W00t first commenter and possibly first reader! Anyway, good article. I might buy a DeathAdder myself at some stage, but I don't like the fact that the top part curves so high. If they could make a mouse that was flatter, and less curved, my fingers would be happy. Smaller companies are getting much better these days when it comes to mice :)
Yeah, we love the Deathadder in the office and I've had to fight to keep hold of the one we were sent. Looking side on the top does look quite high, but tbh when you're using it it isn't noticeable as it slots comfortably into the palm.
I have a Deathadder. Awesome mouse. Before it I had a Copperhead, yet it started to fail. No problem as Razer has a 2 year warranty and replaced it. I then upgraded to the Deathadder, it is on the pricey side but no other mouse I've ever used comes close to it. Well worth the price IMHO.
I use a G7 at home (poncing about with weights inside a G5 seems silly to me, besides the G7 is a perfect weight) and yeah I have to say I miss a secondary thumb button on that. I also prefer the G7 lookswise to the Razer somehow, mainly because it goes well with my G15 keyboard.
Originally Posted by CardJoe Yeah, we love the Deathadder in the office and I've had to fight to keep hold of the one we were sent. Looking side on the top does look quite high, but tbh when you're using it it isn't noticeable as it slots comfortably into the palm.
Is it bulky, like an MX1000? I like mouse with my fingers. I might just go for a Diamondback.
Originally Posted by lamboman Is it bulky, like an MX1000? I like mouse with my fingers. I might just go for a Diamondback.
Depends what you mean by bulky, as i'm not a fingertip gamer (my, how that could be interpretted!) I kind of like how bulky it is. Which isn't to say it's too bulky for fingertip users. I don't *think* it would be too massive, but it was definitely built with palm geeks in mind.
One of the good things about the Razer is that the buttons are responsive from fairly far back too, meaning you can have your fingertips back behind the scrollwheel a fair bit and still easily use the buttons.
That said I traditionally haven't liked Razer, as I said in the article, because I generally find them too flat for me - so theres bound to be a Razer for you!
I'm liking the more regular inclusion of group tests onto the site. Would've been nice to see the Razer DeathAdder compared to the Logitech G5 (arguably the best gaming mouse around at the moment) which is around the £40 mark, too.
Originally Posted by Review hardcore gamers are usually divided pretty starkly between Logitech and Razer products
Wouldnt say this is quite true, most CS players i know who play in competitive tournaments both online and LANs either use the original Microsoft intelli mouse explorer 3.0 or the new one, also find this applys to other games I occasionally play such as BF2, UT, Q3 etc. I myself had a logitech mx 518 found it horrible sold it and went back to my intelli.
you guys could have included the G5 just for comparison's sake. It stands out as a really major flaw in the article that one of the two major gaming mice is there but the other isn't.
Too bad I'm a leftie. I'd be tempted to mod a Deathadder or Habu to work for me but I'm a bit terrified of ruining a mouse that expensive.
(Just almost ruined my current mouse by trying to change the led. All worked fine until I tried to clip off the excess leads from the led; A part of the circuit tore right off. After some frantic soldering it now works again but I don't dare touch it before I get a backup.)
Originally Posted by Javerh Too bad I'm a leftie. I'd be tempted to mod a Deathadder or Habu to work for me but I'm a bit terrified of ruining a mouse that expensive.
(Just almost ruined my current mouse by trying to change the led. All worked fine until I tried to clip off the excess leads from the led; A part of the circuit tore right off. After some frantic soldering it now works again but I don't dare touch it before I get a backup.)
IIRC my old Copperhead was ambi, it had 2 thumb buttons on the other side.
I've got an MX resalution, and after testing out some of the mice you've got there ( i went into a big shop in Den Haag), the MX was by far the nicest.
Originally Posted by lamboman Is it bulky, like an MX1000? I like mouse with my fingers. I might just go for a Diamondback.
The Copperhead is a little nicer than the Diamondback but not quite as flat. The difference is minuscule bit I did feel it at first.
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Originally Posted by Javerh Too bad I'm a leftie. I'd be tempted to mod a Deathadder or Habu to work for me but I'm a bit terrified of ruining a mouse that expensive.
