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Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion interview

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Nottheking 10th November 2005, 00:25 Quote
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Er, really? TBH I'd put it as one of the most graphically advanced games of its time. Those water effects blew me away on a GF4, and they look even more impressive now. And the game is still a bit of a system hog. Modest isn't the first word that comes to mind ;)
Well, it certainly deserves credit for the shaded water effect, which took until Unreal Tournament 2003 and Halo PC to beat. However, I was personally dissapointed in how it handled everything else; it used vertex-based lighting exclusively, (no projectors) and also had no effects applied to anything else. At the very least, I would've personally liked to see the use of transparent/alpha layers more, as well as sphere-maps, namely on the weapons/armor.
Kameleon 10th November 2005, 00:44 Quote
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Well, it certainly deserves credit for the shaded water effect, which took until Unreal Tournament 2003 and Halo PC to beat. However, I was personally dissapointed in how it handled everything else; it used vertex-based lighting exclusively, (no projectors) and also had no effects applied to anything else. At the very least, I would've personally liked to see the use of transparent/alpha layers more, as well as sphere-maps, namely on the weapons/armor.

True enough, and the people/monsters did look horrific occasionally, but the landscapes could be utterly breathtaking. About the first thing I did after getting the game was stand on top of the lighthouse in Seyda Neen and watch the sun set, and it was gorgeous.
Henry 10th November 2005, 01:08 Quote
I can't tell you how many hours I played this game... it was the reason I bought a GF6 6600GT vid card (dispite that there was 0 performance increase from my Ti4200)... I never did finish the game, probably never even got close... I just got lost one day and spent the next who knows how long just walking around and enjoying the scenery... the few beefs I have with the game was:

1. the main city was just too damn big, and you could not find anything in it

2. you could get too powerful too easy...

3. everyone and everything talking to you... LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

4. being able to walk into anyones house...

aside from that... I so can't wait for this game.
woodshop 10th November 2005, 02:40 Quote
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True enough, and the people/monsters did look horrific occasionally, but the landscapes could be utterly breathtaking. About the first thing I did after getting the game was stand on top of the lighthouse in Seyda Neen and watch the sun set, and it was gorgeous.

Really??? nothing to say about watching the twin moons roll across the sky??

I think the night sky was the best of it all
Nottheking 10th November 2005, 03:33 Quote
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True enough, and the people/monsters did look horrific occasionally, but the landscapes could be utterly breathtaking. About the first thing I did after getting the game was stand on top of the lighthouse in Seyda Neen and watch the sun set, and it was gorgeous.
How silly of me to forget the sky! It's been perhaps too long since I last actually picked up Morrowind. The Construction Set just doesn't show the sky, which is a bit sad...

What I found really sad is that upon closer inspection, the landscape detail in Battlefield 2 is virtually identical to that of Morrowind; it just has use of SpeedTree added, and a couple of other shaders here and there. I'm still not sure if this is a testament to how detailed Morrowind was, or how lacking BattleField 2 is. :?
Kameleon 10th November 2005, 03:38 Quote
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I think the night sky was the best of it all

Oooh yeah, the night sky was fabulous when it wasn't cloudy :p
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What I found really sad is that upon closer inspection, the landscape detail in Battlefield 2 is virtually identical to that of Morrowind; it just has use of SpeedTree added, and a couple of other shaders here and there. I'm still not sure if this is a testament to how detailed Morrowind was, or how lacking BattleField 2 is. :?

I thought it seemed awfully familiar in some way...:| At any rate, I think from the screenshots and videos it's very much certain that any issues we might have had with the graphics are going to be well and truly things of the past. Oblivion looks like one of those games that will make people buy hardware to get it looking its best.

Oh, and welcome to bit-tech :)
Nottheking 10th November 2005, 03:56 Quote
Oh, and as I forgot to mention in any of the threads on this article, my personal thanks to Da Dego for asking what you did. I am quite possibly among the people who've invested the most interest into the technical specs of Oblivion, and I was quite pleased to see an interview like that; thanks. :)
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Oooh yeah, the night sky was fabulous when it wasn't cloudy :p
Au Contraire, I thought it was best during a thunderstorm at night. Though I was a little dissapointed at how it never got truly dark, the lightning and thunder effect was truly spectacular. I am one of the (likely majority) that can say they were startled the first time they heard thunder in Morrowind.
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I thought it seemed awfully familiar in some way...:| At any rate, I think from the screenshots and videos it's very much certain that any issues we might have had with the graphics are going to be well and truly things of the past. Oblivion looks like one of those games that will make people buy hardware to get it looking its best.
Indeed, I've been floored by the appearance of the game from day one. In my case, I can't necessarily afford new hardware, but it makes me glad that I do have nice stuff already, even if it's not as nice as what some other people might use. (Athlon64 2800+, X800XT AGP)
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Oh, and welcome to bit-tech :)
Drat! My latest attempt to infiltrate a forum foiled. :D

At any rate, thanks. I visit a lot of forums in my Internet research, and I occasionally join them, namely when I have comments to make; I usually stick arround for more than that, though. As would be fairly obvious, I came here after jumping a link from the official Elder Scrolls forums.
Payne280 10th November 2005, 04:04 Quote
wow I am gald this interview covers dual cores, I was worried that it wouldn't support it

just gives me some more reasons to get a 3800X2
merlin 10th November 2005, 15:43 Quote
Elder Scrolls. I spent ages with Morrowind. I played it for years. I know all routes, and most of the secrets. Hell, is that game huge. 200+ hours, sure.. Then I decided to trash the CDs I had (yea, the expansions too).. There is no good way to stop playing that damn thing.. When you did go up in ranks to top of the most groups/houses.. Be a mage, a knight and anything between, or all at one.. When you seek a trader some ppl talk about, and after weeks find the speeking crab (whitout knwoing it is a speeking crab).. Do the main quest... Stard out with the TES thing... Ahhh. total overflow.. I think I need a far better computer and lots of holiday, when Oblivion comes out... damn it
mlauzon 10th November 2005, 18:54 Quote
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GC: The PhysX card is an exciting piece of technology and one we'll be keeping an eye on in the future. However, it is still young and I actually haven't seen a released game use it so far. Havok has proven itself over and over in dozens of games, and we're very happy both with our implementation of it and the support we've received from them.


