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Something special is about to drop through your letter box

Posted on 8th Apr 2011 at 15:18 by James Gorbold with 178 comments

James Gorbold
For the last five months the editorial team behind Custom PC, bit-tech and bit-gamer has been busy beavering away into the small hours working on a total redesign of Custom PC.

This weekend you'll be able to see the result of all that hard work.

That's because subscribers will receive the first copies of Issue 93, six days before it goes on sale in newsagents and supermarkets across the UK and USA on 14 April.

Issue 93 is so special because it's the first time in over five years that we've given Custom PC a total overhaul. As soon as you pick up the new issue you'll notice that it's a different size to the 92 issues preceding it. That's because we know that a significant number of readers like to store back issues, so the new compact form factor will make it easier to archive.

This isn't the only change we've made though; we've also added 16 more pages so that you can read about more hardware, overclocking, modding and gaming in every issue. In the modern world of VAT increases and inflation, you'll also be pleased to hear that you can acquire all this extra valuable editorial content without paying a penny more.

Something special is about to drop through your letter box *Something special is about to drop through your letter box

Speaking of content, we've also restructured Custom PC so that you can find related topics more easily. For example, we've created a new gaming section focusing on the best new releases, plus highlights from the gaming community in the shape of the most interesting mods and web games.

We've also created a new modding section, which includes an easy step-by-step guide, and the best in-progress and complete mods by other readers of Custom PC and bit-tech. If you continue to buy Custom PC every month, you'll soon learn all the skills you need to make your own eye-catching modded or scratch-built PC.

Finally, we've taken a long hard look at the Elite section - our shopping guide to the best components that we've reviewed over the last few months. The old cluttered design has been replaced by a sleek new shopping-list-style guide that makes it far easier to decide which components work best together, and which upgrades are the most worthwhile.

Complementing all this brilliant new content is a fresh look for the entire magazine. The intention behind this redesign was to clean up the look and feel of Custom PC - the old design was showing its age and the pages were becoming strewn with clutter.

I'm confident that once you've read through, and experienced this new and longer design of Custom PC, that you'll agree the new look is considerably more pleasing to the eye. It allows you to more easily find the information you need, whether it's an at-a-glance overview of the product under review, or its key tech specs and scores in our benchmarks. I hope you enjoy reading the new issue as much as we enjoyed crafting it for you.

Let me know what you think in the Custom PC forum.

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Guinevere 8th April 2011, 16:27 Quote
Oooo a compact form factor? So it'll fit in my handbag? I think that deserves a big ol' w00t w00t
sWW 8th April 2011, 16:28 Quote
surely if you make each page in the magazine smaller you will need to add pages to maintain the same amount of information in it. unless the text size is being shrunk down too.
penryn 2 hertz 8th April 2011, 16:33 Quote
so if its smaller will it be cheaper???.
NethLyn 8th April 2011, 16:37 Quote
Don't go all AMD on us with this hype :D just happy the mag will be here next Thursday for non-subbers, together with PC Pro 200's CPU test.
Webby63 8th April 2011, 16:46 Quote
Ha Ha I already have PC Pro's mag! The CPU test is brilliant.
tom_hargreaves 8th April 2011, 16:47 Quote
The problem with the paper mag is there to see already - Pretty much all of the front page headlines are already on the website.

It's why I, and a few others on a forum I post on, cancelled their sub.
Fingers66 8th April 2011, 16:48 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by sWW
surely if you make each page in the magazine smaller you will need to add pages to maintain the same amount of information in it. unless the text size is being shrunk down too.

^ this. If the paper was the same size as previous issues, would it still have the "UPGRADED 16 EXTRA PAGES" or less? :D
tyepye 8th April 2011, 16:51 Quote
<excitment>looking forward to it, I wonder if it's sitting at home right now</excitment>
Quote:
Originally Posted by sWW
surely if you make each page in the magazine smaller you will need to add pages to maintain the same amount of information in it. unless the text size is being shrunk down too.

or they just reformat how they have written articles so that there is the same amount of text per page as a previous article. e.g. shrink the pictures
javaman 8th April 2011, 16:57 Quote
still have 3 issues for £1? Might check it out if so! Thanks for listening to everyone btw!
roblikesbeer 8th April 2011, 17:11 Quote
I bet £10 the original title of this article was "Something special is about to come through your letter box" - hmm?
BRAWL 8th April 2011, 17:11 Quote
It doesn't play Crysis does it?

Sorry...

Good stuff dudes :) I may look at getting all subscribed again =]
Unicorn 8th April 2011, 17:53 Quote
I very much look forward to this. As much as I loved the old CPC format and layout, when you think about it, it was getting a little tired so this can only be a good thing. Well done for the extra effort lads (and ladies?) and I will let you know what I think of it once I've read it cover to cover ;)
Tattysnuc 8th April 2011, 17:54 Quote
Great stuff folks.

I look forward to receiving this copy on Monday if the post is as usual, to see if you are really paying attention.....
leveller 8th April 2011, 17:55 Quote
Can't wait to pick it up. And PC Pro by the sound of it.
Taffy 8th April 2011, 19:01 Quote
I made a "special" shelf for these mags and now thats useless !!
l3v1ck 8th April 2011, 19:11 Quote
Quote:
This isn't the only change we've made though; we've also added 16 more pages
Doesn't that just compensate for you being able to fit less on a page now it's smaller?

Can't say I like the idea that much. I liked the size of the mag as it was. Guess I'll have to reserve judgement until I actually try reading it.
Doctor Hades 8th April 2011, 19:15 Quote
The smaller size hopefully means there's less chance of my subbie copy arriving dog-eared/ripped/bent etc. like it has been doing? I'm sure the postman thinks it is just another junk holiday brochure and treats it as such.
jimmyjj 8th April 2011, 19:17 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tom_hargreaves
The problem with the paper mag is there to see already - Pretty much all of the front page headlines are already on the website.

It's why I, and a few others on a forum I post on, cancelled their sub.

As much as I love Bit Tech and Custom PC to bits I have to agree with this comment.
Ending Credits 8th April 2011, 19:18 Quote
  • "Smaller form factor"
  • "16 new pages"

I see what you did there. :D
kzinti1 8th April 2011, 20:08 Quote
Smaller = cheaper. Right? If you'd allow us foreigners to try your magazine before subscribing you'd possibly get more subscriptions. I just can't see myself ordering a consumable, sight unseen, from a foreign country without the opportunity to sample it.
BTW, I'm not trolling. The computer magazines here in the U.S. truly suck. I always appreciate a foreigners outlook on what I'm interested in. I watch BBC news so I can get a different and usually more accurate, unbiased view of U.S. and World news. I was drawn to bit-tech and Mad Shrimps for their different views of computer oriented news. Not to mention the different usages of the English language.
bigkingfun 8th April 2011, 20:20 Quote
If I sign up for a subscription now, will I then recieve issue 93?
PingCrosby 8th April 2011, 20:44 Quote
The intention behind this redesign was to clean up the look and feel of Custom PC - the old design was showing its age and the pages were becoming strewn with clutter........No, strewn with adverts.
Lizard 8th April 2011, 20:54 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzinti1
SIf you'd allow us foreigners to try your magazine before subscribing you'd possibly get more subscriptions. I just can't see myself ordering a consumable, sight unseen, from a foreign country without the opportunity to sample it.

Custom PC is on sale in the US in larger Barnes and Nobles; failing that you can buy digital copies online.
dave99 8th April 2011, 20:55 Quote
I hope for your sake you haven't just tried to pull the wool over the eyes of CP readers by telling us that you've added 16 pages when they are merely a result of the change of format? That would suggest you think your readers are idiots. I am waiting for the latest issue before I pull the trigger on my new build. Don't let me down :)

Love the mag.
tonyd223 8th April 2011, 20:57 Quote
I know how the payment model works, subs, ads, etc... but if those "xtra" 16 pages are mostly ad space I will cancel my subscription. You need to learn to differentiate the information you give people who pay, and those who just visit the website whim you make money from, bit who don't spend their money on your product. Of course you'll not do it because changing the payment-delivery model is beyond your pay grade...

Sad.
dave99 8th April 2011, 20:59 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzinti1
Smaller = cheaper. Right? If you'd allow us foreigners to try your magazine before subscribing you'd possibly get more subscriptions. I just can't see myself ordering a consumable, sight unseen, from a foreign country without the opportunity to sample it.
BTW, I'm not trolling. The computer magazines here in the U.S. truly suck. I always appreciate a foreigners outlook on what I'm interested in. I watch BBC news so I can get a different and usually more accurate, unbiased view of U.S. and World news. I was drawn to bit-tech and Mad Shrimps for their different views of computer oriented news. Not to mention the different usages of the English language.

You can sample it dear boy. Either take a look at the digital edition or just go to http://www.bit-tech.net to get a feel for the reviews etc.. Toodle pip from Blighty. ;)
Unicorn 8th April 2011, 21:48 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ending Credits
  • "Smaller form factor"
  • "16 new pages"

I see what you did there. :D

Ahahahahaha... Well spotted you wily eyed young thing you ;)

:)
vdbswong 8th April 2011, 23:00 Quote
Was there another reason behind the form factor change other than the whole "Collectors and Space" issue?
balatro2005 8th April 2011, 23:23 Quote
hope its as good as you guys have made out. Looking forward to getting it early. ;)
javaman 9th April 2011, 02:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzinti1
I watch BBC news so I can get a different and usually more accurate, unbiased view of U.S. and World news.

