btw the air-drop system isnt really new, its what GC and GC2 had and its pretty damn good tbh
you dont have to worry about getting resources and building ****, you can just concentrate on pwning your enemies :p
We didn't get to see any DX9 content, but based on what I've seen of other DX10 games, the DX9 path won't be able to get close what is being rendered in DX10 without it being pig slow. We'll be having a profound look at DX9/DX10 differences as and when we get these games in-house. ;)
Looks like great gameplay and great graphics together, can't be bad :p
On the other hand I just recently got myself the 7900 graphics card, that's obviously built around DX9 and probably not DX10 capable, is this going to be a problem with alot of the other games being released in the near future? :(
I remember seeing the demo video from Nvidia's website, just after the 8800 launch. Couldn't believe my eyes, during certain points. Took me a while to notice the seams on certain effects.
Truly awesome graphics. If they can pull off the gameplay and sound, this may be the game to finally get me playing strategies again.
well holy crap..this sounds like it could be right up my alley.. and im generally not a fan of *modern-day* RTS's ..but wow.. the new game mechanics sound like they could be LOTS of fun!! Thanks for the preview!!
Looks really nice actually, the screens actually kind of remind me a bit of Operation: Flashpoint (no, I don't know why), which aint a bad thing. Nice to have a preview of a game only coming out in the spring, as oppose to 2 years time (damn you Spore for getting me so excited so soon!)
How much for Vista and a video card upgrade to get DX10?
And I still have to buy the game. Great, thanks I will just toss my year old card out the window.
Thanks Microsoft.
That PS3 is starting to look better and better.
Originally Posted by sheepdog This is what is killing computer gaming.
How much for Vista and a video card upgrade to get DX10?
And I still have to buy the game. Great, thanks I will just toss my year old card out the window.
Thanks Microsoft.
Or.... you could play it with the DX9 path (which I'm sure looks pretty amazing, if not on par with the DX10) until your next upgrade cycle.
What you're saying is effectively the same as moaning about a broadcaster starting to broadcast in HD alongside standard def and saying that it "forces" you to buy a brand new HDTV. So long as backwards compatibility is there, you're not losing out by using old hardware, you're just missing out on the extras that are there for the taking for those who choose to upgrade.
Though in my old age I find these kind of games ethically wrong, in the sense of keeping old wars modern. There's actually alot about games that bothers me as they did not in the past. I was seven years old when Doom came out and 10 when C&C did (I was religious in my playing time), needless to say these are not healthy games for kids, however pointing a finger at an entire nation of people from any age and saying: "these are our enemies" is just insane. Weather it's nameless terrorists, a long sought rival, or demonic hordes... "It's just not healthy"
^ I'm guessing most people will care less about the parties involved in the game, and more likely just focus on the gameplay.. .is it enjoyable or not, etc
Originally Posted by mclean007 Or.... you could play it with the DX9 path (which I'm sure looks pretty amazing, if not on par with the DX10) until your next upgrade cycle.
What you're saying is effectively the same as moaning about a broadcaster starting to broadcast in HD alongside standard def and saying that it "forces" you to buy a brand new HDTV. So long as backwards compatibility is there, you're not losing out by using old hardware, you're just missing out on the extras that are there for the taking for those who choose to upgrade.
Some people will grumble about anything!
I am not pissed about backwards compatibility, and I am not angry they used DX10.
I am angry because I bought a near top of the line video card less than a year ago and now have to do it again. What happened to Microsoft's 10 year lifecycle?
And I highly doubt the DX9 will look as good, if it did, what would be the point of Dx10.
Looks wicked and I like the sound of the resource management in the game.
Though I'm enjoying C&C3 atm but its about time the genre had a shakeup. :)
There's a typo too.
"Atmospherics, as you might have guessed, are crucial to the game and Massive is keen to drawn the player into the game not just through gameplay".
Should be 'draw' not 'drawn'. :)
btw the air-drop system isnt really new, its what GC and GC2 had and its pretty damn good tbh
you dont have to worry about getting resources and building ****, you can just concentrate on pwning your enemies :p
Isnt this made by the same company as them two as I was about to point out the same thing.
Originally Posted by sheepdog I am not pissed about backwards compatibility, and I am not angry they used DX10.
I am angry because I bought a near top of the line video card less than a year ago and now have to do it again. What happened to Microsoft's 10 year lifecycle?
AFAIK Microsoft have never had a 10 year cycle normally 3 - 5 year cycle.
To be honest its not Microsofts fault your "top of the line" card last year isnt able to run the latest version of DirectX. Vista has been coming for the last year or so, you could have bought a lesser spec card and waited for the DX10 cards to come out.
I happily welcome DX10, to me there has not been a graphical leap forward in games for some years, yes the textures get higher res and games get prettier but there is wow factor so to speak and ok DX10 will give that and yes it needs a new OS to run on, new hardware but Vista has been 5 - 6 years in the making, that is a long time for the DirectX API's to remain the same
Originally Posted by Nikumba AFAIK Microsoft have never had a 10 year cycle normally 3 - 5 year cycle.
To be honest its not Microsofts fault your "top of the line" card last year isnt able to run the latest version of DirectX. Vista has been coming for the last year or so, you could have bought a lesser spec card and waited for the DX10 cards to come out.