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I know exactly what you mean. I too have looked at modding several gaming mice but even if I did it without wrecking anything it might end up having to be bulkier - it's almost like trying to mod a laptop. :'(
As far as I know the Copperhead is the best gaming mouse that lefties can use - but It's still NOT a lefty mouse. :(
Anybody have the OCZ equalizer? or atleast have any of you bit-tech employees tested it with CS (CS:S or 1.6)
I am just curious how good/bad it is in CS, because that seems like it could be very useful for m4 bursts and even medium range ak shots (depending on the delay between each of the 3 clicks)
EDIT: on the deathadder, how is it size wise? i've personally always found small mice like that to be a pain when playing for extended periods.. (it looks like the logitech 310 I think it is, which was a small small mouse )
Originally Posted by Bluephoenix you guys could have included the G5 just for comparison's sake. It stands out as a really major flaw in the article that one of the two major gaming mice is there but the other isn't.
Ditto. I still haven't seen a Bit-Tech review with a logitech mouse yet. :( (Although I haven't checked recently).
I myself prefer the MX518, the placement of the buttons is perfect, (except the alt-tab, but I never use that.)
The resolutions are perfect, 400 for sniping, 800 for chasing people with knifes or guns, and 1600 for faster responses from tanks and AAs.
Never liked the Razers
I'm left-handed. I've been using an MX518 for quite a while, but when it breaks, I'm going to get the MX 610 left-hand edition. I'm not the biggest fan of wireless mice, but seriously ticking off anyone who tries to use my PC is so worth it. I love my 518, though. Light as a feather, slick as greased ice, and generally perfect for FPS action.
I'm with r4tch3t, I've never liked the Razers. They're too flat for my mousing style, they make my hand cramp up.
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edit just checked they have now added a 2nd one on it
If only the Deathadder was wireless...
Yeah, they addedd the second on for Rev. 2 with that horrible art. :'(
Depends what you mean by bulky, as i'm not a fingertip gamer (my, how that could be interpretted!) I kind of like how bulky it is. Which isn't to say it's too bulky for fingertip users. I don't *think* it would be too massive, but it was definitely built with palm geeks in mind.
One of the good things about the Razer is that the buttons are responsive from fairly far back too, meaning you can have your fingertips back behind the scrollwheel a fair bit and still easily use the buttons.
That said I traditionally haven't liked Razer, as I said in the article, because I generally find them too flat for me - so theres bound to be a Razer for you!
http://www.a4tech.com/en/product1.asp?CID=102&SCID=103
£20?
find out if they are licensed. £35, for a £20 mouse is a bit of a ripoff.
Wouldnt say this is quite true, most CS players i know who play in competitive tournaments both online and LANs either use the original Microsoft intelli mouse explorer 3.0 or the new one, also find this applys to other games I occasionally play such as BF2, UT, Q3 etc. I myself had a logitech mx 518 found it horrible sold it and went back to my intelli.
Still the best mouse ever designed imo
(Just almost ruined my current mouse by trying to change the led. All worked fine until I tried to clip off the excess leads from the led; A part of the circuit tore right off. After some frantic soldering it now works again but I don't dare touch it before I get a backup.)
IIRC my old Copperhead was ambi, it had 2 thumb buttons on the other side.
My advice, save up and get an MX.
As far as I know the Copperhead is the best gaming mouse that lefties can use - but It's still NOT a lefty mouse. :(
I am just curious how good/bad it is in CS, because that seems like it could be very useful for m4 bursts and even medium range ak shots (depending on the delay between each of the 3 clicks)
EDIT: on the deathadder, how is it size wise? i've personally always found small mice like that to be a pain when playing for extended periods.. (it looks like the logitech 310 I think it is, which was a small small mouse )
Ditto. I still haven't seen a Bit-Tech review with a logitech mouse yet. :( (Although I haven't checked recently).
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2006/05/25/mice_mat_group_test/2.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/02/08/logitech_mx_revolution_mouse/1.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2006/12/07/Gaming_Mouse_Group_Test/5.html
The resolutions are perfect, 400 for sniping, 800 for chasing people with knifes or guns, and 1600 for faster responses from tanks and AAs.
Never liked the Razers
I'm with r4tch3t, I've never liked the Razers. They're too flat for my mousing style, they make my hand cramp up.