That made me laugh. BBC sing whatever tune Labour wants them to! Tho after wiki leakes its no where near as bad as American news agencies.
sonicgroove 9th April 2011, 02:12 Quote
Just surprised i didn't get it 2 months ago, seeing as all my mags seem to be delivered in the wrong order!! I got may's in feb and april's in march! way to go cpc!! I thought i was having a major deja vu attack
Teh Noob Slayer 9th April 2011, 03:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
I made a "special" shelf for these mags and now thats useless !!

Im sure the special shelf will still work.
adidan 9th April 2011, 08:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ending Credits
  • "Smaller form factor"
  • "16 new pages"

I see what you did there. :D
I think we all saw what they did there. ;)

We have to remember the other point though that is just as important
Quote:

In the modern world of VAT increases and inflation, you'll also be pleased to hear that you can acquire all this extra valuable editorial content without paying a penny more

Seems like a fair trade off to me. ;)
slaw 9th April 2011, 10:38 Quote
My post has come and no magazine for me :(
adidan 9th April 2011, 11:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by slaw
My post has come and no magazine for me :(
Same here, no sub magazine 6 days before the shops for me. :(
Flip 9th April 2011, 12:15 Quote
Hmmm guess what I got this morning from Dennis publishing...

"Due to increased production and distribution costs we have been forced to increase your subscription price"

Nice timing I must say.

This could be the last nail as I personally see it.
Sim0n 9th April 2011, 12:52 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by slaw
My post has come and no magazine for me :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidan
Same here, no sub magazine 6 days before the shops for me. :(

Same here, no magazine goodness.

So its later than you stated, and also the subscriptions going up ? Nice.
Kroy 9th April 2011, 13:08 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sim0n
Same here, no magazine goodness.

So its later than you stated, and also the subscriptions going up ? Nice.

Hmmm. Wife pays for my sub (a never ending christmas present!) Will check with her if she got an email. Bad patter to say it'll not cost a penny more and then get an email to say price is going up. But I know for sure I never got my edition through the post this morning.

Time to re-evaluate whether mag sub is worth it I guess. And here am I looking to start shopping for my new build...
GravitySmacked 9th April 2011, 13:29 Quote
I look forward to my copy landing although I'm unsure about the smaller size tbh.
GeorgeStorm 9th April 2011, 13:34 Quote
So how much is it now?
I canceled a while back because it was a cost I couldn't afford, wouldn't mind someone taking a pic of the new smaller size once they receive their mag either.
Lizard 9th April 2011, 14:07 Quote
Just to clarrify:

The price of the mag in shops is not going up, i.e. it is still going to be £4.50.

However, the price of subscription renewals is going up this month, but you'll still only be paying £3.33 per issue, a saving of £1.17; plus of course the usual subscriber benefits - getting it early, the exclusive subs cover and the subs gift.
Flip 9th April 2011, 14:43 Quote
Subs gift?
I have been a subscriber since 2005 and have never got a gift.
What gift have you received?

I also am not keen on the resize as it will not match the rest of my copies.
guvnar 9th April 2011, 14:59 Quote
Gift, say you?

Mmmmm not in my time!
adidan 9th April 2011, 15:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
Just to clarrify:

The price of the mag in shops is not going up, i.e. it is still going to be £4.50.

However, the price of subscription renewals is going up this month,
Hang on a minute.

Shop price is not going up but subs price is? WTF? Why are we being penalised for subbing?
GeorgeStorm 9th April 2011, 15:06 Quote
I'm confused how can the subs price be going up if they are still paying £3.33 per issue?
Lizard 9th April 2011, 15:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidan
Shop price is not going up but subs price is? WTF? Why are we being penalised for subbing?

It's because the subs price hasn't gone up in over three years, whereas the shop price has gone up in that time.

That means that for the last few years subs have been subsidised by Dennis, something that the company can no longer afford to do thanks to rising production costs (paper, delivery and general inflation).

Re: people asking about the subs gift - it's common practice in publishing to give new subscibers a gift (its an incentive). Depending on when you subscribe, your gift will vary. For example, over the years it's been a CPC mug, a toolkit, a fan, a case badge.
Lizard 9th April 2011, 15:17 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeStorm
I'm confused how can the subs price be going up if they are still paying £3.33 per issue?

Because until recently each issue of years sub cost approx £2.50. As I'm going out to enjoy the sun, if you're still confused, the subs price rise only occurs when you renew/take out a new sub, not if you've still got several months to go on your sub.
sp4nky 9th April 2011, 15:26 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claave
For the last five months the editorial team behind Custom PC, bit-tech and bit-gamer has been busy beavering away into the small hours working on a total redesign of Custom PC.

This weekend you'll be able to see the result of all that hard work.

http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2011/04/08/custom-pc-v2-0/

;)

Gosh darn it. I thought you meant the first issue of my new sub to What HiFi was coming this weekend.

:(
NethLyn 9th April 2011, 17:06 Quote
I got What Hi Fi yesterday being the last issue in that sub, Haymarket are normally reliable, but 9/10 times it's down to when Royal Mail decides to deliver them after having the bulk dropped off to them. See if it turns up on Monday.
NethLyn 9th April 2011, 17:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
Re: people asking about the subs gift - it's common practice in publishing to give new subscibers a gift (its an incentive). Depending on when you subscribe, your gift will vary. For example, over the years it's been a CPC mug, a toolkit, a fan, a case badge.

When you're back from the great weather James, let me know whether that means you don't do concurrent subs with different reference numbers like What Hi Fi, eg if I wanted the case fan when the toolkit's advertised on the website, can I telephone Dennis and give the reference off the flyer for the case fan (or the Muc-off cleaner), or are they all whilst stocks last and you stick to the one on offer?
Xtrafresh 9th April 2011, 17:17 Quote
so the bit-tech front page gets cluttered with advertisement for the magazine's new uncluttered look? Way to go fellas! :)
Lizard 9th April 2011, 19:14 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by NethLyn
When you're back from the great weather James, let me know whether that means you don't do concurrent subs with different reference numbers like What Hi Fi, eg if I wanted the case fan when the toolkit's advertised on the website, can I telephone Dennis and give the reference off the flyer for the case fan (or the Muc-off cleaner), or are they all whilst stocks last and you stick to the one on offer?

As far as I know (I don't work in the subs department and its a weekend so I can't check), there is only one subs gift at a time (i.e. until stock runs out). However, rather annoyingly the subs website hasn't been updated in a few days, so while the latest gift is a Noctua fan, the website still says the toolkit.
Teknokid 9th April 2011, 19:25 Quote
my copy didn't come today :(

I think it kind of sucks that the price is going up yet there's actually less content in there that's fresh - most of it is now on bit-tech :(
bigkingfun 9th April 2011, 20:16 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigkingfun
If I sign up for a subscription now, will I then recieve issue 93?

Bump
Lizard 9th April 2011, 20:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigkingfun
Bump

Unfortunately I don't think so, as the subs copies will have already been mailed out. However, Issue 93 will be in the shops from next Thursday.
sp4nky 9th April 2011, 20:39 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teknokid
my copy didn't come today :(

I think it kind of sucks that the price is going up yet there's actually less content in there that's fresh - most of it is now on bit-tech :(

You have to acknowledge that the price of things can't always stay the same. Sometimes even the magazines you subscribe to have to increase their prices.

Bizarrely the subscription price will still be cheaper than the cover price was seven years ago. The first non-sub copy I could lay my hands on - Issue 004, Jan 2004 - was £3.50.

Since prices generally (RPI) have gone up 26% since Jan 2004, I think the subscribers price is pretty good value, all things considered.
adidan 9th April 2011, 21:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
It's because the subs price hasn't gone up in over three years, whereas the shop price has gone up in that time.

That means that for the last few years subs have been subsidised by Dennis, something that the company can no longer afford to do thanks to rising production costs (paper, delivery and general inflation).
Well, you may have cleared that up but I retain my right to random outbursts while not fully aware of all of the facts. ;)
dave99 9th April 2011, 22:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzinti1
Smaller = cheaper. Right? If you'd allow us foreigners to try your magazine before subscribing you'd possibly get more subscriptions. I just can't see myself ordering a consumable, sight unseen, from a foreign country without the opportunity to sample it.
BTW, I'm not trolling. The computer magazines here in the U.S. truly suck. I always appreciate a foreigners outlook on what I'm interested in. I watch BBC news so I can get a different and usually more accurate, unbiased view of U.S. and World news. I was drawn to bit-tech and Mad Shrimps for their different views of computer oriented news. Not to mention the different usages of the English language.


The BBC? Seriously? ROFL. They are so biased it's a joke. They even admitted it. Really, if you want unbiased information the BBC is NOT the place to go, it is nothing but a propaganda channel for the left now. They don't do journalism.

Thanks for the chuckle though.
bigkingfun 10th April 2011, 23:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
However, Issue 93 will be in the shops from next Thursday.

