Jees I read it and thought "OMG! You're little girls some prodigy child running and talking at less than a year old!", then I realised it was talking about the future and there was no need to ask what you've been feeding her.
Would you really pay to watch Solitaire:The Movie or listen to the next James Clunt whilst eaten a food product that has finally achieved 100% inedibility after years of slow decline though?
Thinking about it, I can see the appeal of a Kill Bill remake in that context. Top article :)
i cant believe that. you cant listen to the radio without paying for it? ads printed on the pizza? when will it end! there is no industry i hate more thant he advertisement industry (no offense) they make the stupidest, most boring, most retarded ads that i wish they were all dead! i would start an uprising if this future turned out to be %10 true. if i have to pay mileage tax on my car then i hope that at least going down fighting will still be free.
There'll be "ads by GooglePlex" on all the pizzas...
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Originally Posted by Da Dego We are educated enough to make use of their expertise (and maybe do some ourselves), preventing us from being stuck with this.
We'll be in the following groups, in my opinion:
Sheep. We live life precisely as described.
People-under-a-rock. We use old hardware to stay out of DRM territory. We only watch old or non-DRM independant movies (which would be kinda illegal... non-union work, and stuff.)
Rebels: We break hardware encryption, run Linux on modern hardware, dodge digital security measures, don't cary RFID tags, and cover our tracks very very carefully. We hack and break things a lot.
Prisoners: Same as the Rebels, but Big Brother caught up with us.
Originally Posted by zr_ox How many of you all have pirate movies, software & music at home?
My guess....ALL OF YOU! Cant complain about the problem when your part of the root cause!
[Sarcasm]I bought Pirates of the Caribbean thats a pirate movie. [/Sarcasm]
I do aggree that if you are illeagly downloading media that it contributes to the problem.But the industry does push people that way if it wasn't for open office we would have to shell out $340 for office which i think is way to high for that set of programs. I remember about 2 or 3 years ago you could get an a copy with a computer(OEM version) for about $10-$20. That shear increase in price only make the problem worse.
im suprised this hasnt happenned allready. whilst we are all arguing on a forum, they are sneaking up behind us with the big DRM brain implants.... you thought 'britney', that will be $1 please, or we'll have the riaa and mpaa remove those neurons....
but on a more serious note.... pop will eat itself, or it will if the drm debacle continues. it will get worse before it gets better, then things will settle down to a happy medium, exactly the way things did with pc software (remember screaming cause you couldnt copy a disk? now games being copy protected is just accepted).
as always, those that can, will. those that cant, will live with drm. pc software went through the same schisms, music is doing the same thing. eventually people realise that no matter what protections you use, it is never enough, ever. even in the articles scenario, its not enough. all it takes is one smart cookie with two much time on his hands and a lot of patience. sooner or later everyone will stop chasing their tails and settle down to 'sensible' drm and copy protection, and the riaa and mpaa will run out of people to sue.
Recording/Film companies are doing something horribly wrong when you can get the same media in higher qualities, sooner and without ads for free and the only downside is it's not legal.
Everything legal has ads, comes in 7 different editions, you never know which version you want and when you do it's impossible to find, has horrible quality, and are as expensive as they can be. And f**k, my TiVo doesn't even skip commercials anymore.
With legal prosecution (persecution) of little girls and dying grandmothers record companies are going to help their image and it isn't going to fix the problem. Neither is new legislation, the DMCA and the Anal(ogue) Hole Bill (it's a real US Bill) aren't helping.
Be real capitalists, give the consumer what they want and stop trying to make it illegal for them to consume in un-ideal ways.
The age of the record company is over, if you cant find a legitimate way to survive you dont deserve to.
Disclaimer:I in no way encourage or condone committing any act deemed 'Illegal' and all references to the qualities of pirated material are purely speculation and do not indicate the act of criminally obtaining copyrighted material. I do not pirate material. Pirating is bad. Pirating is terrorism. Continued, so on and so forth...
