Originally Posted by inflatable The game is not easy at all if you turn of all driving-aids and up the AI level a bit.. If you leave the game on default settings, yeah maybe it's a bit to easy, but that goes for any game left on default settings imho..
And besides all that, consolegames are more arcade by nature, even socalled sim games like Forza or GT.. The real hardcore sim stuff is only found on the PC..
I completely forgot it had driving aids. This game *must* be easy, then. I played the first Forza and that wasn't very hard either with the driving aids off. Also, the PC is not a standardized platform, so online players of GTR 2 with framerates in the 60s are going to have an obvious advantage over someone playing on legacy hardware. This is a notable reason for the appeal in launching their racing sim titles on the console only--aside from the obvious exclusivity ass-talk.
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Originally Posted by Zombie First off, i'm not a die hard forza fan - I've been a GT fan since the first one. I bought this to fill the void while waiting for the next GT.
Keep your GT skills sharp. Set the right analog stick in Forza to control the accelerator and braking. The triggers don't make sense to me when I could overlap pressing gas and brake at the same time. Maybe that was why it seems easy to some people
Originally Posted by Amon Keep your GT skills sharp. Set the right analog stick in Forza to control the accelerator and braking. The triggers don't make sense to me when I could overlap pressing gas and brake at the same time. Maybe that was why it seems easy to some people
Why doesn't it make sense to you? In a real car you can overlap gas and brake aswell.. Pro racedrivers use the heel&toe technique alot to use gas and brake at the same time..
Originally Posted by inflatable Why doesn't it make sense to you? In a real car you can overlap gas and brake aswell.. Pro racedrivers use the heel&toe technique alot to use gas and brake at the same time..
I knew this throttle blip issue was going to be brought up when I said that. I know it is possible for professionals to do blip the throttle in a downshift, but getting off the gas and on the brake, or visa versa in the corner exit, either instantaneously or overlapping, with the same foot doesn't make sense. I made no mention of downshifting.
Using the brake when exiting a corner doesn't make sense, I'll agree on that.. But why would you? As far as I can tell I only use the brake when entering a corner, just like in real life..
Btw, in go-karting it's even more normal to use gas and brake at the same time.. But that's different I guess..
I don't think the reviewer is racing simulator buff so he doesn't understand racing sim genera. Also when you play online, play with people you know. You don't want a dick to enter the race and run you off the road. So really play with people you know that wouldn't **** around. Also i don't one person i play with who likes their wireless steering wheel who all bought it for forza. The wheel has a design flaw as you can't do a 180 with degree of accuracy as the wheel can't be turned either fully. Also i am sick of the graphic statement.. some tracks have medicore graphic but other are way better. Forza team spent more time in car models graphic making them look incredibly realistically. Forza is best racing simulator ever made!!
For newbie i would give this game : 8 out 10
for people who like racing sim i would give this game : 10 out 10
go read a better review from an editor who knows more about racing sim !
Originally Posted by Draven But the lack of challenge is not just about the control method, it is also due to how easy it is to upgrade your car with no regard for physical dimension, or whether supporting components could survive the ridiculous amounts of torque being pushed through them.
Finally stating that you have not noticed the graphical issues because you have to concentrate on driving, does not mean that they are not there. Both Bindi and Tim were as surprised as me when they saw the shimmering textures and lack of AA.
I do hear a lot of people complaining about the lack of challenge, when really, the lack of challenge isn't down to the game but the driver, you don't have to max out your car, but people grab the best car possible and then are surprised that they leave their opponents behind.
I'm not denying the graphical flaws are there, but I'd rather have a few jaggies than have a stuttering game. IMO, graphics aren't all that important, and I think Forza's graphics are perfectly acceptable, I think too many people slate games nowerdays because they haven't got better graphics than any game released before it.
But I do praise you for not glossing over the bad points, all too often reviewers find that they like the game, then give only praise and gloss over any downfalls (and in a similar way, a reviewer might find a game they don't like for some reason and just slag it off, completely ignoring any of it's good points).
Originally Posted by tuteja1986 Your review sucks :(
I don't think the reviewer is racing simulator buff so he doesn't understand racing sim genera. Also when you play online, play with people you know. You don't want a dick to enter the race and run you off the road. So really play with people you know that wouldn't **** around. Also i don't one person i play with who likes their wireless steering wheel who all bought it for forza. The wheel has a design flaw as you can't do a 180 with degree of accuracy as the wheel can't be turned either fully. Also i am sick of the graphic statement.. some tracks have medicore graphic but other are way better. Forza team spent more time in car models graphic making them look incredibly realistically. Forza is best racing simulator ever made!!
