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Marquee 31st October 2005, 03:08 Quote
I know of the way razor names there mice. But the main point is in the past the kinda look like the name. The copper head one though looks nothing like copper. but the G5 has a copper spot on it. I am saying that Razor is trying to use Logitechs marketing for G5 and use it for there copper head. Well any way, I have used a razor mouse a while back at a LAN Party, didn't like it that much. I have big hands and like the feel of my curvy mx1000. The curve it what I need. I really dont like the 500 series mouse ethier by logitch. I whish they sticked witht he MX1000 shell.

But I am thinking of a future mod with mx shell and G5 or G7 inners.
TheMuffinMan 31st October 2005, 03:35 Quote
Ummmm, or they're just naming them after snakes? Like every other mouse they make? Viper, Diamondback, Copperhead? Honestly, how many people have heard of Razor, not alot I'd reckon, so if they were trying to "ride" off on Logitech's features they'd be doing a bad job huh? And if I recall correctly, I believe that Razor had the name Copperhead planned quite awhile ago.
Firehed 31st October 2005, 07:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by specofdust
<nazi spelling mode>
there != they're
</nazi spelling mode>
Dude, it was spelled correctly, that was a grammar issue. And if we're at that, "nazi" should be capitalized. And naturally you should be using bbtags rather than HTML, as this is a forum.

Ok, I'm in the middle of writing a college essay. Seriously. Though that might be due to the amount of caffeine coursing through my veins more than anything else.

Anyways, I've used a decent amount of mice and always come back to my MS Optical Intellimouse. Having said that, it's only because of the design, it's a fairly "tall" mouse and I'm definately a palm user - it just feels wierd if my palm doesn't have something touching it.

The idea of sensitivity on-the-fly is definately a good one, most popular mice seem to do that recently. Like you with putting this in the body of the Viper, I'd love to see it in the body of the MSOIM I love. The thing literally has sweat burned onto the body at this point (modding in an infrared LED to replace the stock red makes it a touch warm - in addition to awesomely stealthy - thanks to 100mA of invisible light goodness. Remember, kids, that the average ultrabright LED won't draw more than 30mA, most 20mA, and the standard LEDs in an optical mouse would probably be under 10mA). Unfortunately, I can't see myself as being too successful at hitting the right button to change the sensitivity, but then again I used to go 0-25 in CS.

Dunno, I just see my game improving more by putting that money towards an FPS-specific keyboard. But on that same note, nothing's been quite as reliable as my dell multimedia keyboard. I love those winamp controls...
specofdust 31st October 2005, 15:58 Quote
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Dude, it was spelled correctly, that was a grammar issue. And if we're at that, "nazi" should be capitalized. And naturally you should be using bbtags rather than HTML, as this is a forum.

Wasn't sure if the bbtags would show up if I actually put something like that in them. Anyway, ok, it was spelled correctly, that was grammer, but I was just quickly correcting something you see wrong on forums alot, I'm happy to be corrected right back :)
Firehed 31st October 2005, 18:04 Quote
Yeah, bbtags only parse if they actually work. I can throw out [fake]tags[/fake] and [img]open [i]tags but they won't go off. I'm not sure whether I should point out it's grammar and "alot" is two words.

I tell ya', it's that darned college essay.
specofdust 31st October 2005, 18:50 Quote
No, sure, go ahead and point stuff out, I'm always happy to be corrected :). Sometimes I slip up and spell things I know badly, or use bad grammar, sometimes I just don't know, but I'm always happy to learn.

