I like my Logitech mx518 better because you can manuelly choose the DPI levels...but overall the razer is a great mouse (I'v played with my friends copperhead)
you can manually set the DPI levels on the Razer, on the fly, as I mentioned in the review. ;)
You can also set the polling rate too. If you want, you can create five different profiles with different buttons, different polling rates, different DPI rates and so on.. did I mention you could adjust ALL of that on the fly too?
You know I keep hearing all this mumbo-jumbo about all these uber-mice. Do they really make that much of a difference? I'm using an HP optical that I hi-jacked from the office, and it works well enough for me. Is there any REAL significance to these mice? Are they worth the ridiculous amount of money they charge for them?
I've not looked back since I got a Razer. I'm actually seriously considering modding this CopperHead to make it feel a lot more like the Viper, because the sensitivity is just immense.
It all depends on how you like to hold your mouse - Razer's are more of a finger mouse, where as I feel that the MS and Logitech (even more so) are very palm orientated because of their shape. I am a 'palm' desktop user, but I game with my fingers.
I think I may be a "finger" person. I wasn't sure which when I clicked reply and started typing this, but I watched my hand as I moved the cursor to the text box, and my palm never touched the mouse. Does this mean this thing might like me?
This mouse isn't my personal cup of tea and I couldn't use it as my everyday mouse. If it was possible to pack the features that this mouse has inside the shell of the Viper, I'd have my dream mouse.
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I've not looked back since I got a Razer. I'm actually seriously considering modding this CopperHead to make it feel a lot more like the Viper, because the sensitivity is just immense.
Isn't that what these forums are all about? Get to it! On the mouse, I've also got a mx518, and I love the on-the-fly adjustment, makes bf2 flying a breeze :D whats the big difference in the polling rates? what exactly does it affect?
Can't you set mouse sensitivity in games? Why do you need it on the fly?
I've used my mates razer (can't remember which one - it's a year or so old) and I can't stand it, my fingers slip under it - it's wierd. My MX510 is super comfortable, though I hold it with my fingers and not my palm.
It's an obvious and pronounced difference between ball and optical mice but is it the same for optical to laser? I've not noticed much difference between various optical mice when used on a decent surface - though i've never had the luxury of directly comparing.
Originally Posted by Meanmotion Can't you set mouse sensitivity in games? Why do you need it on the fly?
On-the-fly sensitivity adjust is really nice. If I grab a sniper rifle, *click* I'm now making pixel-by-pixel changes in my aim. If I grab an assault rifle (or shotgun), *click* *click*, and now I spin around completely with a flick of the wrist. Having multiple mouse settings means that you can get very precise (headshot a guy who's three pixels wide), or be able to turn around really fast, which is great when someone starts shooting at your back.
I've been waiting on this one, I've got a Diamondback because the logitech's didn't quite seem to fit the way i was holding it, wasn't comfortable, but I like the narrowness and height of the razer. I'll have to try to copperhead out. I usually just keep mine at a sensitivity at 9 or 10 it's pretty crazy when a friend tries to use my computer haha, tries to go the the start menu and over shoots an item like 4 times until he gets it.
ooo looks like a good mouse... but a little on the expensive side? my current mouse is worth about £4 and is around 3 years old +
i haven't even got a scroll wheel! for gaming it sux0rz :O
It's easy to say for sure. Does the bottom of your palm(the bit you'd hit someone with in the nose if you wanted to kill them) sit on the mousemat/surface or on on the mouses arse? If its on the mousemat you're a finger person, if its on the mouse you're a palm person.
Frankly I don't understand why anyone uses mice with their whole hand, you turn the sensitivity right up and you barely need to move your fingers to do anything with a mouse, you can get pricise, quick, accurate adjustments. Getting quick headshots using my whole hand with my mouse would be nigh on impossible for me. Fingers is definately the way forward, and if you don't do it already, give it a go.
Anyway, I agree with MS mice being described as palm mice, but logitech? I can't stand using my 510 with my palm, the surface just doesn't feel nice enough to do that, I'd want some sort of nice rubber grip on the back for it to be any good as a palm mouse. Its fingers all the way on the 510 for me.
The review is very intresting though, and I am strongly considering using two mice now, a logitech wireless one with zillions of buttons for desktop and app use, and a razor Copperhead with its two big proper buttons(ok it has more, but the two huge ones is what its about) for games.
Using a logitech G5 here and I rest my palm on the mouse mat... I can't imagine using it any other way unless you have really tiny hands?! There is no way I would call it a 'palm' mouse - but then as the review states, it is all fairly subjective!
The one big difference between the G5 and the Razor is that the G5 has leds on it so you know which of the 5 profiles it is set to. I find this feature v useful as I use a different profile for pretty much every different task - gaming, photoshop, browsing - as it is always nice to know what setting your on from just looking at the mouse without having to wonder what it was on to start with and then working out how many clicks away the setting you want is.
I was actually looking around for reviews of the mouse yesterday, and then funnily enough I return home and find it on my homepage-nice mind-reading there Tim!:) I'm still trying to decide which mouse would be perfect for me. I had kinda hoped the G7 would be, and for the most part it is but the lack of a back button is really anoying. I'm currently using a compaq standard ball mouse which is shaped a lot like a razer, and have been doing pretty well on CoD online with it so was wandering how the razers would meet my desires. If anyone's wandering to get me for christmas, a Copperhead, G7, G15 and usb hub will do ;)
Raver is such a rip off. Why is it called Copper head when it has no copper on it. I think there trying to use Logitechs marketing of there copper spoted G5 to sell this. OMG call me a fan boy but the name alone is pissing me off.
Originally Posted by Marquee Raver is such a rip off. Why is it called Copper head when it has no copper on it. I think there trying to use Logitechs marketing of there copper spoted G5 to sell this. OMG call me a fan boy but the name alone is pissing me off.
Fanboy.
Sorry, that was too good to miss.
Also, copperhead is a type of snake, as is viper. See the connection forming?
Originally Posted by Marquee Raver is such a rip off. Why is it called Copper head when it has no copper on it. I think there trying to use Logitechs marketing of there copper spoted G5 to sell this. OMG call me a fan boy but the name alone is pissing me off.
<nazi spelling mode>
there != they're
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Anyway, AMD codenamed one of their CPU's Thouroughbred, that doesn't mean we should all expect ponies when we buy a new processor ;)
I don't really see how you can say they're a rip off when you clearly like Logitechs equally highly priced mice. How many razor mice have you used?
The razor copperhead costs as much as the logitech G5 mouse. Logitech mice are widely replicated in design by plenty of other cheap manufacturers (even my Chic mouse looks like an mx700 a bit!), and the Razer mice are a complete opposite in design to that of the former company. Not having tried either mice I can't say which I prefer, but I'd cool down a bit before you get that exited over a computer peripheral in future.
got my Razor DiamondBack and i've nto looke dback on anothe rmouse i have an MX510 next too it for my media box and te Razor just owns it for sensitivy and after a while you get used oto the feel depends how you hold your mouse. If you grip it like a bear strangler then you prob wont like the shape but if you hold it with the tips of your fingers and glide it over you matt then its a lovely mouse :D.
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You can also set the polling rate too. If you want, you can create five different profiles with different buttons, different polling rates, different DPI rates and so on.. did I mention you could adjust ALL of that on the fly too?
It all depends on how you like to hold your mouse - Razer's are more of a finger mouse, where as I feel that the MS and Logitech (even more so) are very palm orientated because of their shape. I am a 'palm' desktop user, but I game with my fingers.
Isn't that what these forums are all about? Get to it! On the mouse, I've also got a mx518, and I love the on-the-fly adjustment, makes bf2 flying a breeze :D whats the big difference in the polling rates? what exactly does it affect?
I've used my mates razer (can't remember which one - it's a year or so old) and I can't stand it, my fingers slip under it - it's wierd. My MX510 is super comfortable, though I hold it with my fingers and not my palm.
It's an obvious and pronounced difference between ball and optical mice but is it the same for optical to laser? I've not noticed much difference between various optical mice when used on a decent surface - though i've never had the luxury of directly comparing.
So i bought a classic logitech feel mouse instead. :(
The razor looks to be useable for right and left handed people.t I did not see this in the review and would like to know. Tim can you comment on this?
On-the-fly sensitivity adjust is really nice. If I grab a sniper rifle, *click* I'm now making pixel-by-pixel changes in my aim. If I grab an assault rifle (or shotgun), *click* *click*, and now I spin around completely with a flick of the wrist. Having multiple mouse settings means that you can get very precise (headshot a guy who's three pixels wide), or be able to turn around really fast, which is great when someone starts shooting at your back.
(I love my MX518.)
There you go ;)
It's symmetrical
i haven't even got a scroll wheel! for gaming it sux0rz :O
OMGZ, you suck! Get a new mouse! :)
Ohhh: 3000th Posteh! WOOT :p (I have no life)
It's easy to say for sure. Does the bottom of your palm(the bit you'd hit someone with in the nose if you wanted to kill them) sit on the mousemat/surface or on on the mouses arse? If its on the mousemat you're a finger person, if its on the mouse you're a palm person.
Frankly I don't understand why anyone uses mice with their whole hand, you turn the sensitivity right up and you barely need to move your fingers to do anything with a mouse, you can get pricise, quick, accurate adjustments. Getting quick headshots using my whole hand with my mouse would be nigh on impossible for me. Fingers is definately the way forward, and if you don't do it already, give it a go.
Anyway, I agree with MS mice being described as palm mice, but logitech? I can't stand using my 510 with my palm, the surface just doesn't feel nice enough to do that, I'd want some sort of nice rubber grip on the back for it to be any good as a palm mouse. Its fingers all the way on the 510 for me.
The review is very intresting though, and I am strongly considering using two mice now, a logitech wireless one with zillions of buttons for desktop and app use, and a razor Copperhead with its two big proper buttons(ok it has more, but the two huge ones is what its about) for games.
lol you made that quite ovious :) :)
i have a life :)
The one big difference between the G5 and the Razor is that the G5 has leds on it so you know which of the 5 profiles it is set to. I find this feature v useful as I use a different profile for pretty much every different task - gaming, photoshop, browsing - as it is always nice to know what setting your on from just looking at the mouse without having to wonder what it was on to start with and then working out how many clicks away the setting you want is.
Fanboy.
Sorry, that was too good to miss.
Also, copperhead is a type of snake, as is viper. See the connection forming?
<nazi spelling mode>
there != they're
</nazi spelling mode>
Anyway, AMD codenamed one of their CPU's Thouroughbred, that doesn't mean we should all expect ponies when we buy a new processor ;)
I don't really see how you can say they're a rip off when you clearly like Logitechs equally highly priced mice. How many razor mice have you used?
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Morgan.