For newbie i would give this game : 8 out 10
for people who like racing sim i would give this game : 10 out 10
go read a better review from an editor who knows more about racing sim !
Don't know if that is serious or not, but ROFL either way.
well i have to say, I'm not really a great fan of racing games
However, this does sound interesting, a realistic(ish) racing sim (aslong as you don't piss around with customisations too much, and use a steering wheel) is actually quite interesting (i wonder how much it would affect your real world driving :o)
But it does sound a bit disappointing in terms of graphics, but i guess they are constrained by the 360's hardware, so there may not be a lot they can do about it
Personally, a PC version would be good, and arguments about legacy hardware or whatever is a bit futile, if your PC meets the recommended specs, i think that should be enough, hell i know lots of people who do "pro" gaming who will significantly lower their settings to get an edge, they prefer the loss of fidelity for the illusion of better "speed"
Anyway, try and keep it civil, express your opinion, but don't just outright bash other peoples, its interesting to read what everyone thinks
Woah some people are getting a bit too bent out of shape over a game review. Personally I stopped trusting the opinion of games reviewers years ago - even the mighty EDGE. I actually bought this on the strength of the word of mouth feedback it was getting on a few car forums I frequent, rather than games sites or tech forums. At the end of the day, it's a review based on one persons opinion, and as far as I can tell, there's nothing that suggests this opinion is gospel truth or anything. Chill.
I've already babbled on about this game elsewhere in this forum, so I'll keep it short. It's a driving game, not a sim, a game. If you play it with this in mind, then you will love it. It's about as close to GT on a non-Sony console as you will get, and for me that's good enough. The graphics range from pretty-ish, to fairly unattractive, but it's the handling and customisation available that makes it such a great GAMEPLAY experience imho.
I'd like to know if people are comparing the graphics to what is achievable on the PC, or are they comparing them to what the 360 can do? Compare Forza 2 with the current driving games available on the console, and to be quite frank, it wets all over them.
As a simulator, you can't really compare it to GTR2, for example, because GTR2 is quite the specialist game. However, taken into account the enormous number of cars in the game, and the fact that you can modify, upgrade and tune every single one of them, I think that Turn 10 have done a superb job.
Sure, it drives a little bit easy (especially if you are playing with all the driving aids on), but if you want to eek out that extra half second on your lap record, then the game gets VERY hard to drive. It's not just about putting a car on the circuit and driving as fast as you can - it's about fitting upgrades to your car, taking it for a drive, tuning your car, taking it for a drive, tuning your car, etc. This is where Forza 2 is the winner in my opinion.
I think perhaps the 7/10 review mark was a little harsh, because it really is the flagship racing simulator on the Xbox at this time. However, it's definately not a 10/10, because there is just that little 'something' that is missing. Not sure what that might be, but the game doesn't suck you in and make your eyes water because you haven't blinked for 10 minutes, like some games can do.
This game is much more deserved of an 8, or 8.5 out of 10 mark.
I bought it yesterday and played the first 15 races and loving it. I then went onto 2 player split screen with my bro which was fun.
The one thing that really ticks me off with racing games is that when you get home like me and the first thing you do is play 2 player to find only 3 cars and 1 track available because you have to play single player first to unlock it all.
However Forza 2 is different. There are only a few cars locked and you can just jump right in with hundreds of cars to choose and tracks and get racing. nice one Forza team.
I dont get what people are complaining about the AI and graphics??? It looks great and AI drive much better than other games. They are not glued to the racing line but instead spin off on corners or move aside if you have the line and in front etc.
Im loving the game and cant wait to get home to unlock more races. I using the mini cooper and the cars I won for tracks that the cooper doesnt qualify for. Im not into moding my cars to make them faster, ill be tacking my cooper as far as I can before buying a new car.
Im using the Wheel and find it a great drive compare to PGR3, but I use the joypad for split screen as the the game feels so different in split screen.
Id give it a 9/10 as it is by far the best racing game on 360. I have been looking for a simulator and this is it as I hate the crap like NFS and street racing. I want tracks, and is there any news of a TOCA on 360??? or any F1 game???
