Unfortunately being generally slower all round than windows 7 means I will be avoiding this, unless BT think the speed issues will be fixed with some patches ? Sadly I will have to by 3 upgrade copies for friends and family because they have recently moved to SSD's and are still on XP, so need the newer OS's features.
I think ill be sticking with windows 7 on my desktop since I do my gaming on that and wouldnt want to think the OS was holding back to system, but I do think I will be picking up Windows 8 to go on my Inspiron Duo touchscreen laptop. I think as the article said, its only really the touchscreen features that make this appealing over Windows 7
Crysis 2 not running is the most disturbing result reported here. If many other apps and games also don't run, it's a showstopper - and most apps run on PCs are not available to the public, they are produced by internal IT departments in companies, MS can't test for them all, they must simply be very conservative with breaking changes.
The people most sanguine about the new start menu replacement are those who type to find what they want to launch. I'm not one of them; I work by spatial memory, I often can't remember names of apps, and rely on categorization and position to find them. I have a terminal for apps I start by name. A huge 2D dump like Metro isn't what I need; I replaced Windows 7's menu with a Windows XP-like version using ClassicShell, but I don't use the Programs menu, instead I have folders like Games, Development, etc. where applications would get pinned if that feature was enabled. All in all, it's like early 2000s Linux start menus, and it's what works for me. But I expect ClassicShell will still work with Windows 8.
As expected on a new OS, really. Still a lot of tweaking to do.
Hopefully it will evolve to reach at least the same performance as W7, if not a bit more.
Whoever has an old XP or Vista license can still take advantage of the upgrade reduced launch price without losing W7.
I've upgraded to Windows 8 pro and been running it for a few days now. I haven't noticed any performance hits over win7. Game frame rates seem to be similar to what I can remember. During my general daily usage, I would say that win8 is lighter than 7, it's reduced ram usage by upto a gig in my case.
I do agree with the point about finding a shutdown button... I find the easiest way is to alt+f4 on the desktop. Also, an issue I have experience that isn't mentioned here is connecting to network shared files. It finds the computer on the network, you try to open it and gives you a "The network path was not found" error. Then, try a few mins later and it will work. Not sure if that is just me though.
My biggest gripe at the moment though, is my phone drivers don't support windows 8 so I can't manage my phone storage in the traditional way :( (a word of warning for any HTC users with phones that mount in mtp)...
Well that silences all the people harping on about increased performance. If that had been the case i probably would have reluctantly moved over to 8, but its seems its not. No upgrade for me. Well for just now anyway, one can assume it will only get better.....
im concerned with the only one spot for each type... images, files etc. i like my own folders, i have never used the pictures and movies folder windows gives. and u cant do anything in win8. u have to switch to win8 "old desktop look" to create folders and manage then. or to even go through them. why would u take that part away from users in win8??
on top of that. win8 wont see those pics, u must agin go to the old desktop and add it from there to be seen in win8 images block.
search... u cant search to pc and do something else while its running. once u exit the seach full screen window, it stops. win8 is stopping