Originally Posted by Computer Gremlin Hopefully the RIAA will be disbanded under the US Federal RICO stature in a couple years. The price-fixing of CDs, harassment, paying off radio stations, monopolization of both the production and selling of music, threating children and skirting the law will lead to their downfall. It will be very rapid collapse with Senate hearings and massive fines levied against the Big Five.
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In 2005, Tanya Andersen of Oregon responded to a lawsuit on behalf of Atlantic Records by in turn suing them under the RICO laws. Her suit alleges that RIAA members, in this particular case Atlantic, engaged in illegal computer trespass, extortion, and unfair trade practices under Oregon state law.
Originally Posted by DXR_13KE it failed from "natural" causes? and it was substituted before she knew she was being targeted?
Well, that was part of her defence put forward in court. I'd prefer to give Jammie the benefit of the doubt over the RIAA's lawyer who wants us to believe that ripping a CD you own is a nice way of saying "steals one copy". ;)
Originally Posted by zero0ne you know, if those two last cases end up being dismissed or the RIAA loses, the final score ends up being tied :)
(though if those two last cases are won for us the people, then we have a HUGE advantage for future litigation )
But what if we lose them? I'm amazed at all the times it seems obvious the RIAA doesn't have a case, or the claims are ridiculous, and the case not only moves forward but the RIAA wins them. It doesn't make sense to me, especially since some of them are decided by juries, not judges.
What's been completely passed on in that article is peoples awareness and attitudes towards copying and sharing. This will be the deciding factor on the article's point system the market's attitude towards this will count for at least 1,000,000 points
The RIAA are too wrapped up in the "power" of their big bank accounts and high priced lawyers to realise that the market has ALL the power.
Blaming all losses on piracy while continually producing repetitive rubbish will only work for so long.
Personally, i feel the RIAA crusade against internet radio stations is by far the single most blatant example of shameless raw greed ever displayed on this planet in all history...
How they can ever justify charging fees orders of magnitude higher than net stations NET income* whilst analog radio pays nearly nothing and digital radio pays a fraction is just absurd
On March 2, 2007 the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB), which oversees sound recording royalties paid by Internet radio services, increased Internet radio's royalty burden between 300 and 1200 percent and thereby jeopardized the industrys future.
At the request of the Recording Industry Association of America, the CRB ignored the fact that Internet radio royalties were already double what satellite radio pays, and multiplied the royalties even further. The 2005 royalty rate was 7/100 of a penny per song streamed; the 2010 rate will be 19/100 of a penny per song streamed. And for small webcasters that were able to calculate royalties as a percentage of revenue in 2005 that option was quashed by the CRB, so small webcasters royalties will grow exponentially!
Before this ruling was handed down, the vast majority of webcasters were barely making ends meet as Internet radio advertising revenue is just beginning to develop. Without a doubt most Internet radio services will go bankrupt and cease webcasting if this royalty rate is not reversed by the Congress, and webcasters demise will mean a great loss of creative and diverse radio. Surviving webcasters will need sweetheart licenses that major record labels will be only too happy to offer, so long as the webcaster permits the major label to control the programming and playlist. Is that the Internet radio you care to hear?
The RIAA is simply one of the purest forms of evil to be found in the world today... I will never knowingly buy anything from them if i can help it
As far as the Ripping cds (to mp3) being illegal is concerned the riaa and all other federal bodies had there chance to make that illegal back when the first players hit the market "BUNDLED" with software that did just that. By allowing those bundled products to hit the open and legal market, in my mind, they had assured us of our legal right to do this.
Well they can very well revoke this now, or in the feature, the fact is it is out right now, and should they choose to change that i believe that all americans alive at the dawn of the mp3 age are required to be grandfathered in to the old way, since a revocation or change of that law is effectively removing a persons rights which has was granted to them already.
God I'm so happy I live outside of US... I really couldn't believe what I've read. This is one most ridiculous and greedy case I've heard about. I can't rip my own CD's to play them on my iPod? WTF?? I'm a DJ myself, and I buy all of my music from sources like Beatport or Traxsource, from time to time I go out and buy an oldschool vinyl (you can't beat the analog sound...). But as far as I'm concerned all I buy is from smaller labels, that are much more liberal in area of DRM and copyright.
Originally Posted by -EVRE- My new years resolution, to not buy a single song from a retail location for 2008.
Ebay and pawn shops here I come...
I hate to be pedantic here [well not really ;)] but I think that you'll find that the 2nd hand sale of CD's, DVD's and even books is technically illegal too and will probably be the next thing the RIAA go after ;)
Brett keeps tabs on the latest happenings on the States, especially the nefarious actions of digital content providers and the growth of computer-centric media.
Originally Posted by C-Sniper Well technically, sing the happy birthday song is copyright, just wait for the RIAA president to sing it and sue his ass to kingdom come.
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I love it. Someone keep close tabs on that president!
the sad thing is, the average Joe doesn't even know this train of thought is already in progress, or even care for that matter. The majority of the population couldn't care less about DRM until they plug in their iWhatever(tm) and have to ask a geek for help when they cant load up on music.
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(though if those two last cases are won for us the people, then we have a HUGE advantage for future litigation )
But what if we lose them? I'm amazed at all the times it seems obvious the RIAA doesn't have a case, or the claims are ridiculous, and the case not only moves forward but the RIAA wins them. It doesn't make sense to me, especially since some of them are decided by juries, not judges.
The RIAA are too wrapped up in the "power" of their big bank accounts and high priced lawyers to realise that the market has ALL the power.
Blaming all losses on piracy while continually producing repetitive rubbish will only work for so long.
How they can ever justify charging fees orders of magnitude higher than net stations NET income* whilst analog radio pays nearly nothing and digital radio pays a fraction is just absurd
*note, not gross income, *NET* income before costs: instantly bankrupting every single net station in existence if they go ahead and collect these fees. Even giants such as AOL and Yahoo are saying they will have to shut shop if this goes ahead...
www.savenetradio.org
The RIAA is simply one of the purest forms of evil to be found in the world today... I will never knowingly buy anything from them if i can help it
the last CD i bought was in 2004, never again will i buy another CD.
Well they can very well revoke this now, or in the feature, the fact is it is out right now, and should they choose to change that i believe that all americans alive at the dawn of the mp3 age are required to be grandfathered in to the old way, since a revocation or change of that law is effectively removing a persons rights which has was granted to them already.
I hate to be pedantic here [well not really ;)] but I think that you'll find that the 2nd hand sale of CD's, DVD's and even books is technically illegal too and will probably be the next thing the RIAA go after ;)
He is also the guy that wrote the original article:D
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I love it. Someone keep close tabs on that president!
That would be me. ;)