Guess he hasn't seen "City of Villians", as it uses the aforementioned engine...!
Da Dego 10th November 2005, 20:31 Quote
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Oh, and as I forgot to mention in any of the threads on this article, my personal thanks to Da Dego for asking what you did. I am quite possibly among the people who've invested the most interest into the technical specs of Oblivion, and I was quite pleased to see an interview like that; thanks. :)

At any rate, thanks. I visit a lot of forums in my Internet research, and I occasionally join them, namely when I have comments to make; I usually stick arround for more than that, though. As would be fairly obvious, I came here after jumping a link from the official Elder Scrolls forums.
You're quite welcome...thanks for taking the time to read it and post! I'm glad we were able to bring some new information out! I hate asking the same old humdrum questions...half the sites that previewed the game look like they copied and pasted from each other. I wanted us to be different, and we hope to bring you guys more interviews like this in the future. Actually, that reminds me...if anyone has a game they particularly would like to see something similar to this for, feel free to PM me.

And for all of you who joined up to comment (as I see a few new faces), welcome to bit-tech! Hope you'll stick around and see all we have to offer.
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Guess he hasn't seen "City of Villians", as it uses the aforementioned engine...!
Yeah...there are also other games using Novodex. I'm surprised that with even Epic on board, that a game world as expansive as Oblivion would look past this. But as Gavin said, Havoc has certainly been proven time and time again, and they've been able to modify it well for their purposes. I'll just have to trust their judgement on this one. :)
We also have to remember that when the team first started development on this, more was known about the 360 hardware (among devs, at least) than about the future of computer hardware. PhysX wasn't a reality yet, even in prototype...
Firehed 11th November 2005, 05:45 Quote
Well, it got my mouth watering. Never played the series but meant to pick it up for a long time... maybe I'll have to.

The info is great, I'm glad to hear it'll be threaded. With the x360, I'd imagine most new games will be :) Regardless I'm getting to a point where I'm starting to want to go back to my old RPG habits. Back before all it took was a 2000dpi mouse and way too much practice with the m4... I've just been avoiding them because of RPGs, most are MMOs, and there's just one that I know of (GW, of course) that doesn't charge monthly, something I flat-out refuse to do.

I'm thinking bestbuy should update their release date.. it says 11/21/05 That or we're in for a surprise...

I wonder what playable specs will end up resembling... and whether the game supports widescreen resolutions on PC (x360 of course will, with it's 720p minimum or whatever). I don't know what's been bothering me more recently... the fact that lots of new games won't run 16:9 or 16:10 or the fact that those same new games are only borderline playable for me at 1280x1024 or lower, when before I could run 1600x1200 (or 1680x1050) easily. Bah, I hate having the best, because then I need to keep at it. Of course, overnight I went from high-end to positively midrange graphics...

Anyways, just watched the 720p official trailer, I'm impressed. Lighting looked a little... hazy is probably the best word, but overall quite the eye sex.
Mister_Tad 11th November 2005, 14:48 Quote
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Oblivion looks like one of those games that will make people buy hardware to get it looking its best.

I was considering not upgrading for another while, maybe not until mid-late next year, but then I realised I had better do for oblivion, and I will only be back in the states to buy bits once before its released. An opteron 165, sli-dr Expert and 7800GT later...
victim 27th January 2006, 22:39 Quote
lol 300 hours is nothing!! when i first bought my xbox i was pissed there were no good RPG's then i caught wind of TES3 morrowind. I think it was released late 2001/2? about 2 weeks after i lost my job and man i hit that game so hard, my first go lasted about 10-12 hours [no joke] i played the game solid for almost a year and regularly for about 3. so ive clocked up well more than 300 [hmm sounds pretty sad when i read back] i've had many chars but have 8 permanent chars and would confidently say ive been every where!

I stood in line for my 360 for 9 hours only to regret it a few days later, i love the console but the games suck big time [unfinished messes] geomerty wars is the best game on it, and thats an arcade game! While on my friends PC i put it on e-bay an done a bit of surfin when i came across OBLIVION and oh my god i almost instantly got wood took it of e-bay and have been dyin of antisipation ever since!!
This game has got me hooked already lol! It is the definative game for the 360, and im a big fan of FPS an RTS nothing this year will compare!!
Bring it on... please no longer than march :'( .. i dont think i could survive :( ...


...wow that was pretty long...

[TES3 had its problems, but i got a big imagnation an thats all you need ;) ]
looks like we wont need any for TES4 :D
SNIPERMikeUK 21st February 2006, 20:15 Quote
I am not a big RPG fan usually, I find they take up too much of my time, but this looks the mutts nutz....

And it's out quite soon on the 360, Ghost Recon 3:AW should keep me happy until then....
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