Not in Denmark :'(
Thanh55 10th April 2011, 23:41 Quote
I really can't wait to tomorrow morning, hope Mr postman turn up early before I leave for work. For over those year I'm sure CPC staffs done a wonderful job, thank you. I love your mag. :D
dibengineering 11th April 2011, 00:13 Quote
Mmm as mention by others will have to wait and see but Hope you have added stuff and not just making up for saving paper !!. or is this a Eco thing we didn't know about ?
chrismarkham1982 11th April 2011, 10:49 Quote
love the new mag,gpu test was excellent and all the graphs for different games and such was good allowing people to actually think 'this is i want' and being able to cross reference to get the best answer, my big problem was the buyers guide 1.the budget pc now costs over 600 quid! 2. why recommend the 550ti when for the same price or 10quid more you can get a 460 gtx which leads to point 3. 85 pound for the psu? i have no doubt that its a good psu but for a budget pc surely the better choice would be a 500-550w psu which there are quite a few good ones in the 50quid range, other than that the new look is great.
adidan 11th April 2011, 10:56 Quote
It would be nice if my sub had actually turned up at the weekend. Actually, it'll be nice if it bloody turns up today.
Lizard 11th April 2011, 11:01 Quote
Glad to hear you like the redesign issue Chris. I'll let the reviews guys answer your question about the graphics card recommendations, but regarding the PSU in the budget PC in the Elite' unfortunately our old budget PSU (the Corsair CX400) has been discontinued and we haven't been able to test any PSUs this year.

However, I am planning a trip to Germany later this year, so we test some more PSUs.

P.S. the price of all the PCs in the Elite have all gone up as we've finally made the PCs complete by including all the components/software necessary (if you look at the old list they were missing a few bits such as optical drives and OS).
chrismarkham1982 11th April 2011, 12:49 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
Glad to hear you like the redesign issue Chris. I'll let the reviews guys answer your question about the graphics card recommendations, but regarding the PSU in the budget PC in the Elite' unfortunately our old budget PSU (the Corsair CX400) has been discontinued and we haven't been able to test any PSUs this year.

However, I am planning a trip to Germany later this year, so we test some more PSUs.

P.S. the price of all the PCs in the Elite have all gone up as we've finally made the PCs complete by including all the components/software necessary (if you look at the old list they were missing a few bits such as optical drives and OS).

that explains it then and cheers for answer regarding the psu's, very understandable
keep up the good work guys

edit: lol just flicked through the buyers guide again and yeah can see y theyve gone up now lol, teach me for not reading it properly
KidMod-Southpaw 11th April 2011, 12:51 Quote
Mine came this morning, I'm very impressed and the size is great. The ;layout is clean and organized and it gives the mag a great feel.
Well done guys.
chrismarkham1982 11th April 2011, 12:57 Quote
defo, looks more upto date and feels like there is much much more to the mag despite its size
WilHarris 11th April 2011, 13:32 Quote
It's still not called 'Bit-Tech Magazine' #fail
chrismarkham1982 11th April 2011, 13:40 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilHarris
It's still not called 'Bit-Tech Magazine' #fail

why is that fail? what about people who dont subscribe or visit the website and dont buy the magazine every issue who suddenly cant find their fav mag and didnt get the last issue explaining the changes? in my book thats money lost
chelseascum 11th April 2011, 15:57 Quote
"In the modern world of VAT increases and inflation, you'll also be pleased to hear that you can acquire all this extra valuable editorial content without paying a penny more."

So why did I get a letter just the other day saying my subscription is going up? Do you mean "without paying a penny more than the new, higher price"?
postmangav 11th April 2011, 15:58 Quote
Got mine today but haven't read it yet. Flicking through quickly, the new look is very nice and definitely a breath of fresh air.
23RO_UK 11th April 2011, 16:21 Quote
It dropped through the door this morning...

Very much impressed, the new size is spot on and the new chapter like format is certainly an improvement ;)

Keep up the great work guys!
yogev_ezra 11th April 2011, 16:25 Quote
I would donate a kidney... err a piece of hardware or anything similar to anyone who would ship me a copy (or ten copies :D ) of latest CustomPC issue 93 PM me if interested and let me know what do you want for it The shipment is to Israel.
chrismarkham1982 11th April 2011, 16:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by chelseascum
"In the modern world of VAT increases and inflation, you'll also be pleased to hear that you can acquire all this extra valuable editorial content without paying a penny more."

So why did I get a letter just the other day saying my subscription is going up? Do you mean "without paying a penny more than the new, higher price"?

i dont know about other people but i got my letter about the price going up for subs before this thread came up, apart from that i believe they are most likely talking about the price of the mag it self not sub price which is still less than the mag even after the sub price hike
scott_chegg 11th April 2011, 17:12 Quote
Just arrived home to find mine waiting for me. Looking good.
T2I3M 11th April 2011, 17:46 Quote
I havent started reading it yet but im liking the new face lift. After my flick through
sp4nky 11th April 2011, 17:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by yogev_ezra
I would donate a kidney... err a piece of hardware or anything similar to anyone who would ship me a copy (or ten copies :D ) of latest CustomPC issue 93 PM me if interested and let me know what do you want for it The shipment is to Israel.

If you PM me your address, I'll send you my subscriber copy when I finish reading it, so probably Thursday or Friday this week.
Greentrident 11th April 2011, 17:55 Quote
Thumbs up from me on the new size and format.
javaman 11th April 2011, 18:01 Quote
Mag arrived today even tho I thought my subscription was up last month
decebal_12000 11th April 2011, 18:35 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidan
Same here, no sub magazine 6 days before the shops for me. :(

Bribe the postman to bring it to you!!!

Very funny new format of the magazine!! I expected more pages but not smaller format. Anyway looks much better and like others said can be more portable and handy!!!
leexgx 11th April 2011, 18:37 Quote
the digital version still needs its price fixing (zeno? is not including VAT until you go and pay for it) cost more then hard copy sub, it needs 40% knocking off the price (like other mags have) to make me even consider it or make it free like other mags do when you have an sub

last time I checked its Apple device only and pc
holzj17 11th April 2011, 18:41 Quote
cant wait to have a look at the new mag as sounds good from what everyone is saying... would help if i had actually received it :'(

postman obviously cant be ****ed to walk down my street to post it!!! :(
GravitySmacked 11th April 2011, 19:15 Quote
Initial impressions, I like the new layout, features and reviews but I have to say I really don't like the smaller size.
Chris_Waddle 11th April 2011, 19:41 Quote
Well I've been a subscriber since issue 3 and have enjoyed it. Whilst I feel that the content is still of interest to me, I cannot stand the new size of it.

I was unaware that there was going to be a size change and dropped in here to see what others thought of it.

Whilst I know it's know it isn't a massive change in actual size, it now feels like I can keep it in my wallet. Sorry CPC, but I will be canceling my subscription tomorrow.
Sim0n 11th April 2011, 19:44 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
Just to clarrify:

The price of the mag in shops is not going up, i.e. it is still going to be £4.50.

However, the price of subscription renewals is going up this month, but you'll still only be paying £3.33 per issue, a saving of £1.17; plus of course the usual subscriber benefits - getting it early, the exclusive subs cover and the subs gift.

Subs Gift ? I dont think i was offered. nor told about a sub's gift !??

Also, i have STILL not received my magazine, this is despite i KNOW that Dennis has just renewed my subscription last month. WTF is going on here, I'll be able to walk down to Tesco at this rate and pick it up.
battles_atlas 11th April 2011, 19:48 Quote
Its pretty rich to try and sell a cost-cutting reduction in size as some exciting new design with extra content. In fact I'd go further and say its taking the piss. The redesign inside is fine, its the assumption that we're all idiots that will fall for the snake oil that irritates me. The CPC readership buy the magazine to avoid Nvidia and co pulling this kind of crap on us. Sad that you're trying it out as well. There aren't 16 extra pages of content, any more than there are 146 pages of less content. Next time you take Intel to task for confusing branding practices it will sound a little hollow...
Lizard 11th April 2011, 20:22 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by battles_atlas
Its pretty rich to try and sell a cost-cutting reduction in size as some exciting new design with extra content. In fact I'd go further and say its taking the piss.

You are of course entitled to your opinion, but the format change wasn't driven by cost cutting. In fact, it ended up the size it is precisely because printing 146 pages at the new size costs the same as printing 132 pages at the old size. Oh, and we increased the paper quality too - it's now whiter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by battles_atlas
There aren't 16 extra pages of content, any more than there are 146 pages of less content.

I'd suggest re-reading the mag then, as you've clearly missed the following additional content that's been introduced with the re-design:

1. Enlarged Elite list buyers-guide
2. More games reviews and previews
3. More columns
4. Modding guide
GravitySmacked 11th April 2011, 20:40 Quote
After further reading I give the redesign a big thumbs up, size aside I love the new layout; easier to read and eye catching.

There does seem to be a lot more content (let's hope this continues) and not only that the content is better; dremel review, more enthusiast kit, modding stuff. Oh and the buyers guide is far superior to previous!

It gives the mag a new lease of life and should, hopefully, entice more readers; well done to all involved.
decebal_12000 11th April 2011, 20:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
You are of course entitled to your opinion, but the format change wasn't driven by cost cutting. In fact, it ended up the size it is precisely because printing 146 pages at the new size costs the same as printing 132 pages at the old size. Oh, and we increased the paper quality too - it's now whiter.



