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Hardware 16 - The RAM Raiders

Posted on 9th Dec 2010 at 14:19 by Podcast with 29 comments

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We're back on air with another hardware podcast. This week Paul, James, Harry and Antony get together to discuss some of the latest goings on in the world of computer hardware.

First up on the agenda is the new graphics card releases from Nvidia - the GTX 580 and GTX 570. Harry has spent a lot of time with both cards over the last few weeks, so he walks us through what's new about the two cards.

James also puts Paul on the spot by grilling him on what he's been up to with the Sandy Bridge processors in our labs. Obviously we weren't able to go into too many details as Intel is keeping Sandy Bridge performance numbers top secret at the moment, but we share what we can.

Finally we move on to talk about what is currently happening in the world of RAM as the market has seen a number of high profile launches over the past couple of weeks. We also squeeze in the usual guess the hardware competition and a couple of your questions too.

We'd also just like to mention that we've overhauled the way in which we produce podcasts recently, so we're better set up to actually record and release one per week, as has always been the aim. As a result there will be a lot more airtime to fill and we're looking to you guys to help us with that by emailing your questions or topic requests to podcast@custompc.co.uk.

We'll check the email before every games or hardware podcast and use the suggestions that you've sent in. If there is a certain area or product that you'd like us to discuss, now is your chance to get us to do so.

We'd also just like to apologize for how quiet James is in this podcast. He's been sufficiently reprimanded and promises to sit closer to the microphone next time.

As ever the bit-tech hardware podcast features music by Brad Sucks and was recorded on Shure microphones. You can download the podcast direct, listen in-browser or subscribe through iTunes using the links below - be sure to let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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wuyanxu 9th December 2010, 15:35 Quote
4GB RAM sticks, oh yeah!

on the day i forgot my headphones :( and still got the last gaming podcast to listen.
Ljs 9th December 2010, 15:55 Quote
ZOoom! Made me chuckle...

*Edit*

I honestly didn't realise it was a kind of a lottery with manufacturers regarding graphics cards and cores. Interesting!
Bloody_Pete 9th December 2010, 16:11 Quote
Need to sort the sound levels out guys. Apart from that, cracking stuff :)
Material 9th December 2010, 17:01 Quote
The levels are a little low, I'm looking into amplifying it further and re-uploading it.
DragunovHUN 9th December 2010, 17:08 Quote
I didn't win :(

Is it because i'm hungarian?
Material 9th December 2010, 17:11 Quote
Ok, we've amplified the Podcast a little and the new version is now up, if you downloaded it before and it was a little quiet then try again, the new versions should be better.

@ DragunovHUN - we pick the person at random, keep plugging away and I'm sure you'll win some day :D
lga45 9th December 2010, 18:00 Quote
Loved the podcast, thank you. Very happy to hear that sandy bridge is going to blow everything else out of the water, in spite of all your nudge nudge wink wink can't say anything... in fact you spent a good 10 mins on the innuendo - methinks you dust exaggerate the misdirection a little too obviously... So, I hope intel continue to send you samples in the future, even though you gave the game away this time around :)

Love the magazine too btw, recently subscribed on zinio. But OMG, the Zinio reader what an awful product - have you ever tried it? Given that I read Custom PC on a top end "crazy but cool" PC, it sure as hell runs slowly, clunkily and stutteringly. I can run Crysis at 2560x1600 more convincingly than I can read your little ol magazine on the zinio reader. Kick Zinio/Adobe's asses for me sometime will you, pretty please?
jcb121 9th December 2010, 20:06 Quote
Damn, I just bought a Core i5 and a 1156 mobo :(
l3v1ck 9th December 2010, 20:16 Quote
You guys and your practical jokes, I thought my download was corrupt to begin with.
l3v1ck 9th December 2010, 20:56 Quote
RAM breaks the most often?
Clearly you've never owned Fujitsu hard drives!!!
runadumb 9th December 2010, 22:21 Quote
I haven't had a chance too listen to the podcast yet, will do so tomorrow but I should be on topic here as it is the hardware podcast. I would ask this in the email link you have up there but the answer won't be much use to me next month, so, here goes.

I am going 3 screen gaming, I have the screens setup but not running as I only have a 260GTX as I have been waiting on the release the new Radeon cards so I can do it from a single card. Thing is having seen just how insanely demanding it is I would now much rather go with 2x570GTX cards.
Too keep things simpler (airflow and so I don't have to buy a new PCI-E wifi card because both my PCI slots are taken up) I want to use the very top and very bottom (slower) PCI-E slots on my Asus P6X58D-E motherboard. Would this cause sub-par performance considering the bottom slot is only would only be 8X?
Also I was going to buy a XFX 850 Black PSU, That is sufficient yes?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated *cough* I'm a subscriber*cough*
Canon 9th December 2010, 22:57 Quote
So during that short interlude what happened? Did that Intel lawyer beat you all black and blue, strap all of you to your seats with belts, ballgag you, hand you a script and remove your gag for you to do your next line? :)
Combatus 9th December 2010, 23:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Canon
So during that short interlude what happened? Did that Intel lawyer beat you all black and blue, strap all of you to your seats with belts, ballgag you, hand you a script and remove your gag for you to do your next line? :)

