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Day of Defeat: Source

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GoTaLL 26th September 2005, 08:36 Quote
looks sweet .. :) ..
Adnuo 26th September 2005, 09:22 Quote
Lookin' mighty sechsay. Quite frustrated at the way VALVe are distributing, however. Seems like they punish those who bought retail, don't know why they feel the need to do this...

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The_Pope 26th September 2005, 09:44 Quote
Why do you say that?
Adnuo 26th September 2005, 10:02 Quote
Because those of us (like me) who bought retail, without having Steam installed on their computers, bought without the awareness that there were other packages available. I would have bought the silver package, as I really would like having the extra games offered. However, there was no way for me to know that until after I bought the retail game, opened it, and installed it. Unless I were to download, install, and run Steam without an account (which I believe is possible, though I'm not sure) and check the game offerings before buying the game (which I received as a gift), there would be no way for me to know.

That's another thing. I got the game as a gift. It's not very easy to give someone the gift of a digital package through buggy software. And it just doesn't mean as much for someone to hand you their credit card and say "go order yourself your game package". Just isn't the same, by a long shot.

At least allow people to upgrade. Let me pay the extra $20 and get the silver package contents. I'd gladly do it, and it's nothing to them. A few megabytes of download from their servers which have an insane amount of bandwidth, to the files that were already there. Not exactly an inconvenience for them. It just seems like I'm being punished for buying something that cost them. I'm well sure it cost them more to print the CDs, box them, include the manuals, ship them to retailers, and market them than it does to allow people to download them. If they don't want people buying retail box, don't offer it. Otherwise, don't punish me for it. Just let me upgrade, tis all I want to do, and it's free money in their pockets :|
The_Pope 26th September 2005, 10:29 Quote
Well, retail owners like you & me are Half-Life 2 Bronze.
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HALF-LIFE 2 SILVER INCLUDES:
· Half-Life 2
· Counter-Strike: Source
· Half-Life: Source
· Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
· Day of Defeat: Source*
· PLUS: Valve's BACK CATALOG available on Steam

So, one could've paid $59.95 nearly a year ago and waited this long for DoD: Source, or paid US$49.95 (or in your case, nothing as it was a gift) and still had HL2 + CSS etc
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Let me pay the extra $20 and get the silver package contents.
Well, you kinda can mate - pay $20 and get DoD: Source today, and that's basically the same, isn't it?
Adnuo 26th September 2005, 11:04 Quote
I actually priced this out shortly after I posted. For a "Bronze" level person to get to the "Silver" level, which comes with the additions of: DOD:Source and Valve's BackCatalouge, one would have to buy every other package deal VALVe offers. This includes the "DOD:Source", for $20.00, the "Valve Premier Package", which has everything in the BackCatalouge with the exception of CS:Condition Zero, and CS:CZ seperately. The Valve Premier Package is $20, the CS:Condition Zero expansion alone is $15. So, one has to pay for DOD:Source: $20, plus Premier Package: $20, plus CS:CZ: $15. $55 extra dollars is what it would take to make a Bronze package equal to a Silver package, which is offered for $20 more.

Why make Bronze owners pay $55 to get the Silver contents, which are only $20 more? Why can't they offer a DOD:Source + VALVe BackCatalouge package for $20, making a Bronze package equal to a Silver package?

EDIT: I really hope this makes sense, as it didn't to me on a second read-through. It's 4AM, have to give me a break :/
keir 26th September 2005, 11:06 Quote
great stuff, I had no idea it was going to use HDR either. awsome stoof!
cant wait till I get home from work tonite, I'll have a second supprise :D
girln00b 26th September 2005, 11:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by keir
great stuff, I had no idea it was going to use HDR either. awsome stoof!
cant wait till I get home from work tonite, I'll have a second supprise :D

Whats the first?

