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Sim0n 15th December 2005, 11:25 Quote
Can i have some of what KNA is on, it must be dutch :P
mclean007 15th December 2005, 12:13 Quote
I love these flights of fancy, because, while Chris's tongue is clearly planted firmly in cheek, the irony is that so much of that stuff is inevitably going to happen in some form or other.
SyxPak 15th December 2005, 12:13 Quote
/mode #life +oppress
Hybr1d 15th December 2005, 12:21 Quote
Hahaha, I sincerely hope your wrong but the way things are this could be fairly plausible :(
allforcarrie 15th December 2005, 12:21 Quote
Its so true!
zr_ox 15th December 2005, 12:39 Quote
Interesting read but I think you've been watching way to many sci-fi movies!
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Originally Posted by mclean007
so much of that stuff is inevitably going to happen in some form or other.

lmfao.....Remeber the Y2K Bug scenario ah ha ha ha

Not for the next 40 generations....thats if we have not been hit by an asteroid, or have been swallowed up by the ocean, or have been made into batteries or are in the middle of an ice-age.....oh my god!

Not a chance!
_DTM2000_ 15th December 2005, 12:50 Quote
I would be very supprised if things don't end up like that. If M$ and $ony (to name a couple) get their way, we wouldn't own anything anymore but still have to pay the same.
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As Steve comes in the music shuts off, his RFID tag triggering the Transmission Rights scanner in my stereo (to ensure that only those who've paid for the music can listen to it).
Thats exactly the type of thing that is likely to happen and it makes my blood boil when I think about it. >:(
I can only hope that if any company tries to use technology like this, everyone will stop buying their products. If everyone complians enough and doesn't buy the products, this sort of nonsense will never become a reality.

Viva la resistance!
mclean007 15th December 2005, 12:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by zr_ox
lmfao.....Remeber the Y2K Bug scenario ah ha ha ha

Not for the next 40 generations....thats if we have not been hit by an asteroid, or have been swallowed up by the ocean, or have been made into batteries or are in the middle of an ice-age.....oh my god!

Not a chance!
Okay, I'm not a sci-fi believing, conspiracy theorist muppet, but some of the stuff in that article is already on the way:

(1) oppressive DRM;
(2) content providers shifting their 'sales' model to one where you never own the content, you rent it from them;
(3) attempts by games producers to restrict access to the game to the original purchaser (by prohibiting resale);
(4) ludicrously over-zealous censorship (hence the blue blood reference - who remembers that version of Carmageddon?);
(5) local councils taxing people for not recycling, yet providing woeful pick-up services;
(6) government taxing the heck out of everything they can - congestion charging, stealth tax rises, speed cameras, parking permits, increased public transport costs, proposals to charge for road use by mileage;
(7) product placement and unskippable ads

It's all there. Chris's article may be lighthearted, but he's making some serious points too. In the words of David Brent "I am not a plonker". I consider my words carefully before writing, so I'd appreciate it if you actually read and thought about things before ridiculing someone else's opinion.
MonkeyTurnip 15th December 2005, 13:59 Quote
that was a good read, and i agree with mclean007,

i just hope it doesnt happen in my life time
MiNiMaL_FuSS 15th December 2005, 14:13 Quote
the penguins, they killed...my god..its alreayd begun..send help! dear god no...ahhh....
kickarse 15th December 2005, 14:52 Quote
Great faux editorial on where things are heading..
LoneArchon 15th December 2005, 15:21 Quote
mclean007 you forgot the degrade in media quality. how all music cds cost the same and you are getting less overall songs and there is only a 1 or 2 good songs. I recently got an import cd from japan(Anime OST) and it had some type of sony DRM on it. I didn't install it i couldn't it read the promts anyway. I looked in nero at the track list and i was able to rip just the audio track to a new cd with out an issue and now can play the copy in WMP with out installing the sony crap. But thy are becoming over protective of there content but with this effort the content quality is degrading and costs for the service are increasing.
Reaper_Unreal 15th December 2005, 15:23 Quote
Please don't give them any more ideas. The problem with that is that it all seems so possible. If things like that start to happen, I'll simply move into the forest, without electricity and live off of the land. I'll be an unnamed hermit.

The worst part of all that if you ask me, is the part where they nickle and dime you to death. How long before you have to hack your own RFID chip to be able to watch TV?
RotoSequence 15th December 2005, 16:11 Quote
That was damned scary. I pray to God things dont go that way.
Firehed 15th December 2005, 16:21 Quote
I'd like to think there will be a mass revolt before that time. Perhaps Democracy 2.0 will take over by that time (google it, wiki-based government). It's rather sad how we're headed that way...
zr_ox 15th December 2005, 16:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by mclean007
so I'd appreciate it if you actually read and thought about things before ridiculing someone else's opinion.