Might have been because of the idiot who came into the recording studio even though we put up a sign saying 'go away, we're podcasting'. >:(
j_jay4 9th December 2010, 23:35 Quote
James needs a slap, do you know how annoying it is you can't hear him? It's not like you can turn up the volume unless you like Harry shouting in your ear
Ph4ZeD 9th December 2010, 23:57 Quote
Subtle hint that Sandybridge destroys 1156 and 1366 in performance in the podcast :)
jrs77 10th December 2010, 00:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ph4ZeD
Subtle hint that Sandybridge destroys 1156 and 1366 in performance in the podcast :)

With the preview over at anandtech.com three month ago I don't really know, why there's this overly agressive NDA still in place tbh.
The only thing still unclear is what desktop-parts will ship with one and which will have two GPU-cores.
Material 10th December 2010, 00:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
The only thing still unclear is what desktop-parts will ship with one and which will have two GPU-cores.

:?
Tokukachi 10th December 2010, 00:48 Quote
Can we move James closer to the mike, and harry further away, maybe in the next room perhaps? :P

Good stuff guys, would like to see these more regularly though, like gaming and hardware on alternating weeks, I'd even consider turning ad-block off form bit-tech...
NethLyn 10th December 2010, 02:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Material
Ok, we've amplified the Podcast a little and the new version is now up, if you downloaded it before and it was a little quiet then try again, the new versions should be better.

@ DragunovHUN - we pick the person at random, keep plugging away and I'm sure you'll win some day :D

Whatever you did, excellent, can hear it, much clearer than the last gaming 'cast and could also hear the people further away from the mic.

Bleeping with klaxons was also a good laugh, and best of all, it didn't feel any shorter to listen to despite being 15min shorter, so good editing.
jrs77 10th December 2010, 11:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Material
:?
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Originally Posted by anandtech
There are two different GPU configurations, referred to internally as 1 core or 2 cores. A single GPU core in this case refers to 6 EUs, Intel’s graphics processor equivalent (NVIDIA would call them CUDA cores). Sandy Bridge will be offered in configurations with 6 or 12 EUs.

It's announced, that all of the mobile parts will have 12 EUs (e.g. 2 cores) and most of the desktop parts will have 6 EUs (e.g. 1 core), but there will be desktop parts with 12 EUs aswell, as the tested i5 2400 apparently did have 12 EUs.
Material 10th December 2010, 11:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Neat69
Good stuff guys, would like to see these more regularly though, like gaming and hardware on alternating weeks, I'd even consider turning ad-block off form bit-tech...
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Originally Posted by The Article
We'd also just like to mention that we've overhauled the way in which we produce podcasts recently, so we're better set up to actually record and release one per week, as has always been the aim.



Reading the words we wrote = win
runadumb 10th December 2010, 12:03 Quote
And having now listened too the podcast I realise you aren't going to answer my question are you? Haha. Not with that disdain for multi GPU setups. Oh well, guess I will be getting a 6970 regardless of how it compares to the 580GTX.
Jaffo 10th December 2010, 12:49 Quote
Needs Alex back in there to keep the kiddies under control.
Player-x 10th December 2010, 14:41 Quote
Ok this is one of the worst podcast i ever have listen to.

whit on person whispering wane sounding normal and one screaming.

Do even it was interesting, i just could not tolerate the different sound levels so i tuned out!!
Tokukachi 10th December 2010, 16:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Material
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Originally Posted by Neat69
Good stuff guys, would like to see these more regularly though, like gaming and hardware on alternating weeks, I'd even consider turning ad-block off form bit-tech...
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Article
We'd also just like to mention that we've overhauled the way in which we produce podcasts recently, so we're better set up to actually record and release one per week, as has always been the aim.



Reading the words we wrote = win

Toss, Didn't read the article, just listened to the podcast via RSS feed :)
Canon 10th December 2010, 18:48 Quote
Either some of you listen to it audiophile style or at levels that I could only describe as wall shakingly loud. If there is ever a change in levels that is uncomfortable I just turn it down a notch or too and it is no bother, besides that it's interesting enough (more often than not) to keep me distracted. I've listened to podcasts through my earphones, headsets, laptop speakers and even my main setup, always the same, turn it down a few notches and bob's your uncle!
nemo 10th December 2010, 20:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jaffo
Needs Alex back in there to keep the kiddies under control.

+1
Sifter3000 11th December 2010, 11:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by nemo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffo
Needs Alex back in there to keep the kiddies under control.

+1
Aww thanks guys :D
Burdman27911 11th December 2010, 19:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Material
The levels are a little low, I'm looking into amplifying it further and re-uploading it.

Try adding some compression as well... it'll keep everyone talking at the same volume even though Harry is yelling into the microphone in reality.
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