What to do when hardware goes wrong
Posted on 20th Sep 2012 at 08:01 by Antony Leather with 34 comments
Anyone who's built a PC themselves or owned one for long enough has undoubtedly had moments that made them question their hobby. Random crashes, complete failure, even smoke and flames are usually part of the course as far as being a PC enthusiast goes (thankfully random crashes are rare these days, complete failure even more so and it's been years since we've smelt the sickly-sweet smell of burned silicon.)
When things go wrong, it's certainly something I consider to be a pain in the rear, but having dealt with these problems for as long as I can remember, I'm fairly confident that I'd be able to fix my PC for a lot less than it would cost to buy an entirely new one. I'm also thankful that I'm actually able to do this - we were all noobs once and fixing a PC can be particularly difficult if you don't have a lot of money to throw at it, or simply don't know where to start.
For me, having a little spare kit around is a massively encouraging thing. Should a motherboard, CPU or stick of RAM die, I could be up and running again in an hour, just by troubleshooting the issue by installing different hardware to try to isolate the problem through trial and error. Remove dead hardware, replace with new hardware, done - that kind of trouble-shooting was the first I learned.
While it does mean spending even more money on spare kit (it doesn't have to be cutting-edge, only enough to be able to swap things around to find bits that are flaky), if you're taking on the burden of keeping your PC up and running in a mission-critical situation (this is anything from doing coursework at school or university to keeping a PC used by the whole family operational) it can make life a lot easier.

My second tip is never discount a piece of hardware as being the cause of your issues. If all other possibilities have been eliminated, the answer, however improbable, will be left. For me this lesson was learned the hard way. I'd built my parents a PC and instead of going all-out on performance gear, I held back and spent a good deal on the PSU and case to make sure that power stability or cooling weren't going to cause issues.
A year later, the PC had trouble. A hard disk had been fried and the system was flaky as hell before the motherboard died too. For some reason, probably because it was a very well-known and generally well-made brand, I refused to believe the PSU was the cause of the issue and shoved a spare motherboard into the PC. A short while later I had two dead motherboards.
At this point I realised that I hadn't replaced the PSU, and it was the only item left. Sure enough, on installing a new one, the second motherboard I assumed dead actually came back to life, although the first was still dead as a doornail as was the hard disk, sadly with some unbacked up data on it. With a new PSU installed, the PC was up and running again, and it still going to this day several years later. Even if you have the best hardware, it can still go wrong without warning so never discount anything for being the cause of your problems.
Once you've identified the flaky item, the next step is to pursue a warranty claim. Building a PC is as stress free as ever today thanks to warranties from the likes of Scan that cover issues during the build process, and many companies will even replace motherboards with bent pins at no charge too. The distance selling act also means that in a vast majority of situations, you can return an item without charge within seven days of receipt for a full refund. Items that are DOA (dead on arrival) aren't uncommon either - as much as it might seem like the world is against you when your hardware arrives on a Friday ready for a weekend of building, only for a key component to be dead as a doornail, don't take this out on the retailer.
It's probably not their fault and it won't help your cause, but don't expect to be up and running instantly with a replacement either. It takes time to complete a return - if in doubt, send it back under the distance selling act (in the UK, you're able to send most online purchases back to the retailer for a full refund within 7 days or so) and buy a replacement. It will cost you more till you wait for your refund but that's they way things are, and no amount of screaming will help. Further down the line you'll be left with fewer options but if your hardware is in warranty, either with the etailer or manufacturer, then things should be straightforward.
To make things as easy as possible, it's always a good idea to keep the box for your hardware so you can send it back properly packaged or indeed sell it as 'boxed' and get more cash for your future upgrades. If you own a credit card it's also worth using this if it's of the type that offers an extended warranty on purchased items.
Another option for dealing with both troubleshooting and getting hardware replaced is to try your local PC store. We've heard of all sorts of horror stories from people using chain stores, so we'd suggest trying your local PC shop instead. Explain to them the problem, ask how they'll test it and make sure you confirm prices for everything beforehand, just like you would with a car garage. If you don't have any spare hardware, this is the only way to go the fault-finding method but it's also easier and cheaper than buying a whole PC.
Speaking of whole PCs, we all get a lot of joy out of building our own. However, you shouldn't overlook buying a complete one instead, even if you're an expert. I've reviewed many over the last couple of years that cost just a few pounds more than the individual components bought at retail prices separately, but come with the benefit of Windows being installed for you and the boon of a warranty. These can be as decent as two years on-site, meaning you shouldn't be out of action too long, and all the hassle is taken care of for you.
What tips do you have for dealing with PC troubles? Let us know in the forum.
When things go wrong, it's certainly something I consider to be a pain in the rear, but having dealt with these problems for as long as I can remember, I'm fairly confident that I'd be able to fix my PC for a lot less than it would cost to buy an entirely new one. I'm also thankful that I'm actually able to do this - we were all noobs once and fixing a PC can be particularly difficult if you don't have a lot of money to throw at it, or simply don't know where to start.
