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Windows 8: Performance Benchmarks

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Apocalypso 26th October 2012, 11:53 Quote
I can't get my head around not having the start button and program menu at the moment, the "Notro" interface is just too clunky on a desktop.
Madness_3d 26th October 2012, 11:55 Quote
Still think they should have done windows tablet and kept a more 7 like interface for desktops and non touchscreen laptops. Guessing a bit of the performance decrease is going to be down to less mature drivers, as shown in the AMD vs Nvidia example. Sticking with 7 myself. Maybe 9 will be good :D
rollo 26th October 2012, 12:01 Quote
Shocked at some performance benchmarks, Multi Tasking and nvidia suffering in widows 8 is wierd. Considering Nvidia has had beta drivers for win 8 up since early Beta.

Multi Tasking is the shock 150 points down is a big drop for most to suffer, its like going from one cpu to another just cause you upgraded from windows 7.

Will we get a Retest of this OS once Service pack 1 is released to test performance vs windows 7 then?

I already have 1 pc on windows 8 to test and so far my list of none working applications is getting bigger hoping some updates can fix a few things.

Coral X4 ( Crashes as soon as you edit a photo )

Adobe CS6 ( Fails to load )

Sony Vegas ( Fails to edit video files )

Final Fantasy 7 remake needs a patch to function again, Sound is not working, Screen Rez not functioning

Crysis 2 is getting patched as i speak will test again did not work before. Game instantly Crashes to desktop.

Dunguen Defenders does not want to boot not sure why.

been the main ones that i have tried. I think its something to do with GPU Drivers as all of them gain performance from the GPU.

Intend to test this on a touch interface in the next few days to see if its more fluent to use. I also need to rework some of my own programs to function in windows 8 which i guess is recode time, Funny thing is they worked fine in the beta so the code must of changed since then.

The Metro UI is not the worst thing in the world but im hoping it functions better on a touch device than it currently does on my pc.
mpe91 26th October 2012, 12:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by Apocalypso
I can't get my head around not having the start button and program menu at the moment, the "Notro" interface is just too clunky on a desktop.

The not having a start button is a bit misleading actually. If you move your mouse to where the start button would be, it still operates like a start button would, opening the metro start menu. As for it being clunky, I use it pretty much exactly the same way I used the Windows 7 start menu tbh, opening it, typing the name of what I want to open and hitting enter.

It reminds me of the way gnome works tbh.
captain caveman 26th October 2012, 12:31 Quote
I'm puzzled by 2 issues, i have tried windows 8 and it boots no faster on my system using a vertex 4 and asus gene motherboard than windows 7, and looking around the internet no other site claims windows 7 benchmarks better than windows 8
Brooxy 26th October 2012, 12:39 Quote
I've been using one of the RC versions for a while under VMWare Player, but I think now it's been released, I'll be upgrading my laptop in the near future.

Despite the results in the article, my laptop only gets used for the internet and a little bit of work, so I don't need to worry about taking a performance hit.

Also, I vaguely remember reading that Microsoft have said that they want to drop the desktop system, so it's probably best to get used to Metro now, before it effectively becomes mandatory.

As for my gaming rig though? Windows 7 is here to stay. I have a fairly low spec gaming rig (i3 2100, 4gb RAM) as it is, so every FPS counts.
V3ctor 26th October 2012, 12:45 Quote
Can't get used to he layout of things... and i don't find the shutdown button... lol...
Honestly, I'll pass... and if the OS continues like this, I'll guess Win7 will become the new Windows XP to MS
kosch 26th October 2012, 12:57 Quote
When is SP1 set for release? :)
impar 26th October 2012, 13:00 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by V3ctor
Can't get used to he layout of things... and i don't find the shutdown button... lol...
Its there. On the right charms bar. Under settings.
AngelOfRage 26th October 2012, 13:03 Quote
I've been using the release preview copy for some time now and have got used to it and find it easy enough to navigate round. For shutting down, I normally move the cursor to the bottom right corner to bring the side panel up, click settings and then power from there. Bit of a fiddle to start with, but now I'm used to it I've found myself trying to do it on other machines not on Windows 8.

The thing I dislike most though is if something (PDF, mailto link, picture, etc) opens in a native application, there doesn't seem to be any easy way of closing that program. Only way is to move cursor to the top left and click the desktop image that pops up?

One question though, what happens to the release preview copy I'm running at the moment? At what point will it break and tell me to upgrade?
tonyd223 26th October 2012, 13:05 Quote
Guys, you have the best hardware - but not everyone has SSD's and since they are so fast anyway, surely there's going to be very little difference between 7 and 8 in benchmarks? Might be worth changing the test spec a little to better represent...

Or maybe I just have SSD envy
Deders 26th October 2012, 13:14 Quote
Would be nice to know HDD boot times, also after a few programs are installed, I don't think many SSD users will be too concerned about boot time.
Nexxo 26th October 2012, 13:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hustler
It's nothing but a solution to a non existent problem.

Yup. Tablets do not exist and they are not the best selling computing device on the market.
Guinevere 26th October 2012, 13:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by captain caveman
I'm puzzled by 2 issues, i have tried windows 8 and it boots no faster on my system using a vertex 4 and asus gene motherboard than windows 7, and looking around the internet no other site claims windows 7 benchmarks better than windows 8

And was your test a scientific test? Did you compare two clean installs with the same 3rd party software and all settings matched? How did you time it? Was this a cold boot? A re-boot? Was this the release version of windows8? Every benchmark out there says win8 'can' boot faster than win 7.