I'm just gonna wait for PGR4 because PGR3 was a good game. Novice and Medium Modes were WAY too easy, but HARD was a good challenge and more than enough for me tbh, so hardcore I just left for a time when I am too bored to play any other games.....Forza 1 was a good game I must admit, especially with the customization and online play, but I was expecting exactly what the reviewer wrote so it came as no shock to me.
I would read other reviews though before getting all bent-out-of-shape with this one review....
I thought he had good points and I will take them into consideration.....
The one thing that really ticks me off with racing games is that when you get home like me and the first thing you do is play 2 player to find only 3 cars and 1 track available because you have to play single player first to unlock it all.
However Forza 2 is different. There are only a few cars locked and you can just jump right in with hundreds of cars to choose and tracks and get racing. nice one Forza team.
Oh, I hate games like that. I bought Burnout Revenge to play with my girlfriend (her favorite genre is racing) only to find that I have to play through the single player to unlock the multiplayer content. She's interested in Forza 2 though, so this is good news. I'll have to pick it up.
Originally Posted by Faunus I'd like to know if people are comparing the graphics to what is achievable on the PC, or are they comparing them to what the 360 can do? Compare Forza 2 with the current driving games available on the console, and to be quite frank, it wets all over them.
Sorry but PGR3 (an 18month old?) game still looks miles better. Not to mention NFSCarbon, and DiRT. Even Test Drive Unlimited, which I thought looked a little... strange, is nicer on the eye imho. I've not judged this against PC titles as I don't play a whole lot of PC games these days. It just looks like one of those games that falls between generations of consoles.
Originally Posted by mookboy Sorry but PGR3 (an 18month old?) game still looks miles better. Not to mention NFSCarbon, and DiRT. Even Test Drive Unlimited, which I thought looked a little... strange, is nicer on the eye
now thats just being mean, I tried Forza2 for a bit and being a complete petrol head i just wasn't impressed, within 30 mins I was back smashing up the world in DiRT (which imho looks FAR better on the pc with some decent gear)
Originally Posted by Gunsmith now thats just being mean, I tried Forza2 for a bit and being a complete petrol head i just wasn't impressed, within 30 mins I was back smashing up the world in DiRT (which imho looks FAR better on the pc with some decent gear)
You call yourself a petrol head yet you were more interested in the graphics than the driving experience?
Originally Posted by tuteja1986 Your review sucks :(
I don't think the reviewer is racing simulator buff so he doesn't understand racing sim genera. Also when you play online, play with people you know. You don't want a dick to enter the race and run you off the road. So really play with people you know that wouldn't **** around. Also i don't one person i play with who likes their wireless steering wheel who all bought it for forza. The wheel has a design flaw as you can't do a 180 with degree of accuracy as the wheel can't be turned either fully. Also i am sick of the graphic statement.. some tracks have medicore graphic but other are way better. Forza team spent more time in car models graphic making them look incredibly realistically. Forza is best racing simulator ever made!!
For newbie i would give this game : 8 out 10
for people who like racing sim i would give this game : 10 out 10
go read a better review from an editor who knows more about racing sim !
Obviously you've never played GT Legends. Forza 2 loks like NFS: UNdeground 2 compared to GT Legends.
I have a feeling what you said is a little, biased. "Best Racing simulator ever made" is a bit of an overstatement. Anything by Simbin on the PC blows Forza away without even breaking a sweat.
I've played both demo and full version. Anti-Aliasing is horrid in some places, sometimes worse then the demo.
Seriously, make sure you proof-read what you say before you post. Not being an ***hole or anything, but when you start out a post with "your review sucks" and then back it by saying "the wheel has a design flaw because you can't 180 easily" and by saying " it's the best simulator ever made," not sure people are gonna take what you say too seriously...
Oh, and I'm sure bindi has played his fair share of sim racing titles. So saying he doesn.t knwo about them is kinda unfounded.
/rant
Ok sorry, I had to say that. I hope no one is mad, but seriously, after reading that post, I needed to say something.
Like I said I have played the demo and retail versions and wasn't really impressed by either. Yeah there was fun to be had and some things are really cool (engines swaps, Polyphony are you listening????) but overall there just wasn't much there to make me wanna buy this game. It's not a bad time when played with buddies, but if I want a sim racing game I'll fire up Nascar 2003 (or any Papyrus Nascar title at that) or I'll play some GT Legends or any other racer by simbin.
