwards to 2K.
So I jsut wanted to post my reactions to this game. I played it for about 5-6 hours last night and it's the best game I have played in a long long time. I didn't read about the activation stuff until now, but I have to say it would be a crazy waste to not play this game over that. Also some other problems I have heard people talking about(poor textures and such) I haven't noticed. All of the textures have looked good so far, maybe they didn't install the new drivers or something. Also I have been running it with everything maxed except for global lighting at 1920x1080 and its running well. I played it this long without receiving any gamebreaking stuttering or slowdown, or even enough to ruin my enjoyment of the game. This is on a C2D at 3.25GHz with 2Gb ram and a x1900xtx.
the issue i have with this is that it does zip, zero, nadda, nothing to stop piracy, all it does is piss off people who paid for it
i do not want to be pissed off, so im not paying for it
ill reconsider if/when they release a patch that removes securom (this isnt unprecedented btw, off the top of my head i believe supcom and quake4 both had patches released that removed copy protection, i own both these games :p)
Originally Posted by M_D_K Bioshock has nothing that grips me or makes me want to play it, yeah it has a story line and it has good gfx but still has nothing to make me want to play it.
So if a great storyline and good gfx doesn't float your boat, what does?
Mutter. This really is absolutely laughable - a prime example of rules only clobbering people who follow the rules. Anyone who chooses to no-cd the damn thing, or whatever patch it would take, will skirt this entirely.
The only function this sort of thing can ever have, by definition, is to inconvenience the honest.
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Must be the console. I've seen and played it on three seperate 360s and I've never had any stuttering. Clean your disk drives and come back to me.
Still, nice to see that Hugo's been working hard, only took him 3 hours you know...:(
sigh....
stupid PS3
Well one might wonder why one should bother paying the developers and publishers money when they're doing such a reprehensible thing as this. 2 activations just takes the piss. We all know that some cracking group is going to release a totaly fixed copy some day very soon, so copy protection is largely unnecessary.
2K are just asking PC users to pirate it here imo.
just cancelled my pre-order
no AA = mildly annoying, but i probably would've had to drop detail/res to put aa on anyway
widescreen issue = silly, shouldn't have even been an issue, but doesnt affect me, forgiveable
this bullshit? = get. the. ****. out.
edit: i will take it all back and replace my order if it turns out to be bs/over-reaction, but considering a 2k employee responded i dont hold out much hope...
Glad i read this forum, enjoy yet another lost sale 2K
If you have to crack it to install more then twice, you may as well just pirate the whole damn thing, I'm not giving support when i have to do something questionable just to play my completely legal copy
And on that note, virtual discs should be allowed too, i don't know about you, but i don't want to destroy my originals
Official answer to the activation issue:
second, you can uninstall and reinstall this game, and if, by chance, you have 2 computers you want to simultaneously play this game on, you also can do that.
if by some chance you are reinstalling this game without uninstalling it first, a lot, there is a chance you may have to call securom and get a key, or deactivate some older installations.
but if you upgrade your hardware next week, you'll still be able to play the game. if you revamp your system and need to reinstall bioshock, just uninstall it before you go through the overhaul, and then do your reinstall.
calling it "hardware fingerprinting" is a bit alarmist. we do not transmit any of your data to any companies.
really, the only people who will be concerned about any of these security measures are those who are rapidly putting bioshock on many pcs... if you use the game as you normally do, you won't notice this at all.
I am not geting the game.
Oh My God.
If you abide by the EULA and TOS then you have no problems, I understand if your HDD fails and you've got a problem reinstalling you'd need to contact securom but honestly, you'd already be talking to Microsoft for the same reason!!!
This bullshit over the FOV (OMG i'm missing 1/2" of screen, NOOOOOOOO) and activation (OMFG I can't break the rules and steal somebody's IP, those damn money grubbers!!!) is rediculous. If a game sucks and/or is bugged all to hell i can see the reason why you wouldn't want to buy it/return it. but for petty issues like this? come on guys, seriously, welcome to the 21st century and grow up. :(
As pointed out in the linked thread, clearly if people using the game "as you normally do" are noticing this issue. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many pissed off customers out there.
AA issue? Solved.
Wide screen issue? Dont care.
Activation issue? Deal breaker.
:(
And thus far all they've done is referred people onwards to 2K.
I am however only passing on info from another forum which others may not bother to read. :(
the issue i have with this is that it does zip, zero, nadda, nothing to stop piracy, all it does is piss off people who paid for it
i do not want to be pissed off, so im not paying for it
ill reconsider if/when they release a patch that removes securom (this isnt unprecedented btw, off the top of my head i believe supcom and quake4 both had patches released that removed copy protection, i own both these games :p)
Bioshock, available from all good torrent sites and some crap ones right now....... lol :p
Mines coming in the post tomorrow from Play.com, I cant wait I might not sleep tonight dispite all this crap with activation and stuff :D
So if a great storyline and good gfx doesn't float your boat, what does?
The only function this sort of thing can ever have, by definition, is to inconvenience the honest.
Phil
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