Intresting about the bbtags, will note that for future.
Iceman_Kimi 6th November 2005, 15:04 Quote
As the saying goes you only get what you pay for this is true for almost everything you buy i mean i thought my old cloth/foam mouse mat and ball mice was useable then i got a microsoft intellimouse 3.0a which was a major improvement from my old ball mouse but it still seemed to drag its feet on a cloth mouse mat so i invested in a ratpadz gs and what i thought was good got even better until the feet of the mouse got clogged with dirt which brings me onto the copperhead, at £50 its not cheap but the difference is amazing, movement is virtually frictionless and the speed of the cursor is ridiculous the only thing that gripes my ass is the side buttons, perhaps its the way i hold it but to press the back button seems like too much effort on the thumb however the forward button is in good position the solution i have found for me is to reverse the buttons and use the forward button as back and since when browsing its what i use mostly and its much more comfortable to use now, personally i wouldnt buy another logitech product or saitek for that matter since the logitech momo wheel has to have the worst pedals ever which lost there full analogue capacity after 1 week so now im stuck with calibrating it with dxtweak since this is my second wheel and its gonna cost me more to keep sending em back than live with it, also i dont know what it is with logitech products they have a real cheap click sound with the buttons same with saitek microsoft products and this razer have a nicer sound to the click, perhaps says somthing about the quality of the products or lack of it with logitech, and as for razer or anyone copying logitech, logitech are followers not leaders.
wilkyboy 6th November 2005, 22:08 Quote
anyone got this? what colours the laser?
<A88> 6th November 2005, 23:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Iceman_Kimi
As the saying goes you only get what you pay for this is true for almost everything you buy i mean i thought my old cloth/foam mouse mat and ball mice was useable then i got a microsoft intellimouse 3.0a which was a major improvement from my old ball mouse but it still seemed to drag its feet on a cloth mouse mat so i invested in a ratpadz gs and what i thought was good got even better until the feet of the mouse got clogged with dirt which brings me onto the copperhead, at £50 its not cheap but the difference is amazing, movement is virtually frictionless and the speed of the cursor is ridiculous the only thing that gripes my ass is the side buttons, perhaps its the way i hold it but to press the back button seems like too much effort on the thumb however the forward button is in good position the solution i have found for me is to reverse the buttons and use the forward button as back and since when browsing its what i use mostly and its much more comfortable to use now, personally i wouldnt buy another logitech product or saitek for that matter since the logitech momo wheel has to have the worst pedals ever which lost there full analogue capacity after 1 week so now im stuck with calibrating it with dxtweak since this is my second wheel and its gonna cost me more to keep sending em back than live with it, also i dont know what it is with logitech products they have a real cheap click sound with the buttons same with saitek microsoft products and this razer have a nicer sound to the click, perhaps says somthing about the quality of the products or lack of it with logitech, and as for razer or anyone copying logitech, logitech are followers not leaders.

Gramatically, you should be able to say that in one breath...

<A88>
Hamish 6th November 2005, 23:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigz
I've not looked back since I got a Razer. I'm actually seriously considering modding this CopperHead to make it feel a lot more like the Viper, because the sensitivity is just immense.

It all depends on how you like to hold your mouse - Razer's are more of a finger mouse, where as I feel that the MS and Logitech (even more so) are very palm orientated because of their shape. I am a 'palm' desktop user, but I game with my fingers.
i've always 'fingered' (:p) both my logitech and MS mice
heel of palm on the mat, hold the mouse between thumb + little finger, 3 other fingers for lmb, wheel, rmb

honestly i think the on the fly sensitivity adjustment thing is such a gimmick
i turned mine off after the first gaming session wit hthe mx518
kept accidently putting the sensitivity up when i try and scroll and it was just too annoying, never found much use for it either
i just set it up how i like it and find it works fine for both fast movement and slow precision
i also have mouse acceleration on
some people dont like it but i find it quite good :p
Aankhen 7th November 2005, 09:47 Quote
This might be a good time to ask: what is the relationship between a mouse's resolution, polling frequency, response time, and in-game mouse sensitivity? My guess is that the in-game mouse sensitivity uses interpolation to literally multiply the resolution... but perhaps someone else might know better? :)
Iceman_Kimi 8th November 2005, 18:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by wilkyboy
anyone got this? what colours the laser?

There is no colour emmitted from the laser.
Iceman_Kimi 8th November 2005, 18:58 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by <A88>
Gramatically, you should be able to say that in one breath...