I'd suggest re-reading the mag then, as you've clearly missed the following additional content that's been introduced with the re-design:

1. Enlarged Elite list buyers-guide
2. More games reviews and previews
3. More columns
4. Modding guide

I just had time to go through the magazine and it is FANTASTIC the new format!!! I like the quality and the printing of the magazine!!! It is much easier to read and to find the thing what you are interested in!!!!
Cleggmeister 11th April 2011, 21:12 Quote
Does the newsstand size change too? My sub went a few months ago though I still buy it from Tesco or download the pixelmags issues occasionally...
tyepye 11th April 2011, 21:15 Quote
Really think the new format is great. To be honest, even if there were less pages it would still be full to the brim of great stuff that it wouldn't matter.

The redesign is great too. Everything a bit cleaner, and crisper. The improved game section is a good, and I like the sections of must play games you've put in. As well as the free games section, will there be new free games added every month?

So well done on a redesign well done. Look forward to reading more.
Lizard 11th April 2011, 21:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleggmeister
Does the newsstand size change too?

Yes, all copies are in the new format, so when it appears on Thursday in your local Tesco you can see the goodness for yourself ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyepye
As well as the free games section, will there be new free games added every month?

Yes, we'll be on the look-out and recommending the best free games we find every month.
adidan 11th April 2011, 22:08 Quote
Yay, it's here. :)

Like the new sizing, will have to give it a more thorough going through. Inital impressions, generally positive although it could do with a bit of tweaking.

Are any of you regretting the new style staff photos? I mean we can see your gaming stomachs now. :)
Ph4ZeD 11th April 2011, 22:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by battles_atlas
Its pretty rich to try and sell a cost-cutting reduction in size as some exciting new design with extra content. In fact I'd go further and say its taking the piss. The redesign inside is fine, its the assumption that we're all idiots that will fall for the snake oil that irritates me. The CPC readership buy the magazine to avoid Nvidia and co pulling this kind of crap on us. Sad that you're trying it out as well. There aren't 16 extra pages of content, any more than there are 146 pages of less content. Next time you take Intel to task for confusing branding practices it will sound a little hollow...

Raaaggeeeee

Haters gonna hate
Kroy 11th April 2011, 22:28 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph4ZeD
Haters gonna hate

Posties gonna post.

or not,

as is my case. Still waiting. Cmon, I live in Scotland, it's quite a few degrees south of the north pole. Just because I happen to be further away from the SCAN depot than most by choice shouldn't mean that I'm waiting this long.....? Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
KidMod-Southpaw 11th April 2011, 22:39 Quote
I have to admit, I'm very pleased with the folding and new updated modding section. Having a guide is great! But I thought you said there would be more mods in a single issue now, there was still only readers drives and MOTM.
Still, I'm very pleased!
Shangri-La 11th April 2011, 23:14 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
2. More games reviews and previews

I like the new format and the above is the only problem I have with it, especially the previews. The reason the mag attracts me is because of what you do best, hardware reviews. I feel slightly resentful that space is given to this when there are Sandy Bridge processors you have yet to review, hopefully the next issue will stuffed full of SBridge motherboard reviews.
RichCreedy 11th April 2011, 23:17 Quote
someone boilwashed it, its shrunk ---- not a criticism, just a jk.

mine comes on a monday as well if i'm lucky, and the postie can be arsed to deliver it
Material 11th April 2011, 23:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidan
Are any of you regretting the new style staff photos? I mean we can see your gaming stomachs now. :)

Hey, we don't all have them...
Material 11th April 2011, 23:45 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shangri-La
Hopefully the next issue will stuffed full of SBridge motherboard reviews.

:-) winner
j_jay4 11th April 2011, 23:57 Quote
I'm gonna refrain from giving CPC an ear bashing until I've read it but on first impressions it seems that review lengths have dramatically shrunk, especially since the font size has gone up. Must be easier writing reviews when you don't have to write as many words.
Lizard 12th April 2011, 00:17 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by j_jay4
on first impressions it seems that review lengths have dramatically shrunk

Actually, every review is now longer. For example, an old CPC full page review was on average 700 words and most reviews were 1-2 pages long, i.e 1,400 words . The new style only fits on 500 words but all the old 1 page reviews have been expanded to 2 pages (i.e. 300 more words) and the old 2 page reviews to 3 pages (i.e. 100 more words). We've also dropped the old 1/2 page and 1/3 reviews for more indepth and longer reviews.
Quote:
Originally Posted by j_jay4
especially since the font size has gone up.

Sorry to pick on your post, but the font has actually been decreased by 1/4 of a point ;)

Anyway, after another read through I hope you enjoy the changes.
MrGumby 12th April 2011, 00:22 Quote
Like the fresh look. Also the size is more comfortable to hold. ;)
j_jay4 12th April 2011, 00:31 Quote
I swear it looks like there's more line spacing, maybe it's the whiter paper
adidan 12th April 2011, 09:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
Sorry to pick on your post, but the font has actually been decreased by 1/4 of a point ;)
That reminds me of my weird typography lecturer at college yeeaars ago. He said some fonts almost gave him a 'typographical orgasm'.

Thankfully he said that to a room full of students rather than me, alone, in a dark alley.
Lizard 12th April 2011, 09:41 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidan
That reminds me of my weird typography lecturer at college yeeaars ago. He said some fonts almost gave him a 'typographical orgasm'.



You poor man
runadumb 12th April 2011, 09:50 Quote
Got mine yesterday. I like the new design.
The feature on old gaming tech looks like a good read. Hope it says VR was just shown too early. I think it needs another chance :)
saspro 12th April 2011, 10:04 Quote
Has the designer from PCFORMAT been employed at CPC?
I had to look twice to be sure I was reading the right magazine.
bw67958 12th April 2011, 10:52 Quote
Well you get a big thumbs up from me, you are certainly heading back in the right direction. Again a little too much emphasis on gaming and not enough on modding/ overclocking/ doing something stupid with h/w.

Loved the 990 review and the fact you brought the chiller out again, surely its time for a CPC world record overclock attempt!

The new mag size I think is fine, in fact once i started reading I didn't really notice
j_jay4 12th April 2011, 10:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by saspro
Has the designer from PCFORMAT been employed at CPC?
I had to look twice to be sure I was reading the right magazine.

Exactly what I thought, you better get used to a 1 page review being half image and half text
Tattysnuc 12th April 2011, 12:08 Quote
Received my copy yesterday.

The size is much smaller than I thought, but it actually is easier to hold, especially when travelling, so a big thumbs up there.

Font size is good - seems nice and clear, despite being smaller.

I love the new buyers guide layout. Much simpler to read. [Niggle] The 1st column with the heading in takes up a bit too much of the page space for my liking, especially on the right hand page, but it's now so much easier to find. [Niggle]

I'd like to see a watercooling recommendation as there is a lot of movement and innovation in that area, especially coming out of Koolance and Swiftech. It's hard to believe that there has been no better waterblock since the Apogee XT, and it seems a shame not to have the results of your fan tests accessible. Simply putting "use your favourite water cooling bits" or something to that effect seemed a bit of a cop out to me.

I thought that it gives a nice balance of pictures to words - I've yet to read the mag fully as I'm saving that for the next time I travel (the new size will surely fit better in my hand luggage, hoorah!)

My first thought having flick read it was that nothing too much seems to have changed. Certainly more evolutionary than revolutionary.
battles_atlas 12th April 2011, 12:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph4ZeD
Raaaggeeeee

Haters gonna hate

Congratulations on abandoning your critical faculties.

As I said before, I like the redesign, and actually the smaller size does fit better in the hand, so its not all bad, but I don't like sales hype from a mag that I buy precisely so I can get past such hype. And using the time-honoured CPC commitment to empiricism, I conclude from my testing that the '16 pages of extra content' is indeed b*llocks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
I'd suggest re-reading the mag then, as you've clearly missed the following additional content that's been introduced with the re-design:

1. Enlarged Elite list buyers-guide
2. More games reviews and previews
3. More columns
4. Modding guide
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
an old CPC full page review was on average 700 words and most reviews were 1-2 pages long, i.e 1,400 words . The new style only fits on 500 words

So you've added 12% more pages, but each page holds nearly 30% less text, according to your figures. If so, I'm confused as to how you're fitting all this extra content in. I'm not trying to be controversial, and as I said I'm fairly positive about the changes, I just think the way you're spinning it is hypocritical for a mag that (rightly) takes intel and nvidia to task for dishonest branding. If you were reviewing this product update I doubt this creative accounting would get the CPC seal of approval.

If you said "16 pages of extra content! 30% less content per page!", I'd be cool with that.
crazy95 12th April 2011, 12:46 Quote
i got mine yesterday and its nice
but i dont like the new pc rig type pages 18 - 27
sonicgroove 12th April 2011, 13:10 Quote
I usually read mine while pinching a loaf, and the new form factor sits on my knees perfectly :)

I would still like to see more custom pc's though, rather than de facto hardware and mainstream gaming articles. it's all a bit PC Format to be honest. nothing wrong with pc format btw, but why not strive to be different?

Looking at this forum for example, i'm pretty sure more than 5% of people on here mod their gear, but less than 5% of the mag has any features on it, usually shoved at the back. What did we get this month? a blow hole and a featured case!!

Come on guys, just one quick look in the mod forum reveals that a lot more interesting things are going on in the modding world than a bleedin blow hole. how about perspex shaping for beginners or painting cases with an airbrush. sure it'll use up more than the couple of pages you currently dedicate to it, but do we really need to know about the latest greatest from EA when the net is already saturated with them?
Comrade Woody 12th April 2011, 14:21 Quote
"It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week."