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For me, having a little spare kit around is a massively encouraging thing. Should a motherboard, CPU or stick of RAM die, I could be up and running again in an hour, just by troubleshooting the issue by installing different hardware to try to isolate the problem through trial and error. Remove dead hardware, replace with new hardware, done - that kind of trouble-shooting was the first I learned.
While it does mean spending even more money on spare kit (it doesn't have to be cutting-edge, only enough to be able to swap things around to find bits that are flaky), if you're taking on the burden of keeping your PC up and running in a mission-critical situation (this is anything from doing coursework at school or university to keeping a PC used by the whole family operational) it can make life a lot easier.

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My second tip is never discount a piece of hardware as being the cause of your issues. If all other possibilities have been eliminated, the answer, however improbable, will be left. For me this lesson was learned the hard way. I'd built my parents a PC and instead of going all-out on performance gear, I held back and spent a good deal on the PSU and case to make sure that power stability or cooling weren't going to cause issues.
A year later, the PC had trouble. A hard disk had been fried and the system was flaky as hell before the motherboard died too. For some reason, probably because it was a very well-known and generally well-made brand, I refused to believe the PSU was the cause of the issue and shoved a spare motherboard into the PC. A short while later I had two dead motherboards.
At this point I realised that I hadn't replaced the PSU, and it was the only item left. Sure enough, on installing a new one, the second motherboard I assumed dead actually came back to life, although the first was still dead as a doornail as was the hard disk, sadly with some unbacked up data on it. With a new PSU installed, the PC was up and running again, and it still going to this day several years later. Even if you have the best hardware, it can still go wrong without warning so never discount anything for being the cause of your problems.
Once you've identified the flaky item, the next step is to pursue a warranty claim. Building a PC is as stress free as ever today thanks to warranties from the likes of Scan that cover issues during the build process, and many companies will even replace motherboards with bent pins at no charge too. The distance selling act also means that in a vast majority of situations, you can return an item without charge within seven days of receipt for a full refund. Items that are DOA (dead on arrival) aren't uncommon either - as much as it might seem like the world is against you when your hardware arrives on a Friday ready for a weekend of building, only for a key component to be dead as a doornail, don't take this out on the retailer.
Click to enlarge - many etailers will accept returns on motherboards with bent pins
It's probably not their fault and it won't help your cause, but don't expect to be up and running instantly with a replacement either. It takes time to complete a return - if in doubt, send it back under the distance selling act (in the UK, you're able to send most online purchases back to the retailer for a full refund within 7 days or so) and buy a replacement. It will cost you more till you wait for your refund but that's they way things are, and no amount of screaming will help. Further down the line you'll be left with fewer options but if your hardware is in warranty, either with the etailer or manufacturer, then things should be straightforward.
To make things as easy as possible, it's always a good idea to keep the box for your hardware so you can send it back properly packaged or indeed sell it as 'boxed' and get more cash for your future upgrades. If you own a credit card it's also worth using this if it's of the type that offers an extended warranty on purchased items.
Another option for dealing with both troubleshooting and getting hardware replaced is to try your local PC store. We've heard of all sorts of horror stories from people using chain stores, so we'd suggest trying your local PC shop instead. Explain to them the problem, ask how they'll test it and make sure you confirm prices for everything beforehand, just like you would with a car garage. If you don't have any spare hardware, this is the only way to go the fault-finding method but it's also easier and cheaper than buying a whole PC.
Speaking of whole PCs, we all get a lot of joy out of building our own. However, you shouldn't overlook buying a complete one instead, even if you're an expert. I've reviewed many over the last couple of years that cost just a few pounds more than the individual components bought at retail prices separately, but come with the benefit of Windows being installed for you and the boon of a warranty. These can be as decent as two years on-site, meaning you shouldn't be out of action too long, and all the hassle is taken care of for you.
What tips do you have for dealing with PC troubles? Let us know in the forum.







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Discuss in the forums Replyand just when they all waking up its fixed. makes u feel alive during these moments of WTF... nooooooooo (whispers)
However, lest we forget many geeks are young and impatient, with a poor grasp of human interaction and etiquette. When something goes awry patience doesn't even make a fleeting appearance, and the poor old retailer will get an ear bashing, a forum trashing and more besides.
Thankfully I stopped being that person in my early 20s, and nowadays whilst I'm disappointed when something goes wrong I don't throw my toys out of the pram. Honestly the best way to be.
That's what I thought too until recently, but at least one retailer I know of will actually replace motherboards with bent pins in the UK. I think they've had so many people do this (it's incredible easy to do after all) that they've had to come up with some sort of arrangement, which is good I suppose.
Just to rephrase that, I'd still avoid sub £40 PSU's like the plague. We've proven them to be often very more unreliable, noisy, unable to meet the ATX spec in voltage stability as well as their rated wattage, and to have very poor efficiency. TBH this is the only example of a decent PSU I've used on a long term basis fail - I'd still recommend buying a proven PSU that has been tested properly. The point of the article was really to suspect everything and trust nothing when it comes to problems. If I'd used a cheapo PSU in my parent's PC, that would have been my prime suspect for the issues! ;)
My main in to building and upgrading my own PC? PC went bang, smoke, failed power supply. Was obviously the power supply as it did kind of explode and emit smoke. Replacing it made me open the case look round and get my hands dirty, I realised this was not rocket science.
