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Bye Bye CRT

Posted on 18th Mar 2009 at 10:07 by Clive Webster with 23 comments

Having just moved house, the time has come to finally get rid of my old CRT monitor. For some reason I haven’t felt ready to part with it until now – possibly because the colours are so rich and vibrant. Certainly more so than the 22in screen I replaced it with (why oh why did I not get the BenQ FP241W or whichever 24in Dell UltraSharp was out at that time?). Anyway, after realising that I hadn’t even turned the Iiyama CRT on in a year, it was time to phone the council to take the screen to the recycling plant.

Bye bye, CRT.
Bye Bye CRT

I bought the Iiyama Vision Master Pro 413 in my second year of Uni, after dropping my original one while moving into new digs. After scouring many sources for an affordable yet decent 17in (16in viewable) screen, I found PC Pro recommending the Vision Master Pro 413 for around £200.

Bye Bye CRT

This was about three years before I started working for Pro, and I used the A-List recommendation as proof that I read the mag in my dummy review of my PC when applying for the job. Apparently this knowledge of the mag, and the fact I gave my then decrepit PC an absolute kicking, helped clinch the job. It was 2004 and I was still running a 1GHz Athlon (Thunderbird core) with a GeForce 3 for heaven’s sake! Man, how I needed a regular salary...

Anyhow, I was amazed by the picture quality from the £200 Iiyama, and its advanced features such as two D-SUB inputs and a maximum resolution of 1,600 x 1,200. Incredible! I could only use a 60Hz refresh rate at 1,600 x 1,200 though, so I typically used 1,280 x 1,024 at 75Hz to prevent my eyes going all squirly.

Bye Bye CRT

The sheer size of the screen was always an issue though, and the two feint horizontal lines that segmented the screen into three parts was always an irritation, even if I knew exactly why they were necessary.

Bye Bye CRT

Despite these niggles, there’s still a tinge of regret at getting rid of the screen. Something I can’t imagine happening when I finally bin my 22in TFT and its rubbish vertical viewing angles. It just goes to show, it really is worth investing a high-quality screen if possible.

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kenco_uk 18th March 2009, 11:16 Quote
Yes, you really should have bought a decent replacement screen! It's a shame that really good crt screens are worthless these days. Such is the march of progress.

Btw, when you next upgrade, go for a 24" PVA or IPS.
Krikkit 18th March 2009, 11:17 Quote
I loved my CRT. It's still here, and I haven't got the heart to rid myself of it, despite not using it... It's an Eizo 21", and it does crazy resolutions, but its days are numbered now really, last time I used it the colours were starting to wash out a little. The tube's going.
proxess 18th March 2009, 11:31 Quote
I loved my SyncMaster 17" as well... tho it started going pink really early in life. At the time I replaced it with a Samsung 17" TFT which cost around 350€ at the time. Haven't parted with it since.
azrael- 18th March 2009, 11:43 Quote
I hope my Viewsonic P75f+SB will last a good few years yet. I simply cannot see *any* TFT good enough to take its place. And mind you, my CRT monitor hasn't even a Trinitron CRT. It's only a "Diamondtron" from NEC/Mitsubishi.

To be honest, I find it a bit sad that even now TFTs cannot truly compare to CRTs and it's even sadder that you cannot even buy a high quality CRT any longer.

With TFTs you either get speed and lousy image quality and lousy viewing angles (TN) or (reasonably) good image quality and better viewing angles, yet slow-ish response times (xVA/IPS). And then there's the issue with input lag to top it off.
flibblesan 18th March 2009, 12:39 Quote
It's a shame you got the council to recycle it. It would have been better to offer it on freecycle instead.
Loom 18th March 2009, 15:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
It's a shame you got the council to recycle it. It would have been better to offer it on freecycle instead.

+1 to that.
UncertainGod 18th March 2009, 16:19 Quote
I'm still using my CRT, a Panasonic Panasync 19" and I love it. Far better image quality than any of the LCD's in this place.
Bluefan 18th March 2009, 17:18 Quote
Stil lovin' my 20" CRT, a Silicon Graphics GDM4011p, 1600x1200 @ 75hz.
wuyanxu 18th March 2009, 18:21 Quote
got Iiyama 19inch at my parents, fantastic monitor, truer colour than both LG 22inch and now my Samsung T240. it's still being used, 1600x1200 with that size is amazing.

shame they take up so much space, it's really the only downside to be honest.
Omnituens 19th March 2009, 02:29 Quote
I too felt sorry for my CRT when I threw mine away.

