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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

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stephen2002 31st March 2006, 15:17 Quote
Great review espeically the graphics testing. It's amazing how detailed the game is and it's amazing the variety of settings that they let you mess around with, and apparently there is an .ini file in there that lets you really customise how things are drawn in the game.
Ramble 31st March 2006, 15:28 Quote
Sounds like a game that eats toasted silicon for lunch.
bloodcar 31st March 2006, 15:34 Quote
I picked this game up for my 360 a couple days ago after reading on and on in our console gaming forum about it and I must say.... I absolutely love this game. This is coming from someone who normally doesn't care for RPGs and has never played an Elder Scroll game before at all.

What actually drew me into the game was being able to pickpocket every single character in the game and being able to break into every house/store and rob them blind. I've been so naughty though that out of 135 game days that have passed (IIRC that's how many have passed), I've spent 88 of those days in jail. I started killing gaurds in the Imperial City and had a bounty on my head of 7000 gold coins and gave up and let them take me to jail instead of paying it off. I love being able to walk back into the jail and steal all the stolen goods back that they confiscated off of me during the arrest.

One thing about the game that I can't seem to do is actually read the damned books instead of quickly flipping through the pages to get the "book read." I mean, heck, some of these books are 80+ pages with several volumes in them! At 240 books read....that's alot of time I would have spent just reading books. Albeit after I finish the main quest my goal is to go back and read all of the books and fill my houses to the brim with nice wares and do all of the side quests and such.

I find myself anticipating 4:30PM to roll around every day so I can get home and get back to playing. I've lost out on so much sleep the past few days because of this game that it's rediculous....but yet it's awesome. I've haven't had a game draw me this much into obsession for a very long time.

A note to anyone who picks up this game for either the 360 or for their computer.... prepare to not sleep much and become obsessed with finishing little quests and such. Also, try and make your way west to one of the little castles that's on the coast (can't think of it's name off the top of my head) and check out the view across the sea. It's friggen beautiful!
whisperwolf 31st March 2006, 16:06 Quote
whats the graphics compare like rom the xbox to the the high end PC's. Trying to work out if I'll be better of buying the xbox, or spending silly money upgrading my whole PC, cause at the moment I have a feeling it will destroy my current machine.
bloodcar 31st March 2006, 16:07 Quote
Well, YOu get AA andHDR on the 360 where you only get one or the other on the PC.
dire_wolf 31st March 2006, 16:20 Quote
I got the PC collectors version, just for the map editor and player mods, it's a touch more tweakable aswell and runs like a dream on my system :)

Oh, and you geta funky little septim coin and a little book with the collectors version
whisperwolf 31st March 2006, 16:25 Quote
I tried to get that but was let down by the vendor, and now nowhere has the PC collectors edition in stock as far as I can see. Going to take it as a a sign that my PC would not have coped and that I should hold off for a while
Ab$olut 31st March 2006, 16:34 Quote
Alot of people have been having issues with this game even with fx60s etc I think a patch would get them frames up...

Although it looks like a fun game should be getting it once I have my x2 + 7900gt :D
Garside 31st March 2006, 16:39 Quote
I have been managing okay with the game and I have a 9800 Radeon Pro, 2100+ Thunderbird and 1 gb of RAM (2700). A lot of people are saying that you need the best computer in the world to enjoy this title - its simply not true!


However, if I have more than one enemy on screen I have to stick the difficulty setting right down to get past them - it jerks far too much.
The_Pope 31st March 2006, 16:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by whisperwolf
whats the graphics compare like rom the xbox to the the high end PC's. Trying to work out if I'll be better of buying the xbox, or spending silly money upgrading my whole PC, cause at the moment I have a feeling it will destroy my current machine.

I don't know, personally, though it's a fair question. Ask yourself what you would do with either a super-fast PC or an Xbox 360 *after* you've finished playing ES4... Also, keyboard & mouse + desk vs wireless controller + sofa?
Cobalt 31st March 2006, 16:59 Quote
I agree with garside. I'm running a 3200 OCed to 2.4GHz 1 GB of RAM and a stock 9800pro. 1024 with medium detail (distant land off though) and i get a average of around 36fps which is quite sufficient for me. I have tweaked windows and oblivion extensivly though so I'm probably in a best case scenario.

My friend however... well thats a different story. He thought hed be alright with 512mb of RAM and a PCI FX5200. When he found out he couldn't run it he was devestated. So he orders an extra 1GB of RAM only to find out (as I had said all along) it did nothing to improve the performance. I told him he wouldn't be able to get a PCI gfx card to run this game and now he wants a new mobo + an AGP card. Problem is he knows little about so he asks me to spec him something cheap. A quick search around gets him a suitable upgrade for £120 but his mum doesn't trust me and they had a big falling out over the whole deal.

