damn. I dont think I'll be able to download CS:S quick enough as I've not re-dwnloaded it since format
::EDIT:: Only 900MB or so to download, which is good. The bad however is that I'm only on a 1MB connection. Oh yeah.. that and I suck at CS:S anyway :P
Nice hardware spec, but why on earth did you install windows 64bit as the base operating system?? Runing VMware is absolutely a good thing to do, but is severely hampered by not using it as the base operating system itself. Did you do this because of the VMware ESX licencing cost? coz you are loosing out on a big chunk of performance by not truely virtualising.
VMware ESX should be the base OS with windows 2003 64bit running as a virtual alongside linux etc.
Seems like a big waste of 8GB ram and 8 or so cores.
The other oversight seems to be the lack of SAS drives. Disk I/O is incredibly important when virtualising, particularly when you have multiple VM's residing on the same physical disk. SATA is inadequate for a server of this nature.
Lastly, where is the 4th SATA drive...I see only 3 external bays, is the other on an external SATA connector or internally mounted?
Explanation please...as it's an interesting project.
....sorry to be picky, but you want to build a cheetah right, not an elephant.
Woah. I remember there being some hints of something to do with a bit-tech server, but this is just awesome. Hopefully it'll be advertised on the front page more, as the old one wasn't really well publicised and so was nearly always empty.
Nice one guys ;)
Originally Posted by ozstrike Woah. I remember there being some hints of something to do with a bit-tech server, but this is just awesome. Hopefully it'll be advertised on the front page more, as the old one wasn't really well publicised and so was nearly always empty.
Nice one guys ;)
Originally Posted by Rascal Nice hardware spec, but why on earth did you install windows 64bit as the base operating system?? Runing VMware is absolutely a good thing to do, but is severely hampered by not using it as the base operating system itself. Did you do this because of the VMware ESX licencing cost? coz you are loosing out on a big chunk of performance by not truely virtualising.
VMware ESX should be the base OS with windows 2003 64bit running as a virtual alongside linux etc.
Seems like a big waste of 8GB ram and 8 or so cores.
The other oversight seems to be the lack of SAS drives. Disk I/O is incredibly important when virtualising, particularly when you have multiple VM's residing on the same physical disk. SATA is inadequate for a server of this nature.
Lastly, where is the 4th SATA drive...I see only 3 external bays, is the other on an external SATA connector or internally mounted?
Explanation please...as it's an interesting project.
....sorry to be picky, but you want to build a cheetah right, not an elephant.
Three words - work in progress :D Definitely taking your comments on board, we have lots of work to do on the server before we're done with it!
Originally Posted by Rascal Nice hardware spec, but why on earth did you install windows 64bit as the base operating system?? Runing VMware is absolutely a good thing to do, but is severely hampered by not using it as the base operating system itself. Did you do this because of the VMware ESX licencing cost? coz you are loosing out on a big chunk of performance by not truely virtualising.
VMware ESX should be the base OS with windows 2003 64bit running as a virtual alongside linux etc.
Seems like a big waste of 8GB ram and 8 or so cores.
The other oversight seems to be the lack of SAS drives. Disk I/O is incredibly important when virtualising, particularly when you have multiple VM's residing on the same physical disk. SATA is inadequate for a server of this nature.
Lastly, where is the 4th SATA drive...I see only 3 external bays, is the other on an external SATA connector or internally mounted?
Explanation please...as it's an interesting project.
....sorry to be picky, but you want to build a cheetah right, not an elephant.
Hi There, cheers for replying (especially as you've registered especially to do so).
I'm sure it was mentioned in the review that this is being done in joint with Trusted Reviews, which is where I'm from if you don't recognise my name straight away.
I compeltely agree with your sentiments. I didn't want to install Windows as the base OS. However, some of this hardware is still in alpha, and we had a few issues with the RAID setup. As this wasn't finalised and would probably involve a re-install at some point, we figured this would do for the moment. We'll be following up on the article once we get these issues figured out and virtualization going ahead fully.
I'm not by any stretch of the imagination a virtualization geek (yet), and I was under the impression VMWare it had to be installed on to an OS in the first place (I was going to put Fedora x64 on there). Looking up ESX, it would seem a considerably better way of going. Now it's just a matter of finding the funds for the license ;)
As far as SAS, for running gaming servers - I wasn't convinced the IO was going to be particuarly important as it'll be mainly running from memory? No?
I'm not sure at the moment, the header image will stay there for a while now and if/when we change it for something else, we might put it in rotation on the 468 ad slots... however, that decision is down to the sales guys. I'm sure that Geoff would be for it though. :)
I'm wondering why virtualise at all? Obviously you can run several different OSes at once which is great but why do you need more than one OS? Can't you run all the game servers you want on a single OS?
Originally Posted by Spode Looking up ESX, it would seem a considerably better way of going. Now it's just a matter of finding the funds for the license ;)
I think someone needs to sweet talk VMware into donating one. ;)
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::EDIT:: Only 900MB or so to download, which is good. The bad however is that I'm only on a 1MB connection. Oh yeah.. that and I suck at CS:S anyway :P
Is the prize.. the server? (wishful thinking)
So does that mean it's not a cloverton ES?
One minor point:
Damn you Bit-Tech!
VMware ESX should be the base OS with windows 2003 64bit running as a virtual alongside linux etc.
Seems like a big waste of 8GB ram and 8 or so cores.
The other oversight seems to be the lack of SAS drives. Disk I/O is incredibly important when virtualising, particularly when you have multiple VM's residing on the same physical disk. SATA is inadequate for a server of this nature.
Lastly, where is the 4th SATA drive...I see only 3 external bays, is the other on an external SATA connector or internally mounted?
Explanation please...as it's an interesting project.
....sorry to be picky, but you want to build a cheetah right, not an elephant.
I shall be there!
Nice one guys ;)
Three words - work in progress :D Definitely taking your comments on board, we have lots of work to do on the server before we're done with it!
Hi There, cheers for replying (especially as you've registered especially to do so).
I'm sure it was mentioned in the review that this is being done in joint with Trusted Reviews, which is where I'm from if you don't recognise my name straight away.
I compeltely agree with your sentiments. I didn't want to install Windows as the base OS. However, some of this hardware is still in alpha, and we had a few issues with the RAID setup. As this wasn't finalised and would probably involve a re-install at some point, we figured this would do for the moment. We'll be following up on the article once we get these issues figured out and virtualization going ahead fully.
I'm not by any stretch of the imagination a virtualization geek (yet), and I was under the impression VMWare it had to be installed on to an OS in the first place (I was going to put Fedora x64 on there). Looking up ESX, it would seem a considerably better way of going. Now it's just a matter of finding the funds for the license ;)
As far as SAS, for running gaming servers - I wasn't convinced the IO was going to be particuarly important as it'll be mainly running from memory? No?
Edit: ah I see the advert on the front page now. Is that going to be a semi-permanent thing, or are you going to find other ways to publicise it?
That's the reason right there :)