George Orwell ~ Nineteen Eighty-four



I was going to post a thread on the redesign of custom PC but then realised there was already a discussion on it here...

As a subscriber of the magazine I received the June 2011 (Issue 93) in the post yesterday, slightly earlier than it hits the shops, and I was immediately struck by its diminutive size.

I had of course seen the advert in the previous issue which made a point of informing us that the redesign would include an extra sixteen pages (taking the total from 130 to 146) implying it was being made bigger, but the magazine that arrived through the door was noticeably smaller than usual, due to its new form factor.

The first article I read was James Gorbold's from the editor piece on the new format. In the text there is again mention of the extra pages, “we've also added 16 more pages so that you can read about more hardware, overclocking, modding and gaming in every issue” and the implication that the magazine is now larger has become a definite statement, with it being referred to as “this new and enlarged edition”.

James goes on to talk about what great value it represents with “you'll also be pleased to hear that you can acquire all this extra valuable editorial content without paying a penny more”.

So that's the official spiel then, now here are some facts:

The old format of the magazine was as follows.

130 pages measuring 23 x 30 cm.
Total area per page: 690 cm2
Total area per magazine: 89700 cm2


And here's the new format:

146 pages measuring 20.3 x 27.6 cm.
Total area per page: 560.28 cm2
Total area per magazine: 81800.88 cm2



That's a reduction in the overall size of the magazine of roughly 8.8% and a reduction in individual page size of 18.8%. That means that those “glorious full-bleed images” are almost one fifth smaller in the new “enlarged” format.

I'm not sold on the “fresh look …. to clean up the look and feel of custom PC” either. James says that ”the old design was showing its age and the pages were becoming strewn with an ever-increasing number of elements” but in my opinion the reduced space of the new format has led to a more cluttered, cramped look. The old layout was more spacious and far preferable to me as a reader.

While opinion on the new layout is subjective, the issue of the size is not. It has been openly stated that the magazine is larger when it quite clearly isn't. We have been told that we are lucky not to have to pay more for it, when in fact we are now getting less for our money. While the fonts look the same to me an earlier post on this thread claims it has in fact been reduced by ¼ point. Regardless of whether this is the case or not there is still no way that the new format can contain as much content as the old, let alone more as they would have us believe.

The readers have been blatantly lied to and treated like idiots, which I find disgusting. I understand that the internet has had a severe detrimental impact on printed media and I suspect that the new format is an attempt to lower costs and make the magazine more profitable; if that is the case then surely the readers deserve to be treated with some respect and told so, not told they're getting more when they are, in fact, getting less.

I'm seriously considering cancelling my subscription because of this; I hate product shrinkage and I can't abide being lied to. I've not had anything yet telling me the subscription cost is increasing as a few people on here have mentioned, but if that's the case then I'm definitely cancelling it.

I'll be writing to James directly to make my grievance known. I sincerely hope that other people will see how they're being short changed too and post similar complaints: possibly then people at CPC will learn to value their readership a little more and treat them with some respect and honesty.
Lizard 12th April 2011, 15:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Woody
now here are some facts:

Your maths is correct, but fails to take into account one significant factor. We've added 16 pages, all of which are editorial. i.e. none of them are adverts. This means that proportionately you're getting more editorial per issue with the re-design.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Woody
I'm not sold on the “fresh look …. to clean up the look and feel of custom PC” either. James says that ”the old design was showing its age and the pages were becoming strewn with an ever-increasing number of elements” but in my opinion the reduced space of the new format has led to a more cluttered, cramped look. The old layout was more spacious and far preferable to me as a reader.

That's a matter of personal taste, so it would be pointless for me to try to change your opinion. However, the overall trend in this thread has been positive about the new layout.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Woody
I suspect that the new format is an attempt to lower costs and make the magazine more profitable; if that is the case then surely the readers deserve to be treated with some respect and told so, not told they're getting more when they are, in fact, getting less.

Please see my earlier comments on this.
Kroy 12th April 2011, 15:22 Quote
Still waiting for this "something special" to drop through my letter box. Perhaps the allure of the new form factor is so high that the posty has snaffled it for himself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shangri-La
hopefully the next issue will stuffed full of SBridge motherboard reviews.

Are there enough out on the marketplace atm to stuff anything? Looks kinda empty in some of the UK's more popular online emporiums (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=1906; http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/motherboards-intel/socket-1155-intel-p67; etc)
chrismarkham1982 12th April 2011, 15:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Woody
"It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week."

George Orwell ~ Nineteen Eighty-four



I was going to post a thread on the redesign of custom PC but then realised there was already a discussion on it here...

As a subscriber of the magazine I received the June 2011 (Issue 93) in the post yesterday, slightly earlier than it hits the shops, and I was immediately struck by its diminutive size.

I had of course seen the advert in the previous issue which made a point of informing us that the redesign would include an extra sixteen pages (taking the total from 130 to 146) implying it was being made bigger, but the magazine that arrived through the door was noticeably smaller than usual, due to its new form factor.

The first article I read was James Gorbold's from the editor piece on the new format. In the text there is again mention of the extra pages, “we've also added 16 more pages so that you can read about more hardware, overclocking, modding and gaming in every issue” and the implication that the magazine is now larger has become a definite statement, with it being referred to as “this new and enlarged edition”.

James goes on to talk about what great value it represents with “you'll also be pleased to hear that you can acquire all this extra valuable editorial content without paying a penny more”.

So that's the official spiel then, now here are some facts:

The old format of the magazine was as follows.

130 pages measuring 23 x 30 cm.
Total area per page: 690 cm2
Total area per magazine: 89700 cm2


And here's the new format:

146 pages measuring 20.3 x 27.6 cm.
Total area per page: 560.28 cm2
Total area per magazine: 81800.88 cm2



That's a reduction in the overall size of the magazine of roughly 8.8% and a reduction in individual page size of 18.8%. That means that those “glorious full-bleed images” are almost one fifth smaller in the new “enlarged” format.

I'm not sold on the “fresh look …. to clean up the look and feel of custom PC” either. James says that ”the old design was showing its age and the pages were becoming strewn with an ever-increasing number of elements” but in my opinion the reduced space of the new format has led to a more cluttered, cramped look. The old layout was more spacious and far preferable to me as a reader.

While opinion on the new layout is subjective, the issue of the size is not. It has been openly stated that the magazine is larger when it quite clearly isn't. We have been told that we are lucky not to have to pay more for it, when in fact we are now getting less for our money. While the fonts look the same to me an earlier post on this thread claims it has in fact been reduced by ¼ point. Regardless of whether this is the case or not there is still no way that the new format can contain as much content as the old, let alone more as they would have us believe.

The readers have been blatantly lied to and treated like idiots, which I find disgusting. I understand that the internet has had a severe detrimental impact on printed media and I suspect that the new format is an attempt to lower costs and make the magazine more profitable; if that is the case then surely the readers deserve to be treated with some respect and told so, not told they're getting more when they are, in fact, getting less.

I'm seriously considering cancelling my subscription because of this; I hate product shrinkage and I can't abide being lied to. I've not had anything yet telling me the subscription cost is increasing as a few people on here have mentioned, but if that's the case then I'm definitely cancelling it.

I'll be writing to James directly to make my grievance known. I sincerely hope that other people will see how they're being short changed too and post similar complaints: possibly then people at CPC will learn to value their readership a little more and treat them with some respect and honesty.


wow just wow...all this for a magazine? dude i think you need to lighten up a bit its not exactly life changing is it, if you dont like it then so be it but does it need an almost esay sized post regarding your dislike
javaman 12th April 2011, 15:36 Quote
Loved the new mag ;) Still worry about the problem with reviews being up on the site but the modding section is great. Glad to see it make a return (I recently went to a back issue for the mod for connecting 2 PSU's together). Its that sort of thing that make the mag have its value. The other issue or even feature you had that I liked was on getting your games to run smoothly. What settings and how low can you go but I digress, Loved the new format and design. Keep up the good work! ;)
chrismarkham1982 12th April 2011, 15:40 Quote
you bring a good point sir, having a small say 2 page REGULAR feature on 1 maybe 2 games from the top ten chart about graphi settings for certain cards would be of benefit to a lot of people
GavX 12th April 2011, 15:55 Quote
Personally I like it... thought as great as being smaller is, my new issues are going to stick out like a sore thumb! I liked it, lot of good content, like that you have finally added a modding bit (like the good ole' days) and if you keep it up I am sure the modding area will be a very strong point in the magazine. Good job d00dz
p.s I only received mine yesterday after being off the mainland for birthday drinks for a few days, so made some good hungover/extremely tired reading last night
Comrade Woody 12th April 2011, 16:18 Quote
Lizard I accept your points, but I still suspect that ultimately, though reviews may now be longer and there are new sections, the amount of content will be no greater than it was previously. Certainly if there's 30% less text (as you suggested in an earlier post) and only around 12% more pages to compensate, then there's a net loss, but I do acknowledge that this doesn't account for the ratio of content to advertising.

