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DarkLord7854 24th March 2007, 12:39 Quote
Aye, I know what you mean, I wanted to ship a game to a friend of mine in the UK, the game cost 17$, to ship internationally they were demanding 30$.
I had them ship it to me, went to USPS, asked them to ship it out, cost me 6$, overnight.
Nedsbeds 24th March 2007, 13:17 Quote
I was looking at Amazon last night. I wanted to buy a fairly obscure cd so looked at both the American version of the site and English. It was a bit cheaper for America so I looked in to purchasing it through there. They were actually quite happy for me to place the order through the american site, and only informed me about the english version briefly, to say that I would get faster delivery ordering from there.
I was quite surprised to be honest. They even had my address saved.

If only more sites would do this.
DougEdey 24th March 2007, 13:19 Quote
Coff *PS3* Coff.
Veles 24th March 2007, 13:31 Quote
Is it just me or does the description of that tea sound exactly like the one on the back of a PG tips box?
bubsterboo 24th March 2007, 13:56 Quote
Yeah, its true. I tried to order something on tigerdirect.COM as it had an exclusive item that i wanted, but it wouldn't let me as my shipping address wasn't in the states. So i was redirected to tigerdirect.CA and they didn't even have the item i wanted!
Gordy 24th March 2007, 14:58 Quote
Its the dollar to pound conversion on most products that gets me. Take a look at the pricing for vista in the EU and try to find a reason for the cost difference. Microsoft sure can't, so they just ignore the question.

Gets me really very angry. Why can we sort out this in the EU, but not force big companies like ms to do it as well. At least Sony are taking a beating with the ps3 partly due to their gouging of the EU and AUS customers. Almost makes me proud :D
ralph.pickering 24th March 2007, 16:43 Quote
I recently wanted to purchase a set of PSU connector tools from a web site in the US. They couldn't have weighed more than a couple of hundred grams. $14 before shipping, over $60 after. So I thought, "I've had trouble buying these in the UK. Maye I should buy 10 and flog the rest on ebay." $240 for shipping. F***** jokers.

Thankfully a set turned up on the B-T For Sale forum, so I snapped those up.
IanW 24th March 2007, 17:05 Quote
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Sometimes they even differ from nation to nation in the UK, along with the large price fluctuation.

I think you meant EU?
yodasarmpit 24th March 2007, 19:11 Quote
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Is there some reason that a graphics card here in the US costs only 70% of what it does in the UK, but gets more than twice the warranty?
You guys get a 2 year warranty ?
DarkLord7854 24th March 2007, 20:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by yodasarmpit
You guys get a 2 year warranty ?

No, it means we get 70% and the 2 year warranty
Veles 24th March 2007, 20:30 Quote
No, means we get 130% price of the US and a 2 year warranty.

1 year warranty is law, in fact, I think in the EU it's as much as 6 years if you know the right rules, shops don't tend to advertise this point :p
Nexxo 24th March 2007, 20:38 Quote
The difficulty in ordering from abroad is down to the same reason we have several different regions for DVDs: price racketeering. Some markets will put up with higher prices than others; some markets are more competitive than others. Consumers in Asia and the US are best off while we over here in Europe are worse off. Go to Australia, New Zealand and the Third World, and you start to really pay.

Of course this strategy only works if people cannot simply buy where the goods are cheapest. The global market/economy is intended to benefit business, not the consumer... Cheap materials and labour force over there, a wealthy and naive consumer market over there. May the two never meet and compare notes.

To wit:

Apple iPod nano, 8Gb version, Apple store US price: $249,-- (£126,90).
Apple iPod nano, 8Gb version, Apple store UK price: £169,-- ($331,61)
Where did the extra £43,-- ($82,61) come in? Shipping? I don't think so. Both units are made in China. Where (in Hong Kong) they are sold for $243,24 (£123,94).

Production cost for the 8Gb version, by the way, is estimated at about $132,-- (£67,27).
bilbothebaggins 24th March 2007, 20:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
No, means we get 130% price of the US and a 2 year warranty.

1 year warranty is law, in fact, I think in the EU it's as much as 6 years if you know the right rules, shops don't tend to advertise this point :p
I think the EU regulations (which countries may choose to make tighter I think) are: 2 or 3 years warranty BUT after 6 month the customer has to prove to the manufacturer that the thing was broken to start with. I never quite understood it really :)

Anyways ... amazon.com is one of the good websites ... ordering there actually always worked great no matter if I ordered at .com / .co.uk or .de

On other occasions it has been easier to get something shipped from the UK to Austria than from Germany
cpemma 24th March 2007, 21:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
1 year warranty is law, in fact, I think in the EU it's as much as 6 years if you know the right rules, shops don't tend to advertise this point :p
They certainly don't, a friend called today saying his gf's laptop was dead in the water, 18-month old; PC-World claimed it was out-of-guarantee. I told him to check his consumer rights and ram them down PC-World's throat.

"the customer has to prove to the manufacturer that the thing was broken to start with" - if it's broken for no obvious reason then it must have been faulty to start with, my non-legal take on that. "Fit for purpose" means expect a few years life.