I happily welcome DX10, to me there has not been a graphical leap forward in games for some years, yes the textures get higher res and games get prettier but there is wow factor so to speak and ok DX10 will give that and yes it needs a new OS to run on, new hardware but Vista has been 5 - 6 years in the making, that is a long time for the DirectX API's to remain the same
Kimbie
Vista has been coming for the last 5 years, not one.
Read Microsoft's own documentation claims 10 years. Besides that, they have never abandoned an OS as soon as it is replaced. They usually have a 2-3 year overlap. In fact how long ago was it that they finally stopped updating 98?
If Vista had been out 2 years ago, I could understand dropping XP support now, but dropping it the moment Vista is released is a bit much.
I knew when I bought the card it did not support DX10, however there is no reason the OS, only out of date by 3 months cannot be updated. If you buy a car or printer or anything else, your support does not stop the moment newer model is released.
Actually, none of it should be shocking. Nvidia and Creative both schemed to screw over their customers by forcing an upgrade, and it is not like Microsoft has the best reputation anyhow.
XP is still supported by Microsoft
they just havent released dx10 for XP, it sucks but i find it extremely unlikely MS will go back on what they've said and release dx10 for xp :(
game looks cool, but I'm not too hot on the alternate history bit. I am also curious to see how they handle unit control and the UI, cuz lately, I've seen some really good and really bad RTS UIs. Supreme Commander and Company of Heroes nailed the UI (though I must admit, it took a couple patches for the former to get rid of the rather hideous standard UI) but C&C3's "old school" UI just messed with all known and common key bindings for me, not to mention doing to rather strange bit of only allowing one command per key. RTS keybinding should ALWAYS be contextually bound, because hunt and peck across the keyboard is not a good way to win the game.
the lack of DX10 on XP could be due to something different about the code caused by Vista's completely re-written nature. (in other words maybe it just won't work)
If that is the case then it is understandable; technological progress comes with a price.
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btw the air-drop system isnt really new, its what GC and GC2 had and its pretty damn good tbh
you dont have to worry about getting resources and building ****, you can just concentrate on pwning your enemies :p
On the other hand I just recently got myself the 7900 graphics card, that's obviously built around DX9 and probably not DX10 capable, is this going to be a problem with alot of the other games being released in the near future? :(
It's probably going to need Quad Core though like Supreme Commander, should you want all the trimming though?
I remember seeing the demo video from Nvidia's website, just after the 8800 launch. Couldn't believe my eyes, during certain points. Took me a while to notice the seams on certain effects.
Truly awesome graphics. If they can pull off the gameplay and sound, this may be the game to finally get me playing strategies again.
Now to find £1000 for an upgrade :(
How much for Vista and a video card upgrade to get DX10?
And I still have to buy the game. Great, thanks I will just toss my year old card out the window.
Thanks Microsoft.
That PS3 is starting to look better and better.
What you're saying is effectively the same as moaning about a broadcaster starting to broadcast in HD alongside standard def and saying that it "forces" you to buy a brand new HDTV. So long as backwards compatibility is there, you're not losing out by using old hardware, you're just missing out on the extras that are there for the taking for those who choose to upgrade.
Some people will grumble about anything!
Though in my old age I find these kind of games ethically wrong, in the sense of keeping old wars modern. There's actually alot about games that bothers me as they did not in the past. I was seven years old when Doom came out and 10 when C&C did (I was religious in my playing time), needless to say these are not healthy games for kids, however pointing a finger at an entire nation of people from any age and saying: "these are our enemies" is just insane. Weather it's nameless terrorists, a long sought rival, or demonic hordes... "It's just not healthy"
I am angry because I bought a near top of the line video card less than a year ago and now have to do it again. What happened to Microsoft's 10 year lifecycle?
And I highly doubt the DX9 will look as good, if it did, what would be the point of Dx10.
Though I'm enjoying C&C3 atm but its about time the genre had a shakeup. :)
There's a typo too.
"Atmospherics, as you might have guessed, are crucial to the game and Massive is keen to drawn the player into the game not just through gameplay".
Should be 'draw' not 'drawn'. :)
Isnt this made by the same company as them two as I was about to point out the same thing.
AFAIK Microsoft have never had a 10 year cycle normally 3 - 5 year cycle.
To be honest its not Microsofts fault your "top of the line" card last year isnt able to run the latest version of DirectX. Vista has been coming for the last year or so, you could have bought a lesser spec card and waited for the DX10 cards to come out.
I happily welcome DX10, to me there has not been a graphical leap forward in games for some years, yes the textures get higher res and games get prettier but there is wow factor so to speak and ok DX10 will give that and yes it needs a new OS to run on, new hardware but Vista has been 5 - 6 years in the making, that is a long time for the DirectX API's to remain the same
Kimbie
Read Microsoft's own documentation claims 10 years. Besides that, they have never abandoned an OS as soon as it is replaced. They usually have a 2-3 year overlap. In fact how long ago was it that they finally stopped updating 98?
If Vista had been out 2 years ago, I could understand dropping XP support now, but dropping it the moment Vista is released is a bit much.
I knew when I bought the card it did not support DX10, however there is no reason the OS, only out of date by 3 months cannot be updated. If you buy a car or printer or anything else, your support does not stop the moment newer model is released.
Actually, none of it should be shocking. Nvidia and Creative both schemed to screw over their customers by forcing an upgrade, and it is not like Microsoft has the best reputation anyhow.
they just havent released dx10 for XP, it sucks but i find it extremely unlikely MS will go back on what they've said and release dx10 for xp :(
If that is the case then it is understandable; technological progress comes with a price.