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Originally Posted by SinxarKnightsIt is weird because I loved the story of the Mass Effect trilogy, as a lot of people did. When I heard about this I had the same reaction as the score you gave it, meh.
Originally Posted by DC74
The script writing is highschool at best with massive gaping plotholes like erm no common sense at all given to the following which given that this took so much time and resources to organise seems damnright stupid:-
Who sends over a hundred thousand colonists to a new galaxy without arming their vessels even defensively?
Civilian funded initiatives, I suspect. Don't see many Red Cross vehicles with M249's on the roof! There are some more military looking pieces of equipment later on (Turian)
Who screened these people since they mutiny at the slightest problem of a colony ship being a few months late?
I'd say that's believable, given they were meant to arrive to golden worlds, and arrived to a cluster**** instead.
Why the hell isn't the station finished off within months of you arrival having the main character finding the resources to do so and manpower no longer being an issue since the Human Ark ship has arrived?
Pass. A guess - Resources going to outpost construction to get more people on settlements rather than in the freezer?
Why were people exiled instead of being put back into cryo, since exiling people turns them into outlaws and pirates who just would cause more issues further down the line?
Power - When you arrive the Nexus is in partial shutdown due to lack of power, probably not feasible to forcibly re-freeze a bunch of violent mutineers. Also, possibly internal politics. Tann and Addison are Captains of the Douche Cannoe.
Why didn't the Ark ships contain a couple of small military escort vessels to defend them and the station once they arrived in Andromeda? I know it's civilian the Initiative but even corporations have military ships to defend their interests. You also can't guarantee the first people you meet in a new place will be friendly just like the Kett.
I'm assuming it's because it's a civilian initiative. I have some suspicions as to why, but don't know what you know already, so won't go into it.
In the end I feel this game was rushed and was probably more of an EA deadline that caused the issues, but a polished turd is still a turd, honestly you would have thought they would have learned from ME3, but clearly they haven't...
Well, it is a different studio..
Originally Posted by vdbswong75 hours later, 92% completion... I loved it and once I wrap up more of the tasks I'll dive straight into NG+.
Do I think it's better than the original Trilogy? Of course not... because that's 3 games worth of content and relationships that I've developed where I carried through my decisions over to 2 more games.
It always perplexes me when every negative review I've read complains the characters are forgettable when compared to the OT ones yet they've known them so much longer. Even with that said, i remember how when ME2 was released and the press summed up the characters:
Miranda - Forgettable human companion, "genetically perfect"? Pah, just there for the eye candy.
Jacob - There's a reason he's regarded as the worst companion in the series.
Jack - Generic "supposed to be a bad-ass foul-mouthed woman that has a sensitive side somehow equates to depth of character".
Grunt - Oh no.. another typical Krogan soldier except he's somehow "genetically superior".
Mordin - This one we like :).
Thane - is cool.
And then obviously you had Tali and Garrus who were returning from ME1... so yeah, the roster is smaller this time around, but consider ME1 where it was just Ashley/Kaiden, Garrus, Wrex, Liara, Tali and that was all. Hell we can even summarise the ME1 characters when they were released:
Ashley - Oh... she's borderline racist... but she's a love interest so we keep her.
Kaiden - Noone likes Kaiden.
Garrus - In ME1 he wasn't anywhere near what he became... just your by-the-book C-Sec officer that also had daddy issues because he wasn't military and trying to find his own place. It wasn't until ME2 when he struck out on his own that he developed more of a personality.
Tali - Alien on a pilgrimage from that race that noone (lore-wise) likes.
Liara - Was she just added in so people could a) get with an alien b) have a female-female relationship c) have a relationship because everyone kills off Kaiden?
Wrex - Literally the only character that was worth something at the time.
I feel like everyone is judging ME:A as some sort of sequel to the entire Trilogy and follows in the footsteps of ME2/3. When in reality my take of it is that it's simply ME1 done better... if you loved ME1, you'll love Andromeda... the exploration aspect, the not having the fate of the entire galaxy looming over your head at every turn.
If you didn't get into the ME universe until ME2 and 3, then you'll probably only enjoy the combat and the main quests ("Priority Ops" and "Allies and Relationships"), but then that's all you really "have to" do anyway...
Are there flaws with the game? Sure:
Facial animations - There are some standout moments... but I just put that down to my sarcastic Ryder just being a massive goofball. Otherwise, it really doesn't phase me because everyone I know that plays a Bioware RPG just reads subtitles and spacebars through since otherwise you'll be 10 hours in and 5% complete.
Galaxy map - Hands down, whoever did this needs to be........ it was cool the first time though.
Fetch quests - They're clearly marked and I don't *have* to do them so... no. However those quests that you can stumble across that's simply "Find more datapads" and you have the entire World to explore... yeah.
All in all though, i think the game gets way too much stick for simply not being what some people wanted (the sequel to ME2/3) as opposed to what it actually is (the "successor" to ME1).
Originally Posted by goshdamn shame as i was (and am) a huge fan of the original trilogy and still play me3's multiplayer on occasion.
any chance of a mini-review of andromedas multiplayer and how it compares to me3 ?
Originally Posted by jrs77If this would be the first time I've heard about ME, or in fact if this would be the first ME ever, then the game is still crap. The gameplay is crap, the animations are crap and the character-models especially the female ones are fugly as sheit.
If I would've bought this game at full price then I would be outraged 10 hours into the game that I gave Bioware any money for this bad product.
Originally Posted by jrs77There's a reason why all the reviews give this game a thumbs down and that's not just because of sentimental reasons and the relationship people might've had with the previous characters.
If the gameplay would be good and the animations and characters polished the reviews would look different, simple as that.
Bioware was lazy with this one, banking on the trilogy to have enough fond memories to make people buy this game.
Originally Posted by vdbswongI've read and it reads around a 5/10, whereas other reviews simply highlight all of the negative aspects and then still recommend it as being 7/10 which makes it seem like once again we're now conditioned to calling it trash due to it not being >8/10.
Originally Posted by vdbswong...
As for "all the reviews giving this game a thumbs down"... I think we must run in different circles, because bit-tech's is probably the most negative review I've read and it reads around a 5/10, whereas other reviews simply highlight all of the negative aspects and then still recommend it as being 7/10 which makes it seem like once again we're now conditioned to calling it trash due to it not being >8/10.
Also, considering that the majority of the reviews (including this one) I've read have literally said that Gameplay is one of the redeeming features of the game and that the main issues are mainly Game Design (Repetitive Quests), Narrative and Pacing with a handful of janky animations and bland writing... it really doesn't seem like we're on the same page here.
I would love to find a review that comes in fresh from 0 ME exposure, be it rose-tinted nostalgia of the original trilogy or just seeing a compilation of all the janky animations and then combing every single scene to look out for them
Originally Posted by JakeTuckerQuote:Originally Posted by goshdamn shame as i was (and am) a huge fan of the original trilogy and still play me3's multiplayer on occasion.
any chance of a mini-review of andromedas multiplayer and how it compares to me3 ?
I've got you covered buddy. Expect something a bit later this week (because I'm very deep in a couple of other reviews). In short, I've enjoyed it.
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