UK prices of US imports have always been high on some things, I've American textbooks from long ago with the printed prices on the back showing a $1 = £1 exchange rate. And they're full of spelling mistakes. ;)

There are a few firms who'll deal cross-Atlantic without ripping you off, but they're rare, and if you end up paying VAT you may still lose out. There are compensations living here that money can't buy. :D
Aankhen 24th March 2007, 22:22 Quote
I can certainly identify with the article after living here in Canada. Perhaps it's not as bad as the EU, but it's nowhere near as good as it should be; instead of being just across the border, I might as well be back in India for all the difference it makes in terms of what I can buy and how much it costs.
cpemma 24th March 2007, 23:41 Quote
I suppose I could point out, we're not the guys who owe China a zillion bucks for all this imported hardware sold so cheap in some countries. ;)
Bluephoenix 25th March 2007, 03:10 Quote
It happens in reverse as well.

the makrolon (sp?) stuff is perfect for the mod I've been designing, but its not available here, and costs an exorbitant amount to ship. most stuff from anywhere out-of-country here in the US seems to cost far too much to ship unless it's from some far-eastern nation.

Given all the trade tariffs on far-eastern goods, shouldn't it be the reverse?

[edit}: I'm just talking shipping costs, not actual unit prices.
Firehed 25th March 2007, 05:00 Quote
What a sad truth. Lucky for me, I'm in the US so I don't get screwed by this (but then again, we have Bush, so it balances out, if not goes to your favor).

I wonder what the legality of just making a shipping business would be to deal with this. I'd have to assume it's questionable, seeing what happened to Lik-Sang... but I'm always happy to help out a fellow Bit member :)
tacticus 25th March 2007, 11:12 Quote
rip off prices are all too common :(
Speaking as someone who just paid 270AUD for 2 APs that are only 49USD each.

though i must say the freight was quick infact it was faster than getting stuff from inside AU

also don't forget the delays that we get
Sony, Microsoft >:\ world wide launch my arse

edit: not so much sony but microsofts 360 was hardly a world wide release.

sony gets the mention mainly for their laptops and previous behaviour
cpemma 25th March 2007, 14:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by Firehed
I wonder what the legality of just making a shipping business would be to deal with this.
There are some already, but by the time you've paid shipping, our local taxes and their commission you've not always saved anything. Nutech was highly pleased with his £261 imported graphics card, but Specofdust points out Scan had it on offer here at £241.

One of the price-boosters is 17.5% VAT on top of the base price (I think Sales Tax in the US is rarely over 7% (?)), and VAT is even higher in most other European countries (25% in Denmark and Sweden, 22% in Finland, 21% in Ireland). But what we lose on the swings we gain on the roundabouts. I don't need medical insurance for a doctor to look at me. UK students fork out a lot to go to University, but I think a US student pays a lot more to go on to college. And the Canadians have Rose Marie. :)
Sterkenburg 25th March 2007, 19:51 Quote
Hey, if you're serious about this, I REALLY want some stuff on NewEgg shipped up here to Canada :)
Ringold 25th March 2007, 23:48 Quote
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The global market/economy is intended to benefit business, not the consumer...

One and the same, one and the same.. I can drive to WalMart and load up on the things these 'evil capitalists' who only benefit themselves at much, much lower cost than I could if they were made by rednecks in Kentucky. Likewise, I didnt attend a communist-run university, and therefore know how to play with financial markets, so they take those dollars they get from the USA and reinvest it back with us and our skilled labor. Current account deficit balanced by capital account surplus, and all participants walk away happy with growing economies.

Besides, the UK can't complain. Look immediately to your East at low-growth, high-unemployment Europe, and count yourselves lucky! :) The UK has handled globalization extremely well; it's financial services is roughly the best in the world now.

Edit: And to cover my arguement better, those Rednecks in Kentucky, and other low-wage areas of the US, are put to use in product assembly, like car's and trucks, and other higher-skill or more productive work than making shoes or umbrellas -- while receiving first-world wages. Again, everybody benefits.
DMAthlon 25th March 2007, 23:59 Quote
i love america.
NaThRo 26th March 2007, 06:19 Quote
It's not just computer components... I almost died when my mechanic told me I would have to pay AU$550+ for a timing belt kit for my european car (not including the 4-5 hours labour to have it fitted and adjusted). When I checked online I found I could have it shipped here for under AU$200... (which is still kind of expensive, one for an Aussie build car would be AU$100 or less)

I think I'll buy the part and just have him fit it thanks very much.
TechM 26th March 2007, 09:02 Quote
Reminds me of when I wanted to buy a 6800 Ultra graphics card and a copy of the BF2 Armoured/Euro booster pack. It was something like half the price, all told, from Amazon US, but they refused to ship it to a UK address. So what did I do? I had it shipped to a friend of mine in the US and she sent it on. Even after paying shipping I still saved almost £50.

Big corporations have their place. Firmly under the public's heel comes to mind.
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