This would make a really good book. Reminds me of 1984. I do think this is looking at the negatives and paiting a grisly picture. While some of it will no doubt happen to some extent or another.. some of it wont. I think the reality lies somewhere between that and where we are today.
I think a lot of this is actually going to happen, but I think that it will split people between mediums. Those who just follow the corporate dragon will find themselves doing just that, and the more tech-savvy just switching out to alternate OSs. Look at the positive response to the open-source community since more user-friendly version of Linux have become more readily available. I say this with my tongue in check, as im writing this from a windows box. That's because games are made for windows, and while porting them to linux is possible, i'm just lazy.
Chris has painted a rather bleak view of the future but it won't be all bad. A lot of his points seem to appear in an article I wrote called "How the world should be". For example, why go down to a shop to buy a DVD when you want to watch a movie? Wouldn't it be much easier if it was streamed via your broadband TV service from a massive selection of movies? You might want to pay to watch it once or buy it to watch as many times as you want. They might even give you free versions with adverts in between. Our choices about how we watch movies remain the same the only difference is that we don't have lots of discs lying around and DVD boxes cluttering our shelves. iTunes has been a big success for music so it's bound to happen for movies at some point.
The idea that everything will be taxed or paid for probably won't become realised as much as Chris portends. Unless people accept it, it probably won't be enforced. I would have thought most people would prefer quick tasty pizza to pretty, artificially coloured pizza. There's no way people will accept to carrying around an RFID tag that could identify where they are and control what they can and can't do and if they do accept it then it will probably be because it gives more benefits than inconvenience.
Free things won't simply die out. Google is a great example of the money to be made in supplying free services. Adverts are a good thing if used wisely. Radio will always be free so long as it is possible to make money from the listeners in some way.
I could go on but in general I beleive that technology has a lot great things yet in store for us.
where ever there people with rules , there are more people around intent to break them. any drm will eventually be circumvented, technology can be hacked and it is up to those that can to free others from the oppresion of drm and equally oppressive and offensive tech. as long as people are willing to continue voiding warranties and give the thumb to the man(whomever the man may be) this kind of reality will never exist. it is up to us the geeks, hackers, nerds, tech gurus, (the list goes on but i won't) to make sure this doesn't happen. information is power! VIVE LA REVOLUTION! DOWN WITH THE MAN! ok sorry about that i get a little carried away somtimes but i think my point is made.
Originally Posted by Techno-Dann Prisoners: Same as the Rebels, but Big Brother caught up with us.
:) But of course, you forgot that they're also confined into a small space with other pr0n-deprived geeks who got caught.
If I thought that companies would use ad space to make the end-product cheaper for the consumer, it wouldn't bother me. But they continue to add more ads while raising prices more, and it goes as follows:
(before you ask, it's been a LONG time since I've done any coding, so don't bother fixing it)
It's somewhat the idea of paying for premium content. Unfortunately, premium isn't ad-free either, and the normal stuff is still overpriced, let alone free. They could curb piracy hugely by going for the free, ad-supported/pay, no ads method (of course it wouldn't take long for people to strip the ads, but they still make a bit), but rather it's the people who don't pay still get the best quality content, and the people who pay that get to put up with the crap.
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ReplyWould you really pay to watch Solitaire:The Movie or listen to the next James Clunt whilst eaten a food product that has finally achieved 100% inedibility after years of slow decline though?
Thinking about it, I can see the appeal of a Kill Bill remake in that context. Top article :)
i cant believe that. you cant listen to the radio without paying for it? ads printed on the pizza? when will it end! there is no industry i hate more thant he advertisement industry (no offense) they make the stupidest, most boring, most retarded ads that i wish they were all dead! i would start an uprising if this future turned out to be %10 true. if i have to pay mileage tax on my car then i hope that at least going down fighting will still be free.
We'll be in the following groups, in my opinion:
Sheep. We live life precisely as described.
