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Dungeon Keeper Review

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Gunsmith 6th February 2014, 09:45 Quote
and off we go to GOG to get the original.
Spreadie 6th February 2014, 11:11 Quote
There is a youtube rant masquerading as a review about this freemium game. It gets a bit sweary too, so be careful if you're at work.

They aren't games any more, they are just cash cows for mobile devices.

I have Clash of Clans on my tablet and it's the same deal - you start of with a few gems but everything costs money and takes an increasingly long time to upgrade. Of course, you can buy gems and exchange them for resources (gold, elixir etc..), if you haven't mined a sufficient amount. You can also spend gems to instantly complete an upgrade - but a 24hr upgrade will probably cost you ~ 300 gems to complete, if you don't want to wait.

The pricing of gems is similar to Dungeon Keeper - starting at £2.99 for 500 and ranging up to £64.99 for 14,000.

It is possible to play these games without spending money, but once you get so far into it (not that far to be honest), it is effectively reduced to the equivalent of the old Play By Mail games - you can issue a number of commands and then wait days for something to happen.

If everyone made the effort to avoid these games, or at least avoid paying to progress, maybe the developers will piss off and do something useful.
Almightyrastus 6th February 2014, 11:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
and off we go to GOG to get the original.


Right behind you...
StoneyMahoney 6th February 2014, 11:41 Quote
Time to start coding a Minecraft mod to do this instead....
B1GBUD 6th February 2014, 12:28 Quote
I think a score of 10 is a little too high.....
exceededgoku 6th February 2014, 12:30 Quote
Actually depressing how games have turned into this.

Square gets it right with the Final Fantasy and Chaos Ring series, no stupid mobile cash cow tactics here. Just a high initial cost and a brilliant port.

Won't even spare this game a minute of my time. Terrible.
Guinevere 6th February 2014, 12:37 Quote
That EA did this to Dungeon Keeper = Sad (But not surprising)

That EA will probably still make money from this = Super Sad

I don't understand why companies like EA don't release a free to play game like this with a single IAP set a reasonable amount (£5 to £10) that removes all the 'wait to play on' aspects and just allows you to play and enjoy.

That's a lie. I do understand. There's no doubt a LOT of players out there who keep on spending on the IAPs to make such a model worthwhile. I'll never be one of them.
loftie 6th February 2014, 12:48 Quote
I liked Francis' video on it, 24 hours to mine one block ^^
enciem 6th February 2014, 13:19 Quote
I was looking at the 10 thinking it was 10/10 and wondering why it was so scathing. Of course looked at the score first.

Surely if they added the need to log into origin and then open a browser to log into that so you can launch the game it would make it much better ;)
atlas 6th February 2014, 13:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by exceededgoku
Actually depressing how games have turned into this.

Square gets it right with the Final Fantasy and Chaos Ring series, no stupid mobile cash cow tactics here. Just a high initial cost and a brilliant port.

Won't even spare this game a minute of my time. Terrible.

exactly right, charge for the game if you need to don't create this crap.
DriftCarl 6th February 2014, 14:37 Quote
such a shame, I have been hoping for a DK game for years, I am very disappointed now
scott_chegg 6th February 2014, 14:47 Quote
It's another step on the journey for EA to finally destroy the gaming industry.
TheDarkSide 6th February 2014, 18:07 Quote
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO DK!!!!

Seriously there should be a law preventing the damage of precious memories.
Corky42 6th February 2014, 20:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by DriftCarl
such a shame, I have been hoping for a DK game for years, I am very disappointed now
You should look at a game called Dungeons, obviously its not a direct copy of the original but i would venture to say its probably closer to the original than the one reviewed, although saying that when Bit-Tech reviewed it they didn't seem to rate it :|
bigc90210 6th February 2014, 20:37 Quote
my most favourite game of all time. ruined.

on a different note, if anyone can get DK1 and DD expansion working on windows 8.1 let me know (had compatability problems with it ever since windows 8)

if anyone can get MULTIPLAYER working on windows 8.1 and can provide info on how, i will have your babies.
Dr. Coin 6th February 2014, 20:59 Quote
I was so excited when I saw the review... loved to first two games. Guess I just got to get up and dust off the old CD collection if I want to to play a DK game.
Almightyrastus 6th February 2014, 21:32 Quote
Hehe, DK2 and DK Gold are sitting at the top of GOG's best sellers right now..
Lockinvar 7th February 2014, 04:29 Quote
For anyone interested (and equally appalled by this EA drivel) there was a successful kickstarter for a spiritual sequel supported by Peter Molyneux - War for the Overworld. It's taking longer than anticipated (as usual) but progress is constant - and it's on steam early access already in a very playable beta form.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subterraneangames/war-for-the-overworld
http://store.steampowered.com/app/230190/
Draksis 7th February 2014, 06:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lockinvar
For anyone interested (and equally appalled by this EA drivel) there was a successful kickstarter for a spiritual sequel supported by Peter Molyneux - War for the Overworld. It's taking longer than anticipated (as usual) but progress is constant - and it's on steam early access already in a very playable beta form.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subterraneangames/war-for-the-overworld
http://store.steampowered.com/app/230190/

I bought that ages ago, and it's still very rough. I would say it's sitting some where between Alpha and Beta versions now. The Developers have said that they are nearly done with the multiplayer component, and they are working on new content all the time.

Back on topic: I was wondering if Bit-tech weren't being a bit harsh with 10%, then I saw this: Metacritic review page.

I know Metacritic is not exactly the perfect yard stick, but still does make you realise just how angry people feel about it..
Zurechial 7th February 2014, 15:55 Quote
"Price: Your Soul and Childhood Memories"

That made me laugh.
I'm glad to see this getting absolutely slaughtered in reviews, but the shadiness goes beyond just the game itself.
Check this out:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-06-dungeon-keeper-androids-rating-system-filters-out-1-4-star-reviews

(TL;DR: The game only lets you rate it 5 stars on the Android store, or gives you the option to email your feedback - It prevents people rating it the 1/5 it deserves)
M3G4 7th February 2014, 17:08 Quote
The sad thing is, die hard fans like me would pay up to around £10 just for the ability to play DK2 or the original DK on their tablets. The original game would port extremely well to a tablet if done correctly. This half-baked micropayment free-to-play bullshit just isn't on. The only thing DK about this game is the poorly crafted imitations of the original characters and the name itself.
asura 7th February 2014, 22:16 Quote
Burn it; burn it with fire!
GravitySmacked 8th February 2014, 16:27 Quote
It's such a shame as it looks really nice.
Farting Bob 8th February 2014, 18:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigc90210
my most favourite game of all time. ruined.

No, this isnt the same game. Its not even the same genre. Its not made by any of the same guys. It should have no impact at all on your opinion of any previous games. This is just a Clash of Clans game with a famous old name tacked on for extra publicity.
Nexxo 8th February 2014, 18:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by scott_chegg
It's another step on the journey for EA to finally destroy the gaming industry.

Or to be vaporised into irrelevance by the supernova that is Valve.
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