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Awoken 8th December 2005, 16:39 Quote
Tiny typo, ironically in a paragraph about the lack of accuracy in IT journalism:
"I was really struck but his thoughts on print IT magazines"
Time for a quick edit?
Cheese 8th December 2005, 16:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Awoken
Tiny typo, ironically in a paragraph about the lack of accuracy in IT journalism:
"I was really struck but his thoughts on print IT magazines"
Time for a quick edit?

I'm sure it was put there for irony ;)
Awoken 8th December 2005, 16:46 Quote
Just finished the article, good stuff Will!
Nath 8th December 2005, 16:50 Quote
Great read, I can understand how online publications would receive less respect than print publications as pointed out in the article, it's a lot more expensive to print a magazine than get hosting and a domain name.

I think that bit-tech delivers content of equal, or even better quality than most print publications available at the moment, with a lot less ads too. For example in the average PC magazine a graphics card might be reviewed in a single page, but most (if not all) similar reviews on this site are at least 4-5 pages long.
Da Dego 8th December 2005, 16:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cheese
I'm sure it was put there for irony ;)
we have a winner. :)
Mattt 8th December 2005, 17:00 Quote
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I can say fairly safely that we're not about to print a magazine any time soon


aww but you know we want you to!
Reaper_Unreal 8th December 2005, 17:28 Quote
To be honest, I get a pc magazine every month, one that shall we say, takes things to the maximum. I often find that the content on bit-tech is better written, newer, and more accurate than this magazine. Not to mention that you have loads of people that will gladly tell you when you made a typo. In fact, I'm so happy with the bit-tech service that I've been recieving for the past 4.5 years (I think), that I'm going to click on 25 of your banners.

Keep up the good work.


Edit: I'd buy your print magazine!
Aphex_ 8th December 2005, 17:30 Quote
i have to say that i personally give a lot more respect to the online community for tech updates, in particular bit-tech, i like coming on every morning and afternoon looking for new news etc.

i can see why paper publications get more respect, though i dont think they always deserve it. the testing methods esp are not even in the same league with bit-tech, focusing on synthetic tests as oppossed to real world game play. the way bit-tech tests is the way all things should be tested, they way that they will actually work in real things.

i think the other thing that online publications have over paper is the community behind them, whilst a on paper may have a team of journalists we here have thousands of ppl to comment on, speculate on, give their own experiences and help out. the recent news competition is indicative of that. we're not given a selected few comments that might have been edited along the way as well.

paper publications also draw on the online community for their material, cpc being an example featuring cases from coolmeister and leeum who frequent here as well as paul's [coolmiester's] own site. without us they wouldnt have the a lot of material that they need to stay alive.

anyway, rant over, bit-tech rox and keep on doing what ur doing!!
Fiver 8th December 2005, 17:48 Quote
Poor writing is a given on the Internet, even a site like bbc.co.uk is full of errors, but most people forgive the odd Typo.
supermonkey 8th December 2005, 18:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Reaper_Unreal
I often find that the content on bit-tech is better written, newer, and more accurate than this magazine.

Newer content is also a by-product of the immediacy of internet publishing. When you factor in printing and delivery times, stories for most print magazines have to be submitted far enough in advance to be reviewed, edited and placed in the magazine.

Print publications are also very limited in space; therefore, content sometimes suffers in the name . After all of the ad space is sold, journalists have to compete for dwindling space in the magazine, and the remaining space must be formatted so that the ads and content happily share the limited physical size of the sheet. This came up all the time when I worked at a newspaper. The page editors would grab a random story off the AP wire to fill a hole in tehe page. If the story was too big to fit on the page, they would just cut off the last paragraph. The result was an otherwise well-written article, with a rather abrupt and non-sensical ending.

With internet publishing, page size is all but irrelevant. Sure, there may be some tweaking due to banner ads and such, but the physical space is a non-issue. You can devote a lot of webspace to an article to provide as much content as possible.

I think print and internet publishing share a good balance. When I'm travelling, sitting in the doctor's office, or otherwise away from the internet, it's nice to read through a magazine article. A concise story, from beginning to end, with enough details to give me a big picture of the story. If I want more information, I'll turn to the internet when I get home and have more time to devote to the subject.

Doomsayers have been predicting the end of the print newspaper for many years now.

-monkey
Alwayz Dead 8th December 2005, 19:15 Quote
Personally I think that the industry should wake up and be very proud of reviews/awards given by the likes of Bit-tech and its peers. I wouldn’t dream of relying on the PC press for information and opinion alone when I’m into buying new kit.

I want reviews by users and I want to compare these reviews and match against other alternative equipment reviews. Magazines may give me a pointer to something I am interested in but news is often “newer” on the web.

Of course there are fly by night sites but it is easy to distinguish between those that are bedroom hobbyists and those that are of the same calibre as Bit-tech. Lets face it, the Press in either the guise of tabloid or glossy magazine are just as able when it comes to misquotes, embellishment and just being completely wrong.

It’s not that I am a young man that has grown up with the web either. I’m 47 and I am sorry to say I am part of the generation that helped spoil with hype and promises of quick money what is a fantastic medium for instant information in small or large doses at a few clicks.

