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Hardware 25 - What, no Tanks?

Posted on 8th Jul 2011 at 14:20 by Podcast with 11 comments

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It's been a while since our last podcast so James, Paul, Antony and Harry had plenty to talk about when they took their seats in the studio this week.

First on the agenda was James and Paul's trip to Computex in Taiwan, where they got to see what the industry had planned for the next six months. Certain things were of particular interest to us though such as the LGA2011 boards being shown at the exhibition.

The other big slice of news that's hit since our last podcast is the launch of AMD's new desktop Lynx processors. The APUs (as AMD calls them) are potentially interesting for those looking for a low cost rig that's also capable of gaming.

Finally, we sneak in a little discussion about Intel's new 50-core maths co-processor card and attempt to answer a reader question about thermal compound.

As always, we've also set up our weekly competition, the lucky winner of which will walk away with a brand new Corsair VX550W PSU.

Hardware 25 - What, no Tanks?

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l3v1ck 8th July 2011, 15:50 Quote
Sweet! Downloading now.
do_it_anyway 8th July 2011, 18:56 Quote
Thanks guys.

Tomorrows run along the canal will be a little more enjoyable now :)
Xir 8th July 2011, 19:10 Quote
You tested this PPSU in what...2008?
Farfalho 8th July 2011, 21:21 Quote
Great Podcast.

I've used for several times the Zalman STG-1, the brushy one, it was cool and very easy to apply but since I was running out of it, i've searched for new and better ones and came across the Arctic Silver 5. MX-2 I've used in my times of pc technician and it was alright. MX-3 just resembles mashed potatoes or even ciment due to its viscosity, just a no no. Have been using the clear film on the finger method because I believe it's the best when not using a proper brush but the video you talked about is quite good to explain to most of us which method is best.

The video you were talking about is this one, I believe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXLu1Ms-q4

Hope it helps everyone.
Xir 11th July 2011, 12:07 Quote
I use the "credit-card" method for spreading a thin even film :D
Old-fashion razor-blades work very well too just take the one from the heroin kit :D
Combatus 11th July 2011, 12:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Farfalho
Great Podcast.

I've used for several times the Zalman STG-1, the brushy one, it was cool and very easy to apply but since I was running out of it, i've searched for new and better ones and came across the Arctic Silver 5. MX-2 I've used in my times of pc technician and it was alright. MX-3 just resembles mashed potatoes or even ciment due to its viscosity, just a no no. Have been using the clear film on the finger method because I believe it's the best when not using a proper brush but the video you talked about is quite good to explain to most of us which method is best.

The video you were talking about is this one, I believe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXLu1Ms-q4

Hope it helps everyone.

Yep that's the one! I think what it shows is that some TIMs such as AS5, do require spreading as they are too thick for this to happen using the mounting pressure alone - personally I've had better results using AS5 spread using the finger method than I have grain of rice + mount pressure method. However, I'm much more in favour of using less viscous TIMs such as MX2 and using the cross method now.
RedFlames 11th July 2011, 13:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Combatus
Yep that's the one! I think what it shows is that some TIMs such as AS5, do require spreading as they are too thick for this to happen using the mounting pressure alone - personally I've had better results using AS5 spread using the finger method than I have grain of rice + mount pressure method. However, I'm much more in favour of using less viscous TIMs such as MX2 and using the cross method now.

i find some thermal goo benefits from being warmed up a little before application... a quick run under the hot tap usually does the trick... makes it easier to spread out...
l3v1ck 12th July 2011, 10:51 Quote
Is there actually a release date for Bulldozer yet?
Material 12th July 2011, 11:01 Quote
It's expected in September but AMD wont say anything official.
John_T 12th July 2011, 12:30 Quote
Yeah, that was good stuff re: the TIM spreading. I've always (for 10 years plus) scraped a tiny amount over with the film over finger method, then added a (half) grain of rice sized dot in the middle. I'll definitely be switching to the cross method after this.

I've used Arctic silver 5 for as long as I can remember as well - think I'll have to use one of these MX compounds next time...

I like learning stuff! :)
pdjblum 13th July 2011, 04:26 Quote
Though I agree the igp on Sandy Bridge is grossly inferior to the llano solution, I think it is disingenuous to suggest that it was after thought based on it not supporting DirectX11, which you incorrectly suggest is supported by most games.
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