Well back to my level four wood elf bow master (custom class which I couldn't think of a decent name for)
chemo 31st March 2006, 16:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ramble
Sounds like a game that eats toasted silicon for lunch.

i agree, it looks like its making what i thought to be high quality gear look pretty poor :(
EK-MDi 31st March 2006, 17:15 Quote
Wow! That just goes to show what a performer the Xbox 360 can be, which plays the game at maximum detail, in HD resolutions, with very very rare lag occurences, unlike a PC with an Nvidia 7900GTX and FX-60, which has trouble doing so.
Shadowed_fury 31st March 2006, 17:24 Quote
Quite glad i've left this purchase out till I upgrade. Phew, thats intense!
Firehed 31st March 2006, 18:26 Quote
I don't suppose anyone has a clue as to how a 7900GT would hold up against 1920x1200 with the right detail settings... I've got my 6800GT going at 1184x840 (or whatever it is) which is playable by all means but not stunning.
I want to get back to playing, though, at any res right now. Stupid school projects...
Da Dego 31st March 2006, 19:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Firehed
I don't suppose anyone has a clue as to how a 7900GT would hold up against 1920x1200 with the right detail settings... I've got my 6800GT going at 1184x840 (or whatever it is) which is playable by all means but not stunning.
I want to get back to playing, though, at any res right now. Stupid school projects...
Define 'right detail settings...' :) FWIW, two 7900gtx cards in SLI just barely kept up at 1900x1200, all settings max. BARELY.
Tim S 31st March 2006, 19:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
Define 'right detail settings...' :) FWIW, two 7900gtx cards in SLI just barely kept up at 1900x1200, all settings max. BARELY.
Around 30fps average through our test section, IIRC. :)
specofdust 31st March 2006, 19:45 Quote
30 sounds nice, indeed I played FEAR through with an FPS of 30, but that was only because it was a fairly stable 30, it didn't venture down to 10 or 15FPS every 30 seconds. Minimum FPS is very important, but also the stability of an FPS is important, when cutting it as close as 30.
r3Q 31st March 2006, 20:23 Quote
well. im about level 16 and i have ~45 hours in already.

the game is just so incredibly fun to play, even with terrible frames. ive got a mid-range setup - (see sig), and it really does chug along sometimes on the outdoor scenes.

here is a site with some console\ini tweaks to get it running a lil better :)

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=66785

i espically liked this one ;
http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=283055
DougEdey 31st March 2006, 20:35 Quote
Superb game this, received it 1 hour after I read the review! On 4 hours at the mo. Doubt I;ll be sleeping tonite.

Runs fine on my X800XT, only get some slowdown when I come out of dungeons/forts/etc... the pop up draw distance is annoying though.

Very jealous of my mate who went 3800+ X2 and X1900XT just to play this game :'(
Firehed 31st March 2006, 20:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
Define 'right detail settings...' :) FWIW, two 7900gtx cards in SLI just barely kept up at 1900x1200, all settings max. BARELY.
Right meaning "if I get them set correctly, it's playable at that resolution". The higher the better, naturally, but I'm the type that would often sacrifice detail for resolution. I suppose I could set it to run on DISPLAY2 at 1680x1050 which would be much more doable. So, if I were to get a 7900GT to my 24", are there any settings I could use which would make it playable at 1920? Given the option, would I be better off upping detail to downgrade to 1680 given that I could either scale it fairly well (and in fact, the slight loss of crispness almosts acts as AA, but, well, no) or use it on a panel with that res or black-bar it.

The good news is that as an RPG, framerates aren't anywhere near as critical as in an FPS, which is my typical genre. Above 30 constantly is what I'd aim for, of course, but it dropping low for a few seconds doesn't tend to mean the difference between delivering or receiving a headshot.

I'm going to give it a spin set to 1680 with my 6800gt just to see how it scales and what framerates are looking like. The 24" 1920 has 30% more pixels to draw, but the display handles non-native resolutions pretty well, and I definately want something widescreen.
dire_wolf 31st March 2006, 22:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by whisperwolf
I tried to get that but was let down by the vendor, and now nowhere has the PC collectors edition in stock as far as I can see. Going to take it as a a sign that my PC would not have coped and that I should hold off for a while

That's why I had it on pre-order at play.com for about 6 months :D
r3Q 31st March 2006, 23:07 Quote
i just did alot of the INI tweaks on the page(s) i posted, and i gained about 10fps outside, and damn near 30 indoors - and before i was NOT running HDR.

i did the thinning grass, coolbits tweak (for geforce6xxx), and a few minor ones. wow - its SO much eaiser to play this game. i just spent the last hour with godemode on killing everyone in the imperal city :)
EvilRusk 1st April 2006, 00:47 Quote
This game is awesome. I did some tweaks with the bloom and I'm finding it better than HDR since I can have AA on.

Well I got a A64 3200, 2Gb ram a 7800GT and an audigy2 and my pc is about to catch fire. The thing that really disappoints me is that the game doesn't really take advantage of the amount of ram I have at all. If I turn around in a big outdoors space I get skipping whilst textures are swapped since the game seems to limit itself to the 256mb texture memory on the card, completely ignoring the spare system ram I have (according to Vidmemwatch). Framerate is criminal but I just can't bring myself to turn down those details lol!
Mister_Tad 1st April 2006, 08:26 Quote
after a bit of tweaking I managed to get it to run at 1280x1024, HDR, max view distance, half grass distance and max everything-else distance, no grass shadows or self shadows, max water details and large textures at a very playable fps on an overclocked 7800GT (including the ini tweaks to increase the distant texture quality and to get the water to reflect everything) so its definitely worth having a fiddle around to get the best out of it.

Saved me £350 anyway :D

one thing that I've not noticed, is the loading times I've heard people complain about. I never get a pause when the loading box pops on screen outside (ie when going between 'cells') and the loading screen when going from inside to outside, or to a different area inside, is never there for more than a second, and usually just pops up and disappears right away.

I don't know whether thats because 2GB of ram, an high-end storage array, more tolerance for loading screens or a combination of the 3 :|
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