I used to buy shed loads of mags but rarely get beyond a flick through in the local newsagent nowadays. If I want reviews and user opinion I surf.

Wake up mag publishers, you are riding a wave of historical smugness, broadband is here. I don’t need an overpriced mag with a CD/DVD full of stuff I can download or printed content that is only as fresh as when it went to press, especially when you want £5.00 or sio for it.
I bet I am not part of a minority either. – Might be worth a poll.

Hell I go on a bit – sorry
Meanmotion 8th December 2005, 22:44 Quote
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I'm a great believer in the high moral ground


This is definetly one of the reasons i've come to regard bit-tech as my primary source of IT information - everything seems appropriate, well thought out, and generally professional. ;)
Bindibadgi 8th December 2005, 23:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mattt
aww but you know we want you to!

But there are so many advantages to the internet:

Daily updates
To-the-minute tech news (well, almost)
International news, and international appeal
True, we may not have UK tailored articles but we enjoy having the strong Anglo-US majority, followed closely by EU, but we also have a multinational readership. But then again, we have an international team of people. Without it we couldnt bring you the best mods from every corner of the planet.

I think the most overriding factor is: It's free
MrWillyWonka 9th December 2005, 10:48 Quote
Finally read the article, it's good.

But I have to somewhat disagree with the guy who says online IT articles should be more accurate, something out of the FT.

I like articles to be laid back, if it is being "too professional", you do not feel so invloved if you get what I mean. I don't mean not having typos (although a couple we can point out makes us look good :D) but an article in the style you get in the financial times just doesn't interest me, there are some sites and magazines that does this and they do not interest me.

I like bit-tech's style and how they relate to forum members, the community. You should keep it this way, and as others agree there is nothing wrong, bit-tech does a superb job!

So, what is bit-tech's manifesto for 2006?
jezmck 9th December 2005, 12:13 Quote
I'd donate money if there was button...
Sp! 9th December 2005, 12:18 Quote
I read a lot less print publications then I did say 3 or 4 years ago, because when I do read them now I really feel that there out of date as I've usually seen those screen shots or read that news story on the internet already.

That said a magazine or newspaper for that matter is an absolute must when I'm going on a long train journey (as you can garantee my laptop batteries will die or I won't get a seat with a nice table) or on holiday (ever tried reading a tft on a beach?? it's damn near impossible) and there always the convience of not having to worry who's eyeing up your laptop or just the disposability of thinking well I've read it so I don't need to carry it arround with me and binning that mag or newspaper. and takeing your laptop when your going for a s**t is just morally worng (and always gets wierd looks if you work in an office)

I can't see then end for printed media anytime soon......
Nature 9th December 2005, 12:21 Quote
Just look at the blinking baby at the top of the screen and tell me thats not proffesionalism....

I'm a gamer. I like to make things die on my crt and understand the technology that lets it happen. The bit-tech is the site I come to "first: when I go to an Internet cafe', everyday.
Tim S 9th December 2005, 13:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nature
Just look at the blinking baby at the top of the screen and tell me thats not proffesionalism....
It's a discussion forum - it'd be another matter altogether if I used a blinking baby at the top of every article I wrote...
Muunsyr 9th December 2005, 14:36 Quote
Cheers, Bit-tech.
I have come to appreciate bit-tech more and more over the last few years, now to the point where I check bit-tech for updates before other sites and read pretty much every (main) article regardless of whether it immediately grabs my attention or not. There is only a few other hardware sites that I read on a regular basis, and generally only read those that provide well informed, well balanced reviews.

Strangely enough, I have found most print tech magazines to be less informative, and more biased in their views than Bit-tech and other on-line sites (not all, just the ones I read most of). Quite the opposite really (to manufacturers opinions). Cheers again.

Not too forget that the online publications are almost always far more up to date than those in print. Thank you to the bit-tech team.
Darkangel 9th December 2005, 15:45 Quote
if your wanting reasons online is better:
faster news
free
alot easier to find the info your wanting (than flicking thru a mag)

bit tech wouldnt really work as well as a mag because all the content is online already
you go to a printed mags website and theres not as much as their is in the publication

also you dont have annoying crap full page ads for games/hardware :)
bittech has done a brilliant job of incorporating advertising... how popular its become would be a different matter if there were sponsored word links or picture ads made to look like a photo relative to the article

btw id love to point out a mistake you made... but i think id be called a hypocrite :P
arkadur 22nd December 2005, 20:10 Quote
look great and promssing like your other project
can't wait for part 2 :)
hurry up man!
M_D_K 2nd March 2006, 18:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
But there are so many advantages to the internet:

Daily updates
To-the-minute tech news (well, almost)
International news, and international appeal
True, we may not have UK tailored articles but we enjoy having the strong Anglo-US majority, followed closely by EU, but we also have a multinational readership. But then again, we have an international team of people. Without it we couldnt bring you the best mods from every corner of the planet.

I think the most overriding factor is: It's free


Nothing is free you have to pay for your net, the people that print the news have to pay for the webspace etc.... Paper article still have there place, the internet is the future but its definatly not free yet.


Morgan.
Tulatin 2nd March 2006, 22:40 Quote
*braaaaains* This poor thread slept soundly for two and a half months before ressurected. Now, how long until it's put back to the grave...
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