Forza 3 had better learn from 2's mistakes. There was a lot fo great potential to be had, but 90% of it was unrealized
Originally Posted by Jamie However, I am constantly being rear ended or my rear corner nudged out of the way spinning me out which is totally wrong. You can also prevent yourself from being overtaken by blocking.
I was thinking about this again. I used to be a game AI programmer and from this point of view (and to keep my skills up) i was trying to figure out how i'd do it.
First thing i realised is that these two points are conflicting: to reduce blocking you have to increase aggressiveness and thus potentially willingness to touch from behind in order to force a pass. To prevent the touching from behind you have to make the cpu more tentative in which case blocking becomes far easier.
It's a difficult one to solve and i think that if you're complaining about both effects they're getting the balance kind of right. Try it between two humans (of similar skill levels) - one player has to overtake without touching in a slightly more powerful car the other can block constantly and i think you'd end up with a similar experience.
Why are people comparing the Forza 2 on 360 with games on PC????? Its a console and less powerfull then what a PC can be. Doesnt take a fool to see that racing games on pc will look far better than a games console that can not be upgraded. Also there are more and better hardware available in terms of wheels for the PC which dont have any real restrictions and more support in games for any control method on pc.
Forza 2 iss the best racing game on 360 and only simulator. PGR3 is an arcade racer and you can just fly round the track with your foot down. Need for speed games are just plain naff and burn out is completley different.
compare a PC game with a PC game and and Xbox 360 game with a 360 game or even the PS3.
Originally Posted by mookboy Sorry but PGR3 (an 18month old?) game still looks miles better.
Are you playing in HD? Because if you aren't then I could probably understand your statement here. Either that, or you are blind!
I did a blind test (kinda) with a friend, who is a big PGR3 fan. He played Forza 2 for an hour or so, and decided that he preferred PGR3 because it looked nicer. The look of disbelief on his face when he saw PGR3 on 1080p compared to Forza 2 on 1080p - Forza 2 pukes all over PGR3 at high resolution, hands down.
I think the review goes a little harsh on the game actually. Whilst the jaggies are slightly annoying the car models are still nice and the tracks look pretty good too.
Yes if you do grab the quickest car and play against Lotus Elise it gets a bit silly, but then all you have to do is race in a more approriate car. GT has the same downside (remember the Escudos Pikes Peak), but at least Forza forces you to use a larger variety of cars. Oh and btw, I looked for Ford in the Country they are from: USA ;)
I like the game as a fun game, not as a racing sim.
" Forza 2 is happy to let you more than double the power and torque output of your car without forcing you to, say, upgrade your drives shafts or your clutch, or even your gearbox."
what a load of it. There are 3 levels of upgrade for almost every car in these fields. If someone would take time to read what he is upgrading, then one would find out that the upgrade spec involve a lot of strengthening.
Anyone who goes for a stage 3 turbo over an adjustable gearbox on forza 2 when they begin modding thier car has rocks in their heads.
Agreed about the AI, but you cant have everything. The graphics may not be as good as gt5 (dah) butthe physics on forza are as real as any game, if you think its unrealistic, go and drive a car on a race track.
Its suspension models are real to life, tyre levels are real to life. Its brilliant.
Also, if you find yourself miles ahead all the time, stop playing on easy! bump up the difficulty, turn off some driver aids--- stop being so scared of loosing. These comments are aimed at the reviewer and are no way intended in response to anyone who has posted.
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Btw, in go-karting it's even more normal to use gas and brake at the same time.. But that's different I guess..
I don't think the reviewer is racing simulator buff so he doesn't understand racing sim genera. Also when you play online, play with people you know. You don't want a dick to enter the race and run you off the road. So really play with people you know that wouldn't **** around. Also i don't one person i play with who likes their wireless steering wheel who all bought it for forza. The wheel has a design flaw as you can't do a 180 with degree of accuracy as the wheel can't be turned either fully. Also i am sick of the graphic statement.. some tracks have medicore graphic but other are way better. Forza team spent more time in car models graphic making them look incredibly realistically. Forza is best racing simulator ever made!!
For newbie i would give this game : 8 out 10
for people who like racing sim i would give this game : 10 out 10
go read a better review from an editor who knows more about racing sim !