It was like it was saying "I Don't hate you...."

:(
cyrilthefish 19th March 2009, 02:33 Quote
Maybe i brought crappy screens, but i've never felt much loss getting rid of CRT's, the LCD's have always been better in my experience.

only thing i miss is the better scaling of low-res video on CRT's, that can be fixed by simply not playing them fullscreen...

Not having to worry about CRT's defaulting to 60hz in games with associated eye-melting = win
Volund 19th March 2009, 02:37 Quote
I'm still sticking with an old compaq one as my 2nd monitor, much nicer than my dell 19" primary monitor.

I really need to ditch it though, it is just way to big and bulky for my desk.
docodine 19th March 2009, 02:41 Quote
A few months ago, I switched on one of my first PCs, it was a Sony Vaio with Windows 95. It has a neat CRT monitor, with good speakers attached, and I was shocked at how much nicer everything looked. Colors are much more rich, I just hate the two horizontal lines, even if they're pretty faint.

If I could find a 24" CRT monitor, I would be using it right now. :P
azrael- 19th March 2009, 08:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by cyrilthefish
Maybe i brought crappy screens, but i've never felt much loss getting rid of CRT's, the LCD's have always been better in my experience.

only thing i miss is the better scaling of low-res video on CRT's, that can be fixed by simply not playing them fullscreen...

Not having to worry about CRT's defaulting to 60hz in games with associated eye-melting = win
It almost sounds as if you didn't configure your CRT(s) properly... :)

As for 60Hz in gaming, blame that on Microsoft. It's easily circumvented in any case. TFTs run at 60Hz all the time anyway, although you'll never experience flicker due to the nature of TFTs (there are a few circumstances under which it could happen anyway).
Slyr7.62 19th March 2009, 10:24 Quote
My dad's using 1 of our 2 ViewSonic G90F monitors and I'm using a NEC Multisync FE950(Trinitron tube ftw) . Plenty of space on these homemade desks . When talking about a different primary monitor for gaming/video compared to my NEC, an LCD would have to be @ least 22" because anything smaller isn't an upgrade. Me spending $100+ for a 19" LCD would be a waste when I have this FE950 . That's why I'm only eying the 21"+ LCD's($170 Acer 22" for instance).
Zut 19th March 2009, 17:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Loom
Quote:
Originally Posted by flibblesan
It's a shame you got the council to recycle it. It would have been better to offer it on freecycle instead.

+1 to that.

If something works the council will still re-use it. It may go to a local school or library or something.
Xir 20th March 2009, 20:18 Quote
...I still keep my old 22" around...even though it's broken (picture collapses after 5 min. cant find anybody prepaired to repair it)
ZERO <ibis> 21st March 2009, 00:53 Quote
I still use two crts for my main system. I think I would cry myself to sleep if something happened to the primary one.
Burnout21 22nd March 2009, 02:27 Quote
I have to say the move to LCD panels was a step backward in technology really, in terms of image quality.

I had to go LCD due to space limitations. plus i dont like the idea of shifting a 21in trinny every few months, they weigh a f*** load!
thehippoz 22nd March 2009, 02:44 Quote
loved the old sony trinitron crt's made back in the 90's.. had a couple of em then one went south- the other one is still as good as ever picture wise- it's over 10 years old =] it's not on my main rig anymore, it's on a rig were my girl makes tags now.. but I used to fps game on it- no input lag, high refresh rate, clear in low resolution.. you pretty much could hand a lcd guy his ass online =] what they are good for (and still are as the high refresh rate lcd's are still really expensive)
clumsy_culhane 29th March 2009, 03:37 Quote
I have a Compaq P110 , which uses a sony trinitron tube.. Its still going strong.. I love it :D
MarkW7 6th April 2009, 04:12 Quote
Ahhh.. Good old CRT's i have 6 including two 21''s :D
Though moving them isn't easy.
knuck 6th April 2009, 04:38 Quote
can't believe I replaced my Viewsonic P95f+. It was a BEAST for gaming and black was actually black

that was pretty much its only good sides though when you compare it to the style and thickness of an LCD .... but stupid LCDs will never be good for gaming, I had to say it (again)
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