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sotu1 22nd April 2008, 08:43 Quote
fate of the world? bit dramatic isn't it!?

thanks for the article brett. there's plenty of mac users out here who appreciate this. i imagine some benchmarks for games on mac would be much appreciated feature too (though is bound to throw up some mac vs windows arguments)
Leitchy 22nd April 2008, 09:11 Quote
Gaming on a Mac? This is blasphemy!
iwog 22nd April 2008, 09:11 Quote
EA are supporting this kind of software, well Maxis is. Spore will be using "wrapper" technology so that it can run in the Mac OS environment. link

I'm not sure but is this s a similar thing to Crossover and Wine but it seems to be. They talk about using the Windows code and then wrapping it in Mac/Linux code so that those systems can run it.
Digital-Prozac 22nd April 2008, 09:16 Quote
@iwog

EA use Cider on all of there Mac supported games (BF2142 et al). As do Aspyr (QW:ET, CoD4 & GH3). Difference between Cider and Crossover, Games have to be converted to use Cider where as Crossover doesn't require the game to have any tweaks done to it first.

I've used an early version of Crossover and was quite impressed with it's handling of HL2 and CS:Source on my Mac. Have yet to try anything Cider based, but for those who may be interested, you can convert your own games to use Cider if you Google a bit.
bsport 22nd April 2008, 09:43 Quote
I used this to run TF2 on my macbook. good program, still using the trail but most likey going to buy soon. Altho my macbook can get alittle hot from playing TF2
p3n 22nd April 2008, 09:50 Quote
Interesting! Theres a Mac client for WoW though so thats rather odd Oo
phuzz 22nd April 2008, 10:55 Quote
planning on a bit of C&C against my flatmate on his macbook, me on my vista box, this weekend.
Any suggestions for mac vs pc gaming (given that his macbook has pretty rubbish 3d graphics)?
Hugo 22nd April 2008, 11:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Leitchy
Gaming on a Mac? This is blasphemy!

THIS IS CROSSOVER!!!

Cool feature guys, nice break from the norm.
DXR_13KE 22nd April 2008, 12:08 Quote
i heard that some games work faster here than in windows....
Da Dego 22nd April 2008, 12:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
i heard that some games work faster here than in windows....

In my testing, I found this to be subjectively true. However, as I mentioned, it's pretty hard to get real numbers for this...so I didn't want to put it out there to find out it was wrong. :) However, I will say that HL2:Ep 2 actually runs better on my mac than on my desktop, which has an E6600, 4GB of RAM and an 8800gtx.. :)
Curila 22nd April 2008, 12:51 Quote
can you make the game play at full screen.... ????
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
i heard that some games work faster here than in windows....

In my testing, I found this to be subjectively true. However, as I mentioned, it's pretty hard to get real numbers for this...so I didn't want to put it out there to find out it was wrong. :) However, I will say that HL2:Ep 2 actually runs better on my mac than on my desktop, which has an E6600, 4GB of RAM and an 8800gtx.. :)

i fink its because you didn't run it at full screen.....
Da Dego 22nd April 2008, 12:55 Quote
Yep, I can play it at full screen and did. Running it windowed can actually be more intensive, as the computer has to track the desktop as well. But at equal resolutions, the game played better on Crossover. But, like I said - this is hard to verify, as FRAPS and in-game counts are not really assuredly accurate.
StephenK 22nd April 2008, 13:45 Quote
Time to break out the copies of Thief 1 & 2 then. Always hated the number of crashes I get with XP. I'm so happy I could cry :)
Firehed 22nd April 2008, 14:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
i heard that some games work faster here than in windows....

In my testing, I found this to be subjectively true. However, as I mentioned, it's pretty hard to get real numbers for this...so I didn't want to put it out there to find out it was wrong. :) However, I will say that HL2:Ep 2 actually runs better on my mac than on my desktop, which has an E6600, 4GB of RAM and an 8800gtx.. :)

What res/settings though?
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Originally Posted by Da Dego
Yep, I can play it at full screen and did. Running it windowed can actually be more intensive, as the computer has to track the desktop as well. But at equal resolutions, the game played better on Crossover. But, like I said - this is hard to verify, as FRAPS and in-game counts are not really assuredly accurate.
Shouldn't really be the case in OS X, since it's a fully 3d environment all around. It's not like windows where it flips out trying to draw a 3d window in a 2d desktop environment. That said, you always end up clicking out of the window and screwing yourself up in game anyways.

I'm quite tempted to get this if I ever have free time again to play some more games. I first got Crossover more than a year ago so that I could run... I have no idea at this point.

An e-cookie/e-beer/e-tc to the first person that can tell me whether Dungeon Keeper runs properly under this. Oh yes, hail the power of DX3.
koola 22nd April 2008, 14:08 Quote
Will deffo be purchasing this. Bye bye bootcamp partition.
airchie 22nd April 2008, 15:59 Quote
LMAO @ Hugo!! :D:D

This sounds awesome though.
I will be waiting patiently for the linux version review though as I intend to install Hardy Heron soon.
Quite coincidentally, when I finish the coursework I'm working on I can scrap my vista install and the day the coursework is due is the day Hardy comes out of Beta!
Fate?? :D

Cannot wait to get stuck into linux properly. :)
Vista sucks ass IMO.
Thacrudd 22nd April 2008, 16:11 Quote
right click? Do you have any idea how long it took for me to get used to not using a right click?! AND you want me to game without it?!!
OtakuHawk 22nd April 2008, 16:31 Quote
These guys just released a version for BSD. once it goes stable, I think I'll try that.
koola 22nd April 2008, 17:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Thacrudd
right click? Do you have any idea how long it took for me to get used to not using a right click?! AND you want me to game without it?!!

Th4mXXBNV38

They do!
Kipman725 22nd April 2008, 17:13 Quote
seems interesting. I have got quite good at tweeking wine though so will probobly never use this.
completemadness 22nd April 2008, 19:23 Quote
So this is like Cedega - but actually giving back to the wine dev's?

Its always been a bit sad that the cedega guys do quite a lot of work, but they cant benefit from the better/newer wine, and vica versa
_ViC_ 22nd April 2008, 20:19 Quote
Sadly, the two games I need most atm - Oblivion and EverQuest 2 - won't go with CrossOver. I never tried Oblivion because one of CrossOver's crew stated it won't run, but EQ2 gave me a pause. The game was released in 2005 and still modern day wrapper has trouble running most of the shader effects, while delivering major performance hit.

My 40$ are staying with me for now.
DXR_13KE 22nd April 2008, 21:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Thacrudd
right click? Do you have any idea how long it took for me to get used to not using a right click?! AND you want me to game without it?!!

plug into a mac any standard computer mouse and you will see it work... as if by magic....
Fr4nk 22nd April 2008, 22:15 Quote
Also apparently Cider is somewhat crackable too, allowing you to play other EA titles, (I think someone got NFS: Underground 2 to work) Old as it is, it's still a pretty amazing feet, gonna have to give Crossover ago, been boot camping for BF2 and portal the past few months but this looks a lot nicer :)
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Originally Posted by Thacrudd
right click? Do you have any idea how long it took for me to get used to not using a right click?! AND you want me to game without it?!!
Two finger tap?
:P
Valo 23rd April 2008, 00:19 Quote
i've had pretty bad experience with Cross Over - most old games I tried it with did not work. Today I have checked out Crossover Games for mac and tried to run 2 old games - airline tycoon (win 95 anyone?) and midtown madness 2. The former one did not launch, the latter had buggered up menus and gameplay was veeery slow :/ Will try some steam based games later this week
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