My issue is not so much with the changes themselves though, although I can't say I really like them, but rather with the way they're being sold to the readership; do you not think that referring to an undoubtedly smaller format as “enlarged” is a little rich?


chrismarkham1982: I wrote less than a thousand words, so it'd be a pretty short essay. You might call going to the effort of measuring the two magazines excessive, but I'd argue that the numbers proved that worth the minute or so it took. I don't think I need to lighten up either: I had a legitimate complaint and the amount of words I use to express it is immaterial, you don't have to read them. Also, isn't expressing our opinions a large part of what forums are for?
chrismarkham1982 12th April 2011, 17:04 Quote
expressing opinions yeah, im not debating that and im also not saying that you shouldnt do it, all im saying is does it require such enthusiastic criticism to get your point across? if youve got a complaint then fair enough, no-one is going to flame you for that (well i wont anyway) all im saying is your complaint came across abit 'omg taxes have gone' like, thats all im saying, nothing bad about you at all:)
Comrade Woody 12th April 2011, 17:40 Quote
Haha, well yeah, I am known for being an enthusiastic complainer :D You should hear me when I'm in the pub and I've got something to rant about...

I wasn't suggesting that the changes were life altering, it just annoyed me. I write a lot so I don't think much of posting a few hundred words, but I can see why it might be seen as overly verbose for a forum... You're not the first person to comment on the length of my posts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrismarkham1982
no-one is going to flame you for that (well i wont anyway) ... nothing bad about you at all

I didn't see it as flaming or a personal attack, the defensive reply was just because I wanted to respond to you; I'm not the type to go online looking for arguments and I can disagree with people about things without throwing mud. I'm sorry if I gave the impression I had a problem with you: I don't :)
Chris_Waddle 12th April 2011, 18:06 Quote
In response to Comrade Woody:

When I first picked up my new copy, my initial thought was huge cost cutting / profit seeking.

As I work for a printing company I've done a bit of working out. Roughly speaking, the paper cost is around 40 to 50% of the cost of printing and binding the magazine.
Based on them using 80gsm paper (I'm not cutting up my mag to weigh it), the old mag, say having 128pp's of text, would weigh approx 360 grams per copy. The new mag now having say 144pp's of text, would weigh approx 330 grams per copy.
I have no idea on the print run, but say it was 25,000 copies, then there would be a saving of roughly 750kg. This will save something like £500 or 2p per copy - hardly a saving.

I won't go into all the in's and outs of finishing, but again, there won't be massive savings per copy due to each mag containing the same amount of paper.
If I was to speculate, I would think that the publisher has changed to this size as it 'fits' better onto someones new printing/finishing machine, allowing them to make a saving on the finishing cost (the new mag probably folds as 6x24pp's compared to 8x16pp's). Even if this is the case, the cost of actually printing and finishing the magazine is quite considerably less than the selling price.

Whilst the new size will give savings, they won't be as considerable as I initially thought. I cannot say from an editorial point what, or if, there are any savings, but from a purely production stance, this new size has not been instigated to 'rip us off'. I just thought I'd mention this to help calm the waters to those who think they are now being taken for a ride.

Still, after saying all of that, it no longer feels like a magazine to me; it's more like an instruction booklet.
Comrade Woody 12th April 2011, 18:27 Quote
I still think the content of the magazine, particularly the reviews, is very good.

I don't necessarily consider a reduction in size to be a rip off, what I object to is a smaller magazine being described as enlarged. I may be wrong and the ratio of content to advertising may indeed be such that the new design has more content as James said, but my first impressions are that it doesn't.

On an unrelated note: +rep for drinking Guinness ;)
chrismarkham1982 12th April 2011, 19:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Woody
Haha, well yeah, I am known for being an enthusiastic complainer :D You should hear me when I'm in the pub and I've got something to rant about...

I wasn't suggesting that the changes were life altering, it just annoyed me. I write a lot so I don't think much of posting a few hundred words, but I can see why it might be seen as overly verbose for a forum... You're not the first person to comment on the length of my posts.



I didn't see it as flaming or a personal attack, the defensive reply was just because I wanted to respond to you; I'm not the type to go online looking for arguments and I can disagree with people about things without throwing mud. I'm sorry if I gave the impression I had a problem with you: I don't :)

no worries, by the way ive got a guiness as-well

@ chris_waddle::?:)
javaman 12th April 2011, 19:57 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Woody


On an unrelated note: +rep for drinking Guinness ;)

I'm northern Irish, I should get rep by default then lol
Comrade Woody 12th April 2011, 22:51 Quote
Someone gave me rep the other day for posting an Oingo Boingo video...
javaman 12th April 2011, 23:32 Quote
lol you do get rep on here for some really random things
dibengineering 13th April 2011, 11:35 Quote
Anywho got "new" size mag through the door on monday and have to say Not as small as I feared and like what you'v done inside. So for me at least no worries , keep it up guys .
DiB.
coolius 13th April 2011, 12:21 Quote
I love the new format.
The slightly smaller size should help the mag getting scuff and torn when being delivered or being carried in my bag which I like. Of course it is a slight shame that it won't match all of the piles of old issues I have, but progress is progress!

Also liking the new layout and design. Much fresher and modern. The new opinion pages are goods as well, the new staff photos definitely give it a more personal feel. Also glad to see the back of those extremely cheesy "STOP PRESS" overlays in the recommended hardware section!

Definitey a good job guys! Two big thumbs up!
b0ng0 13th April 2011, 15:46 Quote
Very nice redesign, I didn't really notice the size change too much - I guess once I put in on the pile of my old CPCs it will be more noticable. On the plus side, it won't get bent going through the letterbox.

Nice and clean layout now, not as chaotic as it was before. Still pretty much the same good quality content although I still find it hard to read through a GPU mega-test unless I'm actually shopping around for a new one.
javaman 13th April 2011, 15:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by chrismarkham1982
you bring a good point sir, having a small say 2 page REGULAR feature on 1 maybe 2 games from the top ten chart about graphi settings for certain cards would be of benefit to a lot of people

What I would love to see is the game tested to destruction an performance analysis done on it. Lowest recommended GPU say at 19" (or what ever the most popular res is), Which setting give best visual results and which hurt FPS the most, Processor performance and GPU memory taken up. After all, we're seeing 512mb cards struggle at certain resolutions and settings compared to their 1gb counterparts. Another thing that would be great is driver analysis and multi gpu scaling. Hard had $1000 GPU testwith an HD6990 + HD 6970 vs GTX580 sli. I know CPC/Bit-tech are very anti mulit GPU setups and only last month done anything multi monitor set up related (personally I would love to see this as a standard test res). I would also love to find the answer to whats better between driver and application decided AA in each case. Games like half life 2 seem to work well with some forms of AA in the drivers but Far Cry 2 turned trees into green blobs unless application decided was used.
Most of this is probably better as a yearly article than a one game a week thing with results stored in a database or something. I hope you see this as more suggestions rather than complaining. I do understand that switching hardware and testing is tedious and time consuming and probably due to resources,its is beyond realistic to achieve but while motherboard and processor reviews use to meaning something sandybridge has sort of killed OC'ing and apart from slot layout, number of USB ports etc all thats left is to match a motherboard up to your curtains. Unless the mobo has a unique feature, longer reviews seem rather pointless. same with processors since overclocking is limited to top end chips.
Lassar 13th April 2011, 16:34 Quote
My two penneth....

Bit dissapointed with the new layout but hey personal opinion can live with that.

is it me or does alot of the content seemed repeated? I mean do we really need to know AGAIN how the 560 - 570 - 580 GFX cards perform? The GFX card testing this issue seems like a real space filler? :(

Even the Overclocking Masterclass (De-ja-vu) from the previous issue had a lot of repeated content!

FAR ! To many pages in my opinion given to game reviews. If i wanted to read about upcoming games I would buy PC Gamer. And does anyone actually own shogun? Do we really want to know how improve performance in games?

Personally I want to see more how to guides for complicated modding and reviews on CUSTOM hardware. Why are there no reviews on custom water cooling kit? Personally speaking I found the guide to install a fan quite amature and again im sure it has been repeated in a previous issue.

Comon guys.... this is CUSTOM PC.... not computer shopper/games master magazine !
Lizard 13th April 2011, 16:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lassar
is it me or does alot of the content seemed repeated? I mean do we really need to know AGAIN how the 560 - 570 - 580 GFX cards perform? The GFX card testing this issue seems like a real space filler? :(

All the graphics cards were tested with new games and drivers, so all the reviews were written fresh for that article so there wasn't any repetition per se. If you mean the cards, well yes, they've already been reviewed, but never as part of a complete buyers guide for graphics cards. Plus not everybody will have read the old reviews.
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Originally Posted by Lassar
Even the Overclocking Masterclass (De-ja-vu) from the previous issue had a lot of repeated content!

That's true, but it's not our fault that chips such as the i7-920 are so popular and therefore loads of readers have asked for a guide to overclocking it.
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Originally Posted by Lassar
Personally I want to see more how to guides for complicated modding and reviews on CUSTOM hardware. Why are there no reviews on custom water cooling kit? Personally speaking I found the guide to install a fan quite amature and again im sure it has been repeated in a previous issue.


