I've had one of those for ages - I was always quite happy with it for gaming, but likewise didn't love it for daily use thanks to the cramped keyboard.
Originally Posted by Article It would have honestly seemed a better idea to remove the 1-9 buttons, which are already repeated on the gaming pad
What about the shift states of those keys? For those of us that use the "1-9" above the qwerty keys that would have made this an almost useless keyboard. (Since first playing around on an IBM-XT clone I've used the "numpad" as cursor keys (there were no mice at the time) and the top keys as numbers)
But then again - since I can't play FPS (motion-sickness), and since I'm a lefty, all can say is meh
For those who are worried about the keyboard being crap for typing on there's also the Wolfclaw Devour, which is just the keypad bit from the left side, with some extra buttons. I'm thinking pretty hard about getting one for when I take my lappy to LANs.
Originally Posted by [cibyr] For those who are worried about the keyboard being crap for typing on there's also the Wolfclaw Devour, which is just the keypad bit from the left side, with some extra buttons. I'm thinking pretty hard about getting one for when I take my lappy to LANs.
That's a far better design. Maybe having one of those and a wireless keyboard for regular typing would be a good comprimise, you can easily take the wireless keyboard and move it off your desk when you want to play some games.
possible modding victim. cutting off the "normal" part of the keyboard and leave the circle part as a stand alone functional (of course or the idea of modding is gone). So when in normal use you use a standard (standard as in more comfortable to use for other things then gaming) keyboard thats more comfy.
heh, what they really should have done was making a round standalone keyboard of the gaming area that could be added to the standard keyboard, now that would be a real crowd winner
I prefer the zboard MERC to the wolf king designs because of the numeric placement up top above the middle finger. I didn't like the wolf king put the numbers in a complete 180 arc, since that means I have to take my pinky off control/shift/alt/z.
The only annoying thing about the merc is a lack of ZX keys, which wolf king has.
Originally Posted by [cibyr] For those who are worried about the keyboard being crap for typing on there's also the Wolfclaw Devour, which is just the keypad bit from the left side, with some extra buttons. I'm thinking pretty hard about getting one for when I take my lappy to LANs.
Hopefully, we'll get our hands on that soon too...
I got the timberwolf and love it for gaming, and actually like the main keyboard though i didnt realise it was shrunk down until u said. The only tricky thing was getting used to the enter key.
I broke my other one accidently (thanks jackson and coke) and it seemed to freak out and landed up grinding to a halt. But i bought another one cause its comfortable easy to use and the best for fps games imo.
I'm a little curious about Bit-Tech's attachment to macro and volume keys.
Personally, my computer has volume shortcut keys (though no macro keys), and I often find that my computer runs dramatically faster when gaming if I shut the shortcut key process down.
Now, I've not tried every product, but my experience with logitech, at least, has lead me to find that the macro or shortcut software tends to be terrible resource hogs. Personally, I prefer having to press two different buttons to losing 5-10 fps, particularly when I'm just barely making 30 fps.
I play Both FPSes, and RPGs, and I cannot really see any time where I need to use a key sequence longer than 2-3 keypresses regularly, and in those times where i do, there's generally some slight variance that would render a macro useless. (maybe they're usefull in RTSes).
Overall, I would imagine that the general disinterest in products is that can handle macros is that they slow everything down.
It might be a good idea for Bit-Tech to measure the memory and CPU utilization of all those macro and shortcut key services. If there's a keyboard that is really efficent, people might be more interested.
that fact is, is that it isn't a big issue for most people who own a G15, because usually their machine would be able to hand a few small processes running in the background with no inpact on performance.
even on my old laptop (which im currently using because my 8800 fried) the performance hit (if there is one) is not noticable.
I would not change my G15 for any other keyboard currently on the market.
Originally Posted by Omnituens that fact is, is that it isn't a big issue for most people who own a G15, because usually their machine would be able to hand a few small processes running in the background with no inpact on performance.
even on my old laptop (which im currently using because my 8800 fried) the performance hit (if there is one) is not noticable.
I don't know.
On my machine (Pentium M 2.00 ghz, Geforce go 7800 GTX, 1 gb ram, yes, it's a gaming notebook), I get a pretty significant reduction in performance.
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But then again - since I can't play FPS (motion-sickness), and since I'm a lefty, all can say is meh
You mean like this (bottom of the page) like cibyr already mentioned
-eq... look up one post above yours
The only annoying thing about the merc is a lack of ZX keys, which wolf king has.
Hopefully, we'll get our hands on that soon too...
I broke my other one accidently (thanks jackson and coke) and it seemed to freak out and landed up grinding to a halt. But i bought another one cause its comfortable easy to use and the best for fps games imo.
Personally, my computer has volume shortcut keys (though no macro keys), and I often find that my computer runs dramatically faster when gaming if I shut the shortcut key process down.
Now, I've not tried every product, but my experience with logitech, at least, has lead me to find that the macro or shortcut software tends to be terrible resource hogs. Personally, I prefer having to press two different buttons to losing 5-10 fps, particularly when I'm just barely making 30 fps.
I play Both FPSes, and RPGs, and I cannot really see any time where I need to use a key sequence longer than 2-3 keypresses regularly, and in those times where i do, there's generally some slight variance that would render a macro useless. (maybe they're usefull in RTSes).
Overall, I would imagine that the general disinterest in products is that can handle macros is that they slow everything down.
It might be a good idea for Bit-Tech to measure the memory and CPU utilization of all those macro and shortcut key services. If there's a keyboard that is really efficent, people might be more interested.
even on my old laptop (which im currently using because my 8800 fried) the performance hit (if there is one) is not noticable.
I would not change my G15 for any other keyboard currently on the market.
I don't know.
On my machine (Pentium M 2.00 ghz, Geforce go 7800 GTX, 1 gb ram, yes, it's a gaming notebook), I get a pretty significant reduction in performance.
I still think it's an area of interest.