<A88>

If you cant think of anything sensible to reply with then dont reply at all...
silent_project 9th November 2005, 13:26 Quote
I got a diamondback for work :-) then i immediately got another for home because there is just no going back... I like the high sensitivity for normal windows as well as gimabing because i like a lightning fast cursor.
silent_project 9th November 2005, 13:30 Quote
the mice are internally illuminated but the actual sensor on the bottom doesn't put out any visible light
baron210 9th November 2005, 23:23 Quote
Hi,
I have just built my new system based around a Gigabyte K8 socket 939 Sli Mainboard Nvidia 4 chipset and a SLI 2 in One 3D1 graphics Card, and not knowing quite what CPU to treat this to, I decided on a Duel Core entry level AMD64 3800+ (Manchester Core) @ 2.0 GHZ.
To compliment this system, I saw the Copperhead advertised, and just went for it.
So far so good, the only problem I have at the moment (which I didn't get with my Microsoft intellimouse Optical) is the fact that when I warm re-boot, the usb mouse doesn't auto-initialise, and I have to remove and re-plug it to get the pointer to move. This happens despite a bios upgrade (I had to upgrade the bios in order to get my Mainboard to properly recognise my duel core CPU, and stop an error beep occuring during a warm re-boot)..
If anyone knows how to fix this issue, I would be more than grateful for the info...


Baron210 UK URL = http://www.atpf23.dsl.pipex.com

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/baron210/System1.jpg

System = AMD 64 Duel Core 3800+ on a Gigabyte K8 Sli with Duel 6600GT 256MB Graphics,
HDA Mystique Dolby Digital Live encode/decode capable 7.1 soundcard (to replace my much missed Soundstorm Chipset),
1 GB Corsair XML Matched duel channel pc3200 ram,
100% transparent acrylic case with neons cathodes and UV Hard drives and stuff,
Razor Copperhead blue mouse,
Soundblaster Audigy Platinum (Only use this for sound recording) with Audigy two hacked driver pack,
Antec Truepower 480W PSU,
Logitech Optical Keyboard / Logitech Formula Force Feedback Wheel and Microsoft Sidewinder 2 USB FF Joystick...
19" Monitor (Plan to but an NEC 50" Plasma or 42" Hyundai LCD for secondary display in future)...
Iceman_Kimi 12th November 2005, 09:11 Quote
All that but nothing that can take a decent photo of it.
eek 12th November 2005, 12:08 Quote
Iceman_Kimi 13th November 2005, 15:08 Quote
J()£ 27th January 2006, 21:45 Quote
Nice mouse, I am getting it strait away :D
Houck 22nd November 2006, 12:24 Quote
I think Logitech make better mouses.
drumaddic 8th July 2007, 03:19 Quote
I just spent about $100 on a copperhead mouse and the pro tools for it and when i tried to customize the mouse, the glow pipe came undone and now my mouse (which is a week or two old) is ruined! I can't even figure out how to get the damn case back together. The instructions included for the warranty-voiding "tools" are completely inadequate and now i'm out $100 because Razer wants to sell products that void my warrant when used. I'm NEVER buying anything from Razer again. I'll get a logitech mouse (which, by the way has weights that DON'T void the warranty)and will be sure to let all my many friends in the gaming industry know how inferior their products are. I'm so mad right now I can hardly write this, but my hard earned cash is gone now along with my mouse because they can't make simple to use products that dont void warranties. My plans for buying a compete Razer system are now gone and I will not be back.
OtakuHawk 8th July 2007, 03:48 Quote
so.... you buy a kit that you know full well will void your warranty if you screw up,

you screw up, and now it's razer's fault for selling you said kit?

ace thinking there, sherlock.
drumaddic 8th July 2007, 04:29 Quote
Ok, first of all, knowing that it will void my warranty is one thing. My question is, why does Razer sell products that will void the warranty in the first place?

Second, the thing was so cheaply made that i now know why they make that claim. As soon as I took off the cover the glow pipe came with it. So before you go telling me (the guy who owns 3 businesses of his own) that my thinking is bad, try holding the company responsible for making crap products. I have never heard of a company selling a product that will void their OWN warranty. The fact that the thing broke before any modding was done is simply garbage.

So again, explain to me how it's my fault.... Sherlock.
drumaddic 8th July 2007, 04:32 Quote
oops double post
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