There is more stuff like that in the works, but we don't have unlimited pages so you're never going to get EVERY topic covered in a single issue. For instance, there is more modding content in the new issue than in the last few years.
Kroy 13th April 2011, 18:29 Quote
stiiiiill waiting. On my mat this evening were two pro-AV referendum vote (YES!) leaflets, some clear magazine in a bag which turned out to be some guff from the bank and a tory party election leaflet. I'm off to check with the wife that my sub is actually active. Maybe she sneakily cancelled it when I muttered those famous words "I think it's time I upgraded my computer".
chrismarkham1982 13th April 2011, 19:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kroy
stiiiiill waiting. On my mat this evening were two pro-AV referendum vote (YES!) leaflets, some clear magazine in a bag which turned out to be some guff from the bank and a tory party election leaflet. I'm off to check with the wife that my sub is actually active. Maybe she sneakily cancelled it when I muttered those famous words "I think it's time I upgraded my computer".

you uttered thos words out loud for christ sake man do you value your manhood:)
tommo1975 13th April 2011, 22:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by saspro
Has the designer from PCFORMAT been employed at CPC?
I had to look twice to be sure I was reading the right magazine.

I wondered this too.

I hate the new page size. It feels too small and cheapens the magazine for me. I read the magazine cover to cover this morning for a second time and just can't warm to it in it's new size.

I'm re-evaluating my subscription now. In this time of cost cutting, there's no point me continuing to buy something I no longer like.

I also agree with some of the other comments on here. I certainly don't believe the reduction is size is anything but a cost cutting measure. Over the years I've seen countless magazines reduce their page sizes as a first step in cutting costs due to a declining market, falling sales etc.
Fizzban 14th April 2011, 12:56 Quote
Not keen on the new cpc elite list layout tbh. The information on each item is now gone and when you look at a picture of the new updated item, you then have to look down the list to find out what it specifically is. I used to enjoy window shopping if you like..now it's just a shopping list with no specs information.

I do however like the fact it has been extended and put into groups (games/gpus ect). So it's a mixed bag for me.

I'm happy enough with the rest of the mag. And I liked the mod and extended games section.
frontline 15th April 2011, 22:40 Quote
Plus: love the new layout

Minus: Graphics card megatest showing AMD cards as 'SLI' compatible - schoolboy error (see pages 96/97)
Lizard 16th April 2011, 00:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by frontline
Plus: love the new layout

Minus: Graphics card megatest showing AMD cards as 'SLI' compatible - schoolboy error (see pages 96/97)

I'm glad you like the new mag, but:

As I already pointed out in the other thread, please read the table again.

Nvidia cards are listed as SLI compatible.

AMD cards are listed as CrossFireX compatible.
frontline 16th April 2011, 00:07 Quote
Yes, sorry about that, purchased it after a few after work beers tonight and mis-read the table looking at the AMD cards listed along the top and the CrossfireX/SLi tabs along the bottom. Must learn not to try and read CustomPC whilst under the influence.

But loving the new layout. :)
Lizard 16th April 2011, 02:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by frontline
Must learn not to try and read CustomPC whilst under the influence.

No worries, I find exactly the same thing when trying to game under the influence. Suddenly I can't hit a barn door at 3 paces :o
Kroy 16th April 2011, 02:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lizard
No worries, I find exactly the same thing when trying to game under the influence. Suddenly I can't hit a barn door at 3 paces :o

wonder if my posty likes whisky for breakfast. That would explain how he's managed to miss putting the new subscribers edition of custom PC through my letterbox for the past week... :( I don't live in a barn either. Maybe that would have helped him find the right door.

There's always tomorrow. Otherwise, I'll be back on to subs line and asking them to extend my sub a month so I can go out and buy my own copy ;-)
Unicorn 16th April 2011, 12:27 Quote
Unfortunately I've only had a couple of chances to flick through the pages of this month's sub edition of CPC, so my comments here are first impressions only, and I will post some more detailed feedback very soon!

The good: It's smaller and easier to read and carry around, as well as store. Like many have mentioned, I also have a shelf in my wardrobe just for CPC mags that was just about big enough to fit them all in, but the newer size means that it'll be much easier to archive.

The overall feel of the mag has always been one of quality (both in the actual paper and the content) and I'm glad to see that hasn't changed. I still enjoyed the reviews even though they seemed (but may not actually have been) shorter.

Joe's Grumpy Gamer segment was a welcome addition as well as the fantastic games reviews, which are something I always thought CPC did well. It's good to see it getting the print area it deserves. The Dremel Trio review was awesome to see included and to read. It was so convincing that I have ordered one ;)

The hardware reviews were of a fantastic standard as always, and I was extremely pleased to see the graphics card megatest. The changes to the Custom Kit section were also a great move. It's much better laid out and easier to read in the new format.

The bad: I honestly don't appreciate the Folding section either losing a page or being bumped to the back of the magazine. I think it's an important part of the CPC team but if the restructure requires it there's not much I can do.

The new "Shopping list" style elite list isn't better than the last one, because it has far less information on it about the products. For someone like me that info was important. Now it just gives you a page reference from an older issue to look up so you can see what features it has. The "at a glance" style of the old elite list was much better.

The indifferent: The modding section is great but won't appeal to some readers because they've done it all several hundred times before. I fall into that category but I understand that many readers have been waiting for this section so I'm not calling it a bad move or anything.

The mag seems to have more adverts in it, but then you look at the amount of content and realize that it hasn't got any less content, so this must just be a perception thing. It won't lose me any sleep at night but it's just something that I noticed in flicking through.

Overall, more good points than bad and the new format gets a ;) from me! The things that I don't particularly like about it won't take long to get used to and some of the things which I don't find all that useful will appeal to other readers much more. Well done to all the team! :)
jetsetwilly 16th April 2011, 17:37 Quote
on the whole a thumbs up from me
guvnar 16th April 2011, 19:04 Quote
Well I've been away on holiday for a week and saw all the comments while I was away so was looking forward to getting back to my copy.

I have to say I thought the size was fine and no problem with the content. My only slight criticism is the elite listing missing the one line comments that gave you a brief idea why it wad included - bring that back and I think it's a good job!

Guys, chill out and relax it's a mag! :-)
adidan 16th April 2011, 19:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kroy
Maybe she sneakily cancelled it when I muttered those famous words "I think it's time I upgraded my computer".
:D

My GF asked last night 'why do you need 2 computers and 2 monitors?'. I asked why she needed more than one pair of shoes, she seemed ok with that.
Deders 16th April 2011, 20:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by adidan
:D

My GF asked last night 'why do you need 2 computers and 2 monitors?'. I asked why she needed more than one pair of shoes, she seemed ok with that.

Touche:D
khismet 16th April 2011, 21:06 Quote
Not wildly impressed to be honest; it looks like the styling of some other magazine has been borrowed, mostly PC Pro in the sequencing of sections.

In the end though, the page style isn't much of an issue - I don't like it much but the important thing is the content; and there, the big fail is the Elite section, which is absoutely rubbish compared to the old one - it's been dumbed down to the level of the PC Pro A-List or PC Plus (whatever their equivalent was). Previously it gave useful information about each item, now it just gives the name and a price - huge step backwards. It also hasn't escaped my notice that 2 of the "extra pages" have been achieved by stretching the Elite section over 2 more scantly-filled pages, but with much less information.

On the other hand, moving the folding stuff to the back is a plus - I never understood why you started the magazine with something which (I would say) is a minority interest rather than starting the magazine strongly.
dave99 16th April 2011, 22:31 Quote
I always liked Custom PC, it felt a bit special, a bit different to the run of the mill magazines. A bit "custom". I have been reading CPC since its first issue but the new mag feels like a rip off of every other mag out there, a bit cheap. It may have 16 "extra" pages but feels like it has 16 pages less.

And the Elite list, what's that all about? You have taken something that worked really well and turned it into a list for morons. Why would I buy any of the products on the list? Are they elite, recommended, or just something you picked out of a hat? There is no explanation.

I don't think I will buy CPC automatically like I have always done.

A real shame.
dave99 16th April 2011, 22:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by khismet
Not wildly impressed to be honest; it looks like the styling of some other magazine has been borrowed, mostly PC Pro in the sequencing of sections.

In the end though, the page style isn't much of an issue - I don't like it much but the important thing is the content; and there, the big fail is the Elite section, which is absoutely rubbish compared to the old one - it's been dumbed down to the level of the PC Pro A-List or PC Plus (whatever their equivalent was). Previously it gave useful information about each item, now it just gives the name and a price - huge step backwards. It also hasn't escaped my notice that 2 of the "extra pages" have been achieved by stretching the Elite section over 2 more scantly-filled pages, but with much less information.

On the other hand, moving the folding stuff to the back is a plus - I never understood why you started the magazine with something which (I would say) is a minority interest rather than starting the magazine strongly.

What he said.
dave99 16th April 2011, 23:05 Quote
http://lolpics.se/pics/482.jpg


I always bought CPC since the first issue without reading it in the shop because I knew it would be good and looked forward to reading it when I got home. Now it just looks like a clone of every other mag out there, so I assume the content will be too. And it is. The Elite list is a joke. Why is it elite?


Really dissapointed. You took a great format that worked and turned it into one that doesn't.

But I am sure you won't miss one dedicated reader.


Love the Bit Tech forums though. Let's hope you don't update that.
yogev_ezra 22nd April 2011, 16:17 Quote
So no one is willing to trade me his/her used copy of Issue 93? :'(
dave99 26th April 2011, 21:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by yogev_ezra
So no one is willing to trade me his/her used copy of Issue 93? :'(

You can have mine.
grishenko45 28th April 2011, 20:00 Quote
i love the new cpc design!!
Walibe 1st May 2011, 22:10 Quote
Its a superb layout and brave change. It doesn't take a genius to browse through other titles on the news stands such as Wired, Edge etc to see that CustomPCs layout was worst than AMIGA Format or Amstrad user published many moons ago. The new look is modern, and I imagine looks rather good in a digital format. Downside? Some of the guys in all their glory look like they are 12 years old, and when they talk about past relationships you do think - yeah right.