People-under-a-rock. We use old hardware to stay out of DRM territory. We only watch old or non-DRM independant movies (which would be kinda illegal... non-union work, and stuff.)
Rebels: We break hardware encryption, run Linux on modern hardware, dodge digital security measures, don't cary RFID tags, and cover our tracks very very carefully. We hack and break things a lot.
Prisoners: Same as the Rebels, but Big Brother caught up with us.
I do aggree that if you are illeagly downloading media that it contributes to the problem.But the industry does push people that way if it wasn't for open office we would have to shell out $340 for office which i think is way to high for that set of programs. I remember about 2 or 3 years ago you could get an a copy with a computer(OEM version) for about $10-$20. That shear increase in price only make the problem worse.
but on a more serious note.... pop will eat itself, or it will if the drm debacle continues. it will get worse before it gets better, then things will settle down to a happy medium, exactly the way things did with pc software (remember screaming cause you couldnt copy a disk? now games being copy protected is just accepted).
as always, those that can, will. those that cant, will live with drm. pc software went through the same schisms, music is doing the same thing. eventually people realise that no matter what protections you use, it is never enough, ever. even in the articles scenario, its not enough. all it takes is one smart cookie with two much time on his hands and a lot of patience. sooner or later everyone will stop chasing their tails and settle down to 'sensible' drm and copy protection, and the riaa and mpaa will run out of people to sue.
Everything legal has ads, comes in 7 different editions, you never know which version you want and when you do it's impossible to find, has horrible quality, and are as expensive as they can be. And f**k, my TiVo doesn't even skip commercials anymore.
With legal prosecution (persecution) of little girls and dying grandmothers record companies are going to help their image and it isn't going to fix the problem. Neither is new legislation, the DMCA and the Anal(ogue) Hole Bill (it's a real US Bill) aren't helping.
Be real capitalists, give the consumer what they want and stop trying to make it illegal for them to consume in un-ideal ways.
The age of the record company is over, if you cant find a legitimate way to survive you dont deserve to.
Disclaimer:I in no way encourage or condone committing any act deemed 'Illegal' and all references to the qualities of pirated material are purely speculation and do not indicate the act of criminally obtaining copyrighted material. I do not pirate material. Pirating is bad. Pirating is terrorism. Continued, so on and so forth...
Speculating is always fun though.
Simple like that.
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The idea that everything will be taxed or paid for probably won't become realised as much as Chris portends. Unless people accept it, it probably won't be enforced. I would have thought most people would prefer quick tasty pizza to pretty, artificially coloured pizza. There's no way people will accept to carrying around an RFID tag that could identify where they are and control what they can and can't do and if they do accept it then it will probably be because it gives more benefits than inconvenience.
Free things won't simply die out. Google is a great example of the money to be made in supplying free services. Adverts are a good thing if used wisely. Radio will always be free so long as it is possible to make money from the listeners in some way.
I could go on but in general I beleive that technology has a lot great things yet in store for us.
Coming to a home near your, from Sky, very soon :)
Glad to see some things will never change. :D
If I thought that companies would use ad space to make the end-product cheaper for the consumer, it wouldn't bother me. But they continue to add more ads while raising prices more, and it goes as follows:
while $sales > 0 { $profit++; } else { do_add(moreads, tomovies); }(before you ask, it's been a LONG time since I've done any coding, so don't bother fixing it)It's somewhat the idea of paying for premium content. Unfortunately, premium isn't ad-free either, and the normal stuff is still overpriced, let alone free. They could curb piracy hugely by going for the free, ad-supported/pay, no ads method (of course it wouldn't take long for people to strip the ads, but they still make a bit), but rather it's the people who don't pay still get the best quality content, and the people who pay that get to put up with the crap.
Famous last words.
Or I dream of electic sheep, for those that read the novel. I don't know if I remember watching Ghost in the shell... but i was probably just high.
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