One observation, I have never had a good quality power supply fail in the manner described in the article, furthermore I would suggest that it is equally likely that the power circuitry in the motherboard could cause the failure. Since the board was dead too and the supply was dead, either the supply killed the board or the board killed the supply (difference in my example was only my supply was dead), a bad failure or short on the board can cause a spike that will kill the supply instantly.
That last sentence was horribly written. Sorry, couldn't think of a better way to put it!
I used to work in an independent computer store and it was always our policy to give a rough estimate of the amount of labour involved before accepting a repair; if we thought it would take longer we'd always call the customer first to make sure they're happy to proceed (and indeed once we've found what the problem is and what it'll cost to fix, if replacement hardware was needed). Sadly not everyone has the same scruples and I've caught more than one local store trying to rip off friends and family; being more expensive than online retailers is one thing, but being deceptive and misleading when dealing with customers just isn't cricket.
I'm quite lucky to have a Novatech store in Cardiff. They may not be the best online retailer, or the cheapest, but they have a store about 5 minutes away from me: if I ever get any problems I can go and speak to someone face to face, rather than having to trust that they read my emails. So far I've had no complaints about their service, including returns.
they look for the derivation of the voltage output in some cases even whit good brands the variation might be to high and cause system instability
there are even reviewers who pull it fully apart and test the efficiencies at 40 C to give the real world performance. these kind of sites made me chose the hx850 of corsair.it has 6 years warranty. the reviews also show that some psu of the same line might be very different in quality.
(so 750 watt might be from different quality then the 850watt)
So got a PSU test plug for around the same price and did it my self.
As for scan they can give you the runaround from time to time on returns, but some times are quite good. but after they gave me the runaround of "it's not our problem its the manufacturer you want" and geting the same story from manufacturer "see scan" I will only use them as a last resort now my self.
I would suggest only buying a PC from somewhere that is open about the components. I have change many PSU' s for rail failure on Dell, Evesham, etc. Some are easy but the Dell powered through a separate board. No 24/20 pin plug. Fun failure though 12v going through the 3.3v rail. Never knew the CPU fan could spin that fast. lol
I have, however, gone back to old components to build a friend a basic pc, to find that the psu was dead as was the motherboard. They were working (though the system had been unstable for a time) when stored, and I always take care in how I store them. I reckon I dodged a bullet there as they must have been very close to dieing.
1. check the bloody power supply 1st -ALWAYS
no point looking anywhere else for a fault, as a single dodgy voltage rail will skew the working of something else.
ie a video card that might be a bit off can be replaced, but if the 2nd vid card is more "tolerant" of the dodgy voltage rail, you'll incorrectly assume the fault cured.
My greatest realization over the years has been to think of the computer not as just the hardware components, or even the components and their connections, but as the truly complex beast that it is. Components have several pieces on them, and each of those can fail independently at times, learn what everything does and you can pretty easily sort out what's causing the problem.
Anyway, IMO the most important thing when you're fixing a PC is to find a way to reproduce the issue or you won't know if what you did was effective. I'll give you an example. I once had to fix an almost new PC that suffered from random catastrophic failure (data lost, SO lost, BSOD...). The funny thing is that every time i re-installed the SO it would work like a charm no matter how long or hard i stressed it but, after returning it, it would broke again for no aparent reason. As i couldn't find a way to rerpoduce the problem, I spent 2 whole months looking for it and it happened to be the damned memory. I found that If i were to power up the PC after 2 days of being completely off, the memory would show lots of errors (checked in memtest). It would work fine after a restart, though. It was not until i left it alone for more than 2 days that the error wold come back again... and that was why constant stressing was ineffective as a test. Once i could reproduce the problem it was easy. I should have replaced the memory first of all things but i didn't have a spare kit at the moment T_T
Exactly the same thing happened to me. It even passed a PSU tester on every output. Took weeks before we narrowed it down to the PSU.
I know these things can happen to any manufacturer but by god I swore that would be the last Be Quiet PSU I ever bought.
:'(
I understand completely. I won't go near Gigabyte motherboards no matter how good the reviews are. Only takes 1 issue to put you off.
I had the very same problem with the same PSU - spent 6 weeks problem testing to find out it was the PSU at fault - I yelled at antec directly, directing them to my forum posts about the issue and laying out all the testing I had done.
They responded by sending me a replacement, AND one of their 3d sound systems by way of apology, so thumbs up for their customer service (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Soundscience-rockus-3D-2-1-channel-multimedia/dp/B004NHT0PW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350501375&sr=8-1)
Give this guy an email:
Stefan Geler
Customer Support & Service Coordinator
T +49 40 226 139 22 | Skype antecsupport.eu
Fax +31 10 437 175 2 | E-mail sgeler@antec.com