Excellent work, will certainly keep my subscription on for another year.
Walibe 1st May 2011, 22:12 Quote
Oh and I would consider dropping the Elite list, for whatever reason it just doesn't work anymore. Kinda like the cool wall.
Lizard 2nd May 2011, 00:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by Walibe
Oh and I would consider dropping the Elite list, for whatever reason it just doesn't work anymore. Kinda like the cool wall.

That's the first such suggestion I've heard so I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't think it works anymore as historically (in reader surveys) its been one of the highest rated sections of CPC.
leveller 2nd May 2011, 11:36 Quote
Strange, because I base my initial build ideas on the elite section and then work towards my budget from there. If anything I would love to see another higher section called:

"You seriously cannot buy anything better than this, more power hungry than this, more expensive than this"
Spreadie 4th May 2011, 10:15 Quote
Overall, I think it's an improvement.

The smaller size is fine by me, I like the grumpy gamer column, and the mag feels fresher. The scoring will take a bit of getting used to, but it's clear and easy to understand.

I'm not going to moan about the blow-hole mod - if this going to be a regular feature, you have to start somewhere. I think the main moans are from long time readers, who have 'read it all before'; as have I, but just because something was done three years ago doesn't mean it shouldn't be done again for the benefit of newer readers.

I don't think the graphics card roundup is a filler. It's always useful to have a group comparison on hand.

Maybe this issue was a little bit heavy on games reviews/previews, but not enough to get bent out of shape over.

Ultimately, it's best to wait for two or three issues to get a better feel for the new format, but first impressions are positive. ;)

May the fourth be with you.
DLDeadbolt 4th May 2011, 13:06 Quote
BTW, What are the 2 games pictured on page 130-131 of issue 093?

The 131 pic strikes me as Crysis, but I've only played the original and don't recall rocket launchers or snowy areas.
Spreadie 4th May 2011, 13:13 Quote
There are rocket launchers and snowy areas in the original Crysis game.
Claave 4th May 2011, 14:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by DLDeadbolt
BTW, What are the 2 games pictured on page 130-131 of issue 093?

The 131 pic strikes me as Crysis, but I've only played the original and don't recall rocket launchers or snowy areas.

the left one is battleforge and it's crysis warhead on the right.
Fizzban 4th May 2011, 15:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lizard
historically (in reader surveys) its been one of the highest rated sections of CPC.

Which begs the question, why did you change it? I flip straight past the elite section now as I thumb through my mag as it is no longer worth looking at more than once.
Lizard 4th May 2011, 15:32 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzban
Which begs the question, why did you change it? I flip straight past the elite section now as I thumb through my mag as it is no longer worth looking at more than once.

Just because something is highly rated doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement.

And I believe it has been genuinely improved:

1. There are more products listed, so it's now more comprehensive.
2. The layout is far clearer, so it's much easier to read and understand.
bagman 4th May 2011, 22:38 Quote
I personally really like the new layout of the magazine I think it needed a change and I am glad it was changed so that the custompc magazine has less content of bit-tech, so it is like 2 separate things.

I like the Modding section idea very useful imo when you get some better mods, and I think the genral layout makes a lot more sense it is much less clutted at the front of the mag now which was one of the bigger issues imo.

I would like to see some mass water cooling testing though especially as many people on the forums seem to turning to the idea.

But generally I really like it much easier to fit in my ruck sack as well.
Unicorn 7th May 2011, 11:40 Quote
I think a vote is required on the ellite list design to be honest, because the more I look at it (which for the record is a lot, I refer back to it more than any other section of the mag, more than any section of any mag in fact) the less I like it. Having that key "at a glance" information missing is a real loss for me because I have to go and google or look up every product that I want specs on in previous issues.

It's not exactly going to make me cancel my subscription but having lived and worked with it for a few weeks now I'm definitely not happy about that particular change.
vdbswong 7th May 2011, 14:14 Quote
Whilst i do think the old Elite List needed improvement from the "Clutter".

The new list has almost gone too far in the tidying department.
Kroy 8th May 2011, 11:19 Quote
Finally received the 'new' edition. It wasn't even a subscribers cover which I was a little peeved about. Has that been done away with too, or is it just because I was sent a second copy on account of my first one not reaching me?

However, the new format is fine. It feels like the information on the page is more in your face than before, so it's easier to read without scanning through lots of pages. It will take a bit of getting used to ofc, but I'm happy enough.

Now Dennis needs to sort out the delivery system so I don't end up until now to be given a standard shop copy.
Walibe 8th May 2011, 22:02 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
That's the first such suggestion I've heard so I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't think it works anymore as historically (in reader surveys) its been one of the highest rated sections of CPC.

I can't quite put my finger on it. Theres also the fact that it takes up alot of space to provide what is basically a list with some pictures.

Why do we we need lists of various PC builds? Surely most your readership is clued up, and their builds won't fit into a peg, hence why most will build rather than buy their new PC. I would prefer to see a top 10 list of the best Graphics cards, processors, cases, etc and at the back of the mag. Have you read Whatcar before or Topgear? They list each car, with its rating and a very brief summary. This I feel would be far more useful and in better keeping with the new mag which has clearly had so much put into it.

Don't listen to the reader surveys. We the general public have no idea of what we actually want :D. Plus when we're given it, it never usually works :).
ziiggy 10th May 2011, 21:54 Quote
I personally like the new design. It looks more refreshing. My only problem is the buyers guide section. Usually each part would be accompanied by a line or two saying the reasons why its a good choice, however all of the parts just have thr price next to them. When I started out building PC's, I found that section very helpful as I would know why those parts are good, therefore it was easier to compare with others. I dont think the new layout would help the newcomers much. Good design though! Keep it up! Thanks
balatro2005 15th May 2011, 19:56 Quote
One small complaint about the new bag it does not seem to cope with getting wet as well as the old magazine. Was reading the magazine in my bath and one of the pages ripped. I have dropped the old one in a couple of times and it’s never done this :-( . Other than that have to say its better than before.
Spreadie 17th May 2011, 12:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by balatro2005
One small complaint about the new bag it does not seem to cope with getting wet as well as the old magazine. Was reading the magazine in my bath and one of the pages ripped. I have dropped the old one in a couple of times and it’s never done this :-( . Other than that have to say its better than before.

I was reading mine in the bath last night, it was fine. Although, I'm not in the habit of dunking it in the water to test it's durability.
khismet 20th May 2011, 13:34 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizard
That's the first such suggestion I've heard so I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't think it works anymore as historically (in reader surveys) its been one of the highest rated sections of CPC.

Maybe because it's got virtually no useful information in it, any more?
nuc13ar 12th June 2011, 23:50 Quote
You guys are reading magazines in the bathtub? How long are you guys in there? I for one, love the new look., except for the author pictures, as I don't need to see anyone's dunlap. But the magazine's so much more easy for me to store now. I had been getting rid of my Mixmag magazines as the women looked too ugly and the records reviews were all stuff that I couldn't buy here anyway. So I had nothing to stack my computer mags with to fill up faster.
NethLyn 14th September 2011, 19:45 Quote
OK, I sat down and read issues 93 to 97 in one sitting, so it wasn't an instant reaction to the new look.

Columnist photography - is CPC/BT the land of the giants? Because it looks like you've all been stretched to fit the top of the opinion column pages from where the text starts on the page and you all look 12ft tall as a result.

Elite - It's good that the subbers' covers sometimes get a reprint in the Elite column. Dream PCs at the end feels like filler to make up for only five games, if it's not going to change for a whole year that space could be used elsewhere. Also the Samsung F3 - and any product with unclear warranty procedures if the company/division is sold - shouldn't be in Elite until the post-12-month warranty is clarified and I say that as an owner of one of those drives. It's one thing for the reader/punter to buy into something voluntarily where the warranty's unclear, quite another for the mag to go on officially recommending it.

Reviews - Page size didn't bother me, but what's the final word on Side facing HDD bays in cases? Good? Bad? Pre-issue 93 this was never decided editorially, so the reviewer's individual opinion caused confusion a lot of the time.

Custom Kit - These used to be much more free flowing, now that spread is all about the pictures and only two pages. If I'm actually reading the same amount of words then fair enough, but it's the only change to the mag that's for the worse. If it's always going to stay two pages, then it also means less mince pies at the end of the year

Fans Labs - Next time you do one, please use a boxout to compare the 80mm models, with the Ebuyer one pound special - it would be good to see if the generic unit can hold its own with any of the bigger brands - and actually, when the last fans labs went to press, one of the award winners couldn't be bought from QuietPC so it's a matter of having multiple sources sometimes - that's always been a potential issue though, separate to the look of the mag.


I always buy the PSU Labs issues whatever happens so the above is more about 93 to 96. Now that we're going from Autumn to Christmas you should get loads more kit in for reviews and that will make the mag more interesting if it felt a bit patchy before you started reviewing PSUs again and AMD finally got their new gear out.

On the benchmark side of things, will Crysis 2 be used in future graphical testing or is it (ironically) no longer demanding enough even with the DX11 patch?

So that's my two cents, it wouldn't be the new look that stopped me buying, but [EDIT] In the end I went for one last re-sub anyway.
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