...This is gonna be fantastic :D
The_Pope 26th September 2005, 12:21 Quote
Adnuo - I guess you're technically right mate, but I was ignoring the backcatalogue stuff because it's all so old. For most people, Retail + $20 DoDS = Silver.
Adnuo 26th September 2005, 12:30 Quote
Yeah, true. I just don't have the back games yet :/. Little behind the times I guess, but it would be nice to have the older classics. Live and learn I guess :p
chemo 26th September 2005, 12:31 Quote
i thought the collectors edition of the retail game was the silver package? seems though that you still dont get dod source with it.
Adnuo 26th September 2005, 12:42 Quote
Collector's Edition is Gold, comes with all the goodies (posters, hats, books, T-Shirts, CDs, public verification of geekdom certificate). Silver comes with DOD:S :)
The_Pope 26th September 2005, 12:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnuo
Yeah, true. I just don't have the back games yet :/. Little behind the times I guess, but it would be nice to have the older classics. Live and learn I guess :p

Yeah, it seems nice in theory, but I can't imagine ever playing them tbh. Once you have new & shiny toys to play with, you tend to ignore the older ones. For example, I've never completed the original Half-Life single player, but I'm not about to go back and do it now just to say that I have.

Draw a line in the digital sand and move on :D
RTT 26th September 2005, 13:16 Quote
Dod really, really needed this. I have my $20 ready for when I next boot my gaming rig :D
The_Pope 26th September 2005, 13:19 Quote
I gotta share: 10 vs 10 is GOOOOOOD :D

Thank god for laptop + desktop :P
Tim S 26th September 2005, 13:21 Quote
I want my gaming rig back :'(
Cavedweller 26th September 2005, 13:52 Quote
Adnuo: First of all. There was _no_ way DoD: Source could have been included in the retail package. Simply because VU is not the owner of the distribution rights of that particulair game.

Secondly. If you had no knowledge of the Steam packages you can hardly blame anybody but yourself. Any website reporting steam news had run several stories about the packages and their prices. If you missed all of them you must've been living under a rock at the time, and hence, you wouldn't be considered the target group.

That being said, I totally agree it sucks you can't upgrade any package.
The_Pope 26th September 2005, 13:56 Quote
Take it easy mate - he's just annoyed at missing out s'all
Cavedweller 26th September 2005, 14:11 Quote
Oh... I had no intention of sounding hostile or anything 8( Sorry 'bout that.
Just trying to inform, 'cus there are many who doesn't know why VU didn't (couldn't) include DoD:S

English is my second language and i belive that was just proved 8)
The_Pope 26th September 2005, 14:16 Quote
It's ok then. Sometimes the "nice" in people gets lost in translation :)

Welcome to the bit-tech forums by the way - thanks for coming
Fly 26th September 2005, 15:18 Quote
That preview pretty much made me want to go back to bed til 11pm, I might just watch Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan and the Longest Day so I'm ready to "meet them on the beaches".
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"What General Weygand called the Battle of France is over. I expect that the Battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilization. upon it depends our own British life and the long continuity of our institutions and our Empire. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us now. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age, made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will say, "This was their finest hour."
Da Dego 26th September 2005, 16:11 Quote
I'm looking forward to this, though I'm in agreement that those of us who bought the retail package are being punished. I paid a premium in gas and time to purchase it anyways over buying it online, and I did so because I really prefer to have an actual copy of the game I just spent that money on. Now I have to spend $20, and the next time they decide to release something that falls under "silver" or "gold" (which they assuredly will) I'll have to pay again. That's the problem that I have with it...I agree that we should be allowed to upgrade our package with that $20 instead of buying the individual software.
rupbert 26th September 2005, 17:23 Quote
A stop gap until COD2, don't get me wrong it looks fine, but imo COD2 is much more cinematic and would leave a lasting effect.

Interested to see how well it run's with HDR, is this the same HDR that will feature on the Lost Coast?
sadffffff 26th September 2005, 20:46 Quote
"I'm sure you'll forgive us if we leave HDR enabled"
aaah! not me, ish! everything is all overbright fuzzy and untrue to real light, ouch it makes my eyes hurt
automagsrock 26th September 2005, 21:09 Quote
So does this mean since I purchased the version of HL:2 that came with the t-shirt that I will also need to pay the $20 to play this?? I thought the T-Shirt version was the silver package......:?
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