And other sites to say (Just like bit-tech) that benchmark performance is very close to win7 with a few things faster and a few things slower. Of course it will vary across different hardware platforms and exact test conditions.

The take home lesson is windows 8 is unlikely to make your computer run faster than it would do on windows 8. You could be lucky and see an improvement but you could also be unlucky and see a performance drop. It all depends on your hardware, your drivers and what you're using it for.
Dave Lister 26th October 2012, 13:31 Quote
Just installed this on my HTPC and HATE the metro crap, and even when you get to the desktop there is no start button ! what a POS. Managed to find a program called ViStart which makes it more normal. This will definitely not be going on my main rig.
Ivoryspike 26th October 2012, 13:34 Quote
Upgraded late last night to get it all set up for today. I kinda like working through all the bugs and finding ways around things, glutton for punishment I guess. I have been using the Win8 under VM but I just find that I don't get to find 100% of problems/features that way untill I force myself to use it full time.

I did find I 'missed' the start bar and hit the first icon a few times as matter of habit. I am getting used to it though and agree with mpe91, it's much the same, hit win key and type.

Some apps don't scale well atm (mail) and barely fill 2/3's of my screen @ 2560x1440. I'm sure this can be fixed though with some re-coding.
fingerbob69 26th October 2012, 13:37 Quote
Talking of making things faster have/will BT being doing a piece on accelorater type ssd's?

More on topic ...as I've said before and as someone has said above... Win7 is the new XP.
captain caveman 26th October 2012, 13:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Guinevere
And was your test a scientific test? Did you compare two clean installs with the same 3rd party software and all settings matched? How did you time it? Was this a cold boot? A re-boot? Was this the release version of windows8? Every benchmark out there says win8 'can' boot faster than win 7.

And other sites to say (Just like bit-tech) that benchmark performance is very close to win7 with a few things faster and a few things slower. Of course it will vary across different hardware platforms and exact test conditions.

The take home lesson is windows 8 is unlikely to make your computer run faster than it would do on windows 8. You could be lucky and see an improvement but you could also be unlucky and see a performance drop. It all depends on your hardware, your drivers and what you're using it for.

Probably not the most scientific but a clean install of windows 8 on the identical ssd versus my trusty well used gaming rig install of windows 7 and i repeat windows 8 doesnt boot faster
RichCreedy 26th October 2012, 13:46 Quote
if you cant find the shutdown button, create a shortcut on your desktop

right click blank area of desktop, select new, shortcut

in the type the location of the item, type shutdown -s

then call it shutdown

you can do the same for restart as well replacing the -s with -r

oh and these can be pinned to the start screen as well
Phoenixlight 26th October 2012, 13:59 Quote
Please do another review with the AMD FX-8350 as well because the new scheduler in WIndows 8 is supposed to improve performance.
Griffter 26th October 2012, 14:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by RichCreedy
if you cant find the shutdown button, create a shortcut on your desktop

right click blank area of desktop, select new, shortcut

in the type the location of the item, type shutdown -s

then call it shutdown

you can do the same for restart as well replacing the -s with -r

oh and these can be pinned to the start screen as well

bwahahahahahaha, has microsoft brought out something that made ppl even consider, implementing and posting a way to create a shutdown shortcut??? hahahaha have never ever thought of this. great idea!!!

ahhh microsoft... are u listening to what u made ppl do with ur new "easier" OS
Brooxy 26th October 2012, 14:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Griffter
bwahahahahahaha, has microsoft brought out something that made ppl even consider, implementing and posting a way to create a shutdown shortcut??? hahahaha have never ever thought of this. great idea!!!

ahhh microsoft... are u listening to what u made ppl do with ur new "easier" OS

Off topic question : What happened to Unicorn? :)
Griffter 26th October 2012, 14:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Brooxy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Griffter
bwahahahahahaha, has microsoft brought out something that made ppl even consider, implementing and posting a way to create a shutdown shortcut??? hahahaha have never ever thought of this. great idea!!!

ahhh microsoft... are u listening to what u made ppl do with ur new "easier" OS

Off topic question : What happened to Unicorn? :)


ha!! still waiting to be caught!
CraigWatson 26th October 2012, 14:46 Quote
My personal two pence on Windows 8:

I will not be using it. I have no desire to use Windows of any version unless absolutely necessary and I have no hesitation in stating my belief that Windows 8 will be another Vista for Microsoft. They have missed the boat by a number of years for the tablet market, they're outclassed by iOS and Android.

On the desktop, Microsoft are trying to push an OS that has no place in today's market, where the majority of users are still using the 'traditional' non-touch interfaces of a mouse and keyboard. They're trying to push an OS that requires people to buy new hardware, which in today's financial conditions is extremely difficult. I know people that still have Core2Duo laptops. Why? Because they work, and most people don't see the need to fix what isn't broken.

Ultimately I refuse to use an OS that I don't need to use. I didn't buy Mountain Lion because I wasn't going to use half of the features, and I'm not going to buy Windows 8 for the same reason - it's a pointless upgrade.
Coltch 26th October 2012, 15:12 Quote
Will be upgrading my Sony Netbook when the Win8 CP runs out as it is far superior to the POS that Win 7 starter is.
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