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Goovies: Why games'n'movies don't mix

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GuardianStorm 28th November 2006, 17:31 Quote
Which Final Fantasy movie was it? the Advent Children Movie was waaaay better than The Spirits Within.
glaeken 28th November 2006, 17:35 Quote
:( you left out Demolition Man for SNES, that game was pretty good. The movie was fairly good for an action flick.

One movie that I would love to see made is Rainbow Six. If you could get Ridley Scott to direct and Clancy to be involved, and with a good script, that would be a really good movie(albeit if you liked Black Hawk Down). The script is half-way done anyhow. Tom Clancy's book is still one of the best I've read.
Rav 28th November 2006, 17:45 Quote
Did i hear a rumour that Grim Fandango was being movieified? If not, that could be interesting if done right, as would a bunch of the Lucas Arts adventures of yore.

Edit: Damn, Wiki tells me it was a hoax ... still, one can dream.
supermonkey 28th November 2006, 17:49 Quote
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(how can someone act with a helmet on… ignore Robocop).
Good question. You could always ask David Prowse how he pulled it off. :p

Interesting article, though you forgot to mention Kindom Hearts. Though not necessarily based on a movie, it is based on movie characters, incorporating the Disney world into a video game.

I think a good Goovie is possible, it just needs to be well made. The suspension of belief works on two different levels in movies and video games. For some reason, movies are accepted as probable slice of reality, even if we know full well that the story is unreal. In video games, we are much more willing to accept something truly bizarre. To wit: a game in which the sole premise is to fight a string of characters until you reach the boss.

I don't think it's just user interaction that seperates the two genres. I think the central story is the key factor. Big name actors might work to draw in the initial audience, but a good story, with believable characters, will win out over the long term. At the moment, studios have rushed to throw out movies or games because that particular franchise is the "in" thing, with no real thought to the substance of the thing itself.

Consider the Lord of the Rings games. It is arguably one of the greatest stories ever written, but the games were mediocre despite the user interactivity.

-monkey
glaeken 28th November 2006, 18:05 Quote
I thought the Battle for Middle Earth was a pretty good rts.
Marquee 28th November 2006, 18:18 Quote
Good Job matt-117. Do you work for some movie company or you have links?
riggs 28th November 2006, 18:21 Quote
How about Castlevania? That'd be pretty cool.
pendragon 28th November 2006, 18:21 Quote
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was imho a huge mistake on Square's part.. if they had released Advent Children first they'd be ROLLING in dough... as it is, The Spirits Within was a decent film imho .... it just had nothing to do with the Final Fantasy series.. which is why I think it bombed
Faulk_Wulf 28th November 2006, 18:43 Quote
Why does Microsoft neeed finacial backing for a movie? Gates coudl drop in $1 billion and not even blink, let alone Micro$oft as a COMPANY. So I don't get why they need more money. But whatever.

PS: I would have used Advent Children as an example, along with Last Order. As these are a better example of FF titles and show that SquareSoft/Square-Enix learned from their mistakes.
supermonkey 28th November 2006, 18:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by glaeken
I thought the Battle for Middle Earth was a pretty good rts.
Battle for Middle Earth was decent enough, but I lost interest after a few missions. I was thinking of the direct movie-to-game translations that I played on the PS2. They really were rather poor.

-monkey
TheSaladMan 28th November 2006, 19:00 Quote
Good article, but you forgot Silent Hill, which is THE best game movie ever, sticks to the game's story mostly but changes it to make it fit as a movie.
plug_in_ross 28th November 2006, 19:22 Quote
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Movie versions of Metal Gear Solid, Max Payne, Gears Of War, Splinter Cell and Driver have all been confirmed somewhere along the line.

They shouldn't make MGS into a movie, the game is basically a movie in it's own right.

I remember a long while ago reading on Games Central (Channel 4 Teletext B) ) that someone was making a Crazy Taxi movie. This actually correct?
Bindibadgi 28th November 2006, 19:22 Quote
Actually, yes, that's true. It was as best an adaptation as you can get considering they condensed a few games into 2½ hours of movie. I sat there the whole time going "SH1.. 2.. 1... 3?!... 2.... 1..." :D:D Much fun, although probably lost of those who aren't a fan of the games.
acron^ 28th November 2006, 19:26 Quote
I think Clock Tower would make a good film!
Ramble 28th November 2006, 19:57 Quote
Solitaire - the film.

When do I get my prize?
DXR_13KE 28th November 2006, 19:59 Quote
counter strike the movie!!!!! with 1337 h4x0rz!!!! and uber n00bs!!!!
CowBlazed 28th November 2006, 20:01 Quote
Movie based on the Gothic games?
CraZy 28th November 2006, 20:02 Quote
oh DOA rocked but all that moaning was a little to much, was I the only one that got the feeling that some of the moaning was editid in afterwards ?.. haha
mikeuk2004 28th November 2006, 20:06 Quote
I love Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy and I liked it when Doom went 3rd person, that was great and different.
overdosedelusion 28th November 2006, 20:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
counter strike the movie!!!!! with 1337 h4x0rz!!!! and uber n00bs!!!!

LMAO.. just LMAO
l.moore 28th November 2006, 20:29 Quote
Hello,

I think the reason why games and movies don't cross over so well, is because of the way everyone interacts differently with each of them. (obvious i know)

In a movie, most people will see each character alittle differently based on their own experiences, but the story will still play out exactly the same. If the characters are strong enough, this won't be a problem. In a regular game however, there is no fully concrete personality for the characters (except for a brief story in the game manual and/or in-game movies), so the personality of a character is complemented by the gamers own personality and gaming style. So if a gamer is playing a charcter which already has a complete identy (defined by Movie(s)) and the game doesn't reflect this expected feeling (which most of them don't), then the gamer is left lacking, a feeling which was experienced while watching the film. (wasn't that matrix game the biggest let-down EVER)
On the other side, if a Gamer goes to see a film with an expectation (which will most likely differ from other gamers) then most of the time people are left thinking they want the last 2 hours of there life back, because the film has to be more linear then a game. Most people going to see the movie will have a different expectation depending on how they felt while playing the game. This i think makes it a lot more difficult to make a movie from a game rather then a game from a movie. I could be wrong.

I think Exile and Elite (BBC Micro) might make good Game to movie releases. Both had resonable story lines (for a 11 year old anyway), which came with the game as a 30 page mini-novel, which gave a little bit of storyline/history.
overdosedelusion 28th November 2006, 20:32 Quote
silent hill is great, although its kind of a bit drab towards the end, but still the best adaptation in "goovie" history!!! and the barbed wire rape thing just brings a whole new definition to chlamydia that i hope never to experience *shivvers*
Bindibadgi 28th November 2006, 20:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ramble
Solitaire - the film.

When do I get my prize?

So, you mean Casino Royale but where Bond plays on his own?
-equilerex- 28th November 2006, 20:52 Quote
heh, Silent hill was awesome indeed, the a lot of ppl dont like the end but they probably didnt think that there will be a sequel..

read somewhere that halo was canceled/pulled back thanks to a noob director and huge costs, not sure about it though.

But i would say, most game based movies have been quite interesting, most are well worth a watch.

cant understand how advent children can be better then spirits within though, its storyline was rather pointless, they tryed to make as less backround as possible in every scene (looping backround, some kind of fields all the time (the motorcycle desert, the woods, the flowers durning a fight in that old building etc. not so good movie for someone who havent played the game imo.
Blademrk 28th November 2006, 21:08 Quote
Advent Children was definitily a movie for the fans.
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