You cannot be sane saying what you did and then end your rant with that statement.......shame on you! hypocrite

I'm entitled to my opinion!

The trouble is that the majority of poeple want everything for free, hack this crack that to save some money.

If people started buying more music, films & software it WOULD be much easier to drive the prices down. Economies would be more stable and generally life would be better....bla bla bla!

What do you expect manufacturers to do! They need to safe-guard their investment. When they have to start aggressivley protecting this it lets you see just big a problem piracy has become. How many of you all have pirate movies, software & music at home?

My guess....ALL OF YOU! Cant complain about the problem when your part of the root cause!

As for violence censorship..."Numerous studies have proved that When large numbers of youths (including young adults) are exposed to many hours of media violence, even a small effect can have extremeley large societal consequences". - C.A. Anderson Journal of Adolescence 27 (2004)

I could go on, but wont. Its my opinion, choosing not to say something when I disagree would be wrong! And anyway did I disagree with it...no! I just think the time frame is wrong.
mclean007 15th December 2005, 16:46 Quote
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You cannot be sane saying what you did and then end your rant with that statement.......shame on you! hypocrite
Er...what? How about explaining what you're talking about?
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I'm entitled to my opinion!
Yes, you are, and I welcome intelligent contribution to the debate. What I object to, however, is the fact that you quoted me and then wrote something totally vacuous - "lmfao.....Remeber the Y2K Bug scenario ah ha ha ha" - which comes across as very disrespectful.
Hybr1d 15th December 2005, 16:53 Quote
Enough of the flame war, eh guys? Opinions differ and people's views clash, just move on ;)
zr_ox 15th December 2005, 16:55 Quote
Okay:

You complained that I ridiculed his opinion, and then you go ahead and ridicule my opinion - thats called hypocracy!

Your second gripe is a mater of interpretation!
mclean007 15th December 2005, 16:56 Quote
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Enough of the flame war, eh guys? Opinions differ and people's views clash, just move on ;)
Fair enough, but I want it on the record that I am right and zr_ox is naughty :D
Da Dego 15th December 2005, 17:15 Quote
Haha...the two of you, behave. zr_ox, it would be nice to hear you phrase your points in a somewhat less, well, offending manner...I got the same vibe as mclean and I'm a bystander in this. Besides, as you cite your reports, please start reading some financial data on the effects piracy has had on the music and film industry...the answer is about zero. The term 'phantom-loss' (or 'paper-loss') comes to mind...you don't lose sales by people seeing things that they would never have paid to see. If anything, it actually increases revenue because more people are willing to take the chance to listen to it or see it if it's free, and they then buy it (see some of my previous points on shareware). The media companies are using it as a leverage point to shift the way they do business, that's all there is to it.

As for the article, Chris...your tongue-in-cheek view of the future is a very scary thing indeed. But I think you miss one important point. YOU will never suffer from this. Nor will most of us on this forum. Not because of time or technology (because I think this future is far more likely than not to happen with the next 20 years), but simply because there will always be breakers, hackers, and crackers of the technology. We are educated enough to make use of their expertise (and maybe do some ourselves), preventing us from being stuck with this. It's the average joe who's life will become this...the one who doesn't know better than to go along with it.
HellRazor 15th December 2005, 18:41 Quote
Wow...thats what its going to be like... I'm almost sure of it!

He prolly travelled back in time to tell us too! *Of course he's only renting the software to do so, and can't get home because he doesn't own it, and would have to stream it*
I_Slider_I 15th December 2005, 18:53 Quote
Countries with high urban to rural poplation ratios are prime pickings for this type of facist government/corporate involvement. I would say that it is not actually that difficult to achieve this type of subversion on a mass scale. However the key is the illusion of freedom, it is the idea of the Matrix or living in a virtual world where we become less and less involved in our own lives but rather leave virtually everything up to somebody else to worry about.

It begs the question of why do we want other people thinking for us, and what is the big thrill about sitting down and not doing anything all day. Electric technology is nothing but an extention of our chemical and electronic brain. It is not ment to replace our brain but to enhance it, to be more of a global village, not contain it.
Darkangel 15th December 2005, 19:06 Quote
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How many of you all have pirate movies, software & music at home?
if you asked that in a forum dedicated to dogs you'd get a different answer lol
im sorry but if they didnt bother with all this write protection and anti piracy branches they'd have more money wouldnt they... they just buy pointless bling or fasion fades with theyre money, yet I go to work everyday of the week and am forced to buy christmas presents simply to line somone elses pockets
:'( they can cry me a river :)
Thunder_return 15th December 2005, 19:40 Quote
Hmm , there is some in those words that can be reality
in about ten years.
The fast evolving of technology is nomore a
positive thing for us that like to use all kind
of home entertainment and home technology.
Instead , it bust us up through all kinds of
securitysystems and keycodes.
Hell , if this are our future i dont want to
live in a community anymore.
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