I do hear a lot of people complaining about the lack of challenge, when really, the lack of challenge isn't down to the game but the driver, you don't have to max out your car, but people grab the best car possible and then are surprised that they leave their opponents behind.
I'm not denying the graphical flaws are there, but I'd rather have a few jaggies than have a stuttering game. IMO, graphics aren't all that important, and I think Forza's graphics are perfectly acceptable, I think too many people slate games nowerdays because they haven't got better graphics than any game released before it.
But I do praise you for not glossing over the bad points, all too often reviewers find that they like the game, then give only praise and gloss over any downfalls (and in a similar way, a reviewer might find a game they don't like for some reason and just slag it off, completely ignoring any of it's good points).
Don't know if that is serious or not, but ROFL either way.
However, this does sound interesting, a realistic(ish) racing sim (aslong as you don't piss around with customisations too much, and use a steering wheel) is actually quite interesting (i wonder how much it would affect your real world driving :o)
But it does sound a bit disappointing in terms of graphics, but i guess they are constrained by the 360's hardware, so there may not be a lot they can do about it
Personally, a PC version would be good, and arguments about legacy hardware or whatever is a bit futile, if your PC meets the recommended specs, i think that should be enough, hell i know lots of people who do "pro" gaming who will significantly lower their settings to get an edge, they prefer the loss of fidelity for the illusion of better "speed"
Anyway, try and keep it civil, express your opinion, but don't just outright bash other peoples, its interesting to read what everyone thinks
I've already babbled on about this game elsewhere in this forum, so I'll keep it short. It's a driving game, not a sim, a game. If you play it with this in mind, then you will love it. It's about as close to GT on a non-Sony console as you will get, and for me that's good enough. The graphics range from pretty-ish, to fairly unattractive, but it's the handling and customisation available that makes it such a great GAMEPLAY experience imho.
And that's just another opinion BTW.
As a simulator, you can't really compare it to GTR2, for example, because GTR2 is quite the specialist game. However, taken into account the enormous number of cars in the game, and the fact that you can modify, upgrade and tune every single one of them, I think that Turn 10 have done a superb job.
Sure, it drives a little bit easy (especially if you are playing with all the driving aids on), but if you want to eek out that extra half second on your lap record, then the game gets VERY hard to drive. It's not just about putting a car on the circuit and driving as fast as you can - it's about fitting upgrades to your car, taking it for a drive, tuning your car, taking it for a drive, tuning your car, etc. This is where Forza 2 is the winner in my opinion.
I think perhaps the 7/10 review mark was a little harsh, because it really is the flagship racing simulator on the Xbox at this time. However, it's definately not a 10/10, because there is just that little 'something' that is missing. Not sure what that might be, but the game doesn't suck you in and make your eyes water because you haven't blinked for 10 minutes, like some games can do.
This game is much more deserved of an 8, or 8.5 out of 10 mark.
The one thing that really ticks me off with racing games is that when you get home like me and the first thing you do is play 2 player to find only 3 cars and 1 track available because you have to play single player first to unlock it all.
However Forza 2 is different. There are only a few cars locked and you can just jump right in with hundreds of cars to choose and tracks and get racing. nice one Forza team.
I dont get what people are complaining about the AI and graphics??? It looks great and AI drive much better than other games. They are not glued to the racing line but instead spin off on corners or move aside if you have the line and in front etc.
Im loving the game and cant wait to get home to unlock more races. I using the mini cooper and the cars I won for tracks that the cooper doesnt qualify for. Im not into moding my cars to make them faster, ill be tacking my cooper as far as I can before buying a new car.
Im using the Wheel and find it a great drive compare to PGR3, but I use the joypad for split screen as the the game feels so different in split screen.
Id give it a 9/10 as it is by far the best racing game on 360. I have been looking for a simulator and this is it as I hate the crap like NFS and street racing. I want tracks, and is there any news of a TOCA on 360??? or any F1 game???
I would read other reviews though before getting all bent-out-of-shape with this one review....
I thought he had good points and I will take them into consideration.....
Oh, I hate games like that. I bought Burnout Revenge to play with my girlfriend (her favorite genre is racing) only to find that I have to play through the single player to unlock the multiplayer content. She's interested in Forza 2 though, so this is good news. I'll have to pick it up.
Sorry but PGR3 (an 18month old?) game still looks miles better. Not to mention NFSCarbon, and DiRT. Even Test Drive Unlimited, which I thought looked a little... strange, is nicer on the eye imho. I've not judged this against PC titles as I don't play a whole lot of PC games these days. It just looks like one of those games that falls between generations of consoles.
now thats just being mean, I tried Forza2 for a bit and being a complete petrol head i just wasn't impressed, within 30 mins I was back smashing up the world in DiRT (which imho looks FAR better on the pc with some decent gear)
You call yourself a petrol head yet you were more interested in the graphics than the driving experience?
Obviously you've never played GT Legends. Forza 2 loks like NFS: UNdeground 2 compared to GT Legends.
I have a feeling what you said is a little, biased. "Best Racing simulator ever made" is a bit of an overstatement. Anything by Simbin on the PC blows Forza away without even breaking a sweat.
I've played both demo and full version. Anti-Aliasing is horrid in some places, sometimes worse then the demo.
Seriously, make sure you proof-read what you say before you post. Not being an ***hole or anything, but when you start out a post with "your review sucks" and then back it by saying "the wheel has a design flaw because you can't 180 easily" and by saying " it's the best simulator ever made," not sure people are gonna take what you say too seriously...
Oh, and I'm sure bindi has played his fair share of sim racing titles. So saying he doesn.t knwo about them is kinda unfounded.
/rant
Ok sorry, I had to say that. I hope no one is mad, but seriously, after reading that post, I needed to say something.
Like I said I have played the demo and retail versions and wasn't really impressed by either. Yeah there was fun to be had and some things are really cool (engines swaps, Polyphony are you listening????) but overall there just wasn't much there to make me wanna buy this game. It's not a bad time when played with buddies, but if I want a sim racing game I'll fire up Nascar 2003 (or any Papyrus Nascar title at that) or I'll play some GT Legends or any other racer by simbin.
Forza 3 had better learn from 2's mistakes. There was a lot fo great potential to be had, but 90% of it was unrealized
I was thinking about this again. I used to be a game AI programmer and from this point of view (and to keep my skills up) i was trying to figure out how i'd do it.
First thing i realised is that these two points are conflicting: to reduce blocking you have to increase aggressiveness and thus potentially willingness to touch from behind in order to force a pass. To prevent the touching from behind you have to make the cpu more tentative in which case blocking becomes far easier.
It's a difficult one to solve and i think that if you're complaining about both effects they're getting the balance kind of right. Try it between two humans (of similar skill levels) - one player has to overtake without touching in a slightly more powerful car the other can block constantly and i think you'd end up with a similar experience.
Forza 2 iss the best racing game on 360 and only simulator. PGR3 is an arcade racer and you can just fly round the track with your foot down. Need for speed games are just plain naff and burn out is completley different.
compare a PC game with a PC game and and Xbox 360 game with a 360 game or even the PS3.
Are you playing in HD? Because if you aren't then I could probably understand your statement here. Either that, or you are blind!
I did a blind test (kinda) with a friend, who is a big PGR3 fan. He played Forza 2 for an hour or so, and decided that he preferred PGR3 because it looked nicer. The look of disbelief on his face when he saw PGR3 on 1080p compared to Forza 2 on 1080p - Forza 2 pukes all over PGR3 at high resolution, hands down.
Yes if you do grab the quickest car and play against Lotus Elise it gets a bit silly, but then all you have to do is race in a more approriate car. GT has the same downside (remember the Escudos Pikes Peak), but at least Forza forces you to use a larger variety of cars. Oh and btw, I looked for Ford in the Country they are from: USA ;)
I like the game as a fun game, not as a racing sim.
what a load of it. There are 3 levels of upgrade for almost every car in these fields. If someone would take time to read what he is upgrading, then one would find out that the upgrade spec involve a lot of strengthening.
Anyone who goes for a stage 3 turbo over an adjustable gearbox on forza 2 when they begin modding thier car has rocks in their heads.
Agreed about the AI, but you cant have everything. The graphics may not be as good as gt5 (dah) butthe physics on forza are as real as any game, if you think its unrealistic, go and drive a car on a race track.
Its suspension models are real to life, tyre levels are real to life. Its brilliant.
Also, if you find yourself miles ahead all the time, stop playing on easy! bump up the difficulty, turn off some driver aids--- stop being so scared of loosing. These comments are aimed at the reviewer and are no way intended in response to anyone who has posted.
lol maybe they used the search or just happened upon the review from google? :p