Published on 8th July 2007 by
Originally Posted by JamieApple fanboys are like the emo kids of the music world.
Originally Posted by mikeuk2004I have not heard much about it. All I know is that is another phone. I have my £40 LG that makes calls and not intersted in any extra rubish that boosts up the price.
Originally Posted by Da DegoOn the flip side, in two years' time the best features on the iPhone will be integrated into other devices, many of which that will run off of Windows Mobile. Those improvements will be built on the mass efficiency of the Windows Mobile platform, allowing them to show up on hundreds of types of devices, though assuredly with a few quality issues (such is the problem with mass-scale, multi-unit design).
4GB or 8GB flash drive1 W950i rel date 10/06
3.5-inch (diagonal) widescreen multi-touch display
480-by-320-pixel resolution at 160 dpi ya got me on that one, it's got a reasonable screen
Support for display of multiple languages and characters simultaneously not sure about this one, usefulness though?
OS X hahahaha
GSM Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) what, no UMTS2100?900,1800,1900 T600 rel date 2002, couldn't find 850 band *shrugs*
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) P990 12/05
Bluetooth 2.0+EDR considering bluetooth is an Ericsson standardized technology, uhh, 1994? for 2.0 edr etc. i'm too lazy to look
2.0 megapixels K750 q2 2005just so you know, there are now 5megapixel camera phones on the market
Frequency response: 20Hz to 20,000Hz
Audio formats supported: AAC, Protected AAC, MP3, MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 1, 2, and 3), Apple Lossless, AIFF, and WAV disregarding apple junk, w800 July 2005
Video formats supported: H.264 video, up to 1.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Low-Complexity version of the H.264 Baseline Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; H.264 video, up to 768 Kbps, 320 by 240 pixels, 30 frames per second, Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
i can play mpegs and avis on my w800, again July 2005. .mov sucks anyways
Originally Posted by Hells_BlissI'm sure Nokia, Samsung, Motorola etc. have comperable models, i just am not familiar with them
Windows Vista barely showed up on the radar of the general press, despite us all waiting with baited breath
Originally Posted by specofdustGood article, and I see what you're saying. I'm not so sure I agree that the Iphone is a better product than all the other phones out there. Its just different. I mean, the camera in it is sucky for a start, and there's no video recording whatsoever. My brothers old phone could do simple video recording years ago.
So in some respects the Iphone is almost embaressingly behind. On the other hand, it's not just a phone and it looks totaly different to anything (bar the prada copycat) that's been released up untill now. The iphone looks like the first serious contender for an all-in-one device that would work properly and the way its users would want it to. So in this I think apple may have done something special.
The coverage is annoying as hell though and I look forward to all the macboys climbing back into their glass boxes (I would say caves, but I know no apple fan would ever be seen in one of those) and shutting the hell up for another 6 months (that is, untill the next time steve jobs farts).
Originally Posted by nexxoWe are used to the much less refined generic clone PCs which are a random compilation of verious manufactuers' parts, and phone PDAs which are really several devices not very well integrated by Windows-on-top-of-DOS-on-top-of-BIOS, or Windows Mobile which is really just a derivative Windows Lite rather than an OS specifically designed for small hand-held devices. We are used to our devices having a slightly Heath-Robinson edge to them, and as such we are used to coaxing and tweaking and expanding or modifying them to make them do what we want.
Originally Posted by Hells_Bliss.mov sucks anyways
Originally Posted by Hells_BlissEverything, and I mean EVERYTHING on the iPhone is already on the market, in fact the technology is obsolete. And you better not drop that lil iphone of yours because you know that the glass screen is going to shatter.
the specs of the iPhone are here, i'll compare with sony ericsson phones since i'm most familiar with those.
I'm sure Nokia, Samsung, Motorola etc. have comperable models, i just am not familiar with them
The only thing special about the iPhone is its media-hype.
Originally Posted by NexxoApple products are largely transparent. You don't have to think too hard about how to use them, you just do. The function is, for practical purposes (sic), invisible. What is very visible however is the resulting form, and Apple does like to make its products look polished. So people mistakenly think they are all about style because they can't see the functionality. But then again, they are not supposed to. It is supposed to just be there: subliminal, intuitive, invisible.
h.264 is part of the mpeg-4 spec just as divx and xvid is.
No argument on Mpeg-2, but it does require FAR lower processing power to decode the stream.
Originally Posted by Da DegoHey Hells_Bliss,
First of all, I wrote the piece, not Tim. ;) But second, I wanted to argue with a point above. Not everything on the iphone IS on other phones - they lack the one thing that makes it special, which is the interface.
Apple doesn't claim macs to be more powerful than any computer with windows on it. The specs are the specs. What makes a mac a mac is its interface. Are designer jeans some magical golden cloth? Of course not. And yet they DO do something differently to standard jeans.
Microsoft looked to OSX when it came time to build Vista. Many linux GUIs use it as an example, too. Why? Not because it was sold on a machine with the top specs.
The point of my article was just that - it's not about building the fastest phone with all the bells and whistles. As Nexxo said, the entire functionality of an apple product IS that its interface is so transparent, which is almost unquantifiable. You don't see that in a spec sheet, the same way you can't see "this will flow on you" in a designer clothes tag.
For anyone thinking Apple's steam is entirely form over function, you should definitely look again. It's the same function as you find on a windows PC, or most of the function you find on a cell phone (the lack of 3g does confuse me, too). It's just that the functionality is laid out differently so that you interact differently with it. Apple isn't a hardware maker - it is an industrial design powerhouse that turns out excellent interface software...and might as well make the thing it runs on pretty, too.
To sum up, my basic point is this - what makes a mac product great will never sit on the spec sheet - it's not the lacking 3g, included bluetooth, blah blah blah. It is an interface design that i can assure you will end up in part or whole everywhere in the industry. It's functional fashion, and that should be respected - it has an incredibly important role all its own.
Originally Posted by Hells_Blisssorry, fixed :o
as to the functionality, i really couldn't really argue since I haven't played with one. Sure it's got a pretty interface, and you can apparently get from point a to b pretty quick...but you can do that on most phones. example, i have a SE W710i, if I want to get to my contacts, i press the down cursor. If i want my mp3s, I press the walkman button. If I want the camera, I open the lense. If I want to send a friend a picture of the hot girl at the bar, I take the photo, press more, send now, choose contact, send. if I want silent I press up and then down 4 times. Isn't that functionality? Once again, i can't say how the iphone does it, but probably through a bunch of menus since I don't see a lot of hotkeys.
Is it better than windows mobile? yep, i've definately played with those and I don't like them at all.
would an iPhone "flow" on me, maybe if my name was Nicole Richi or Paris Hilton wearing prada this gucci that and believed in the holy word of "Branding"...other than that, why spend more for a media-hyped smartphone which is behind the times?
Originally Posted by VelesDon't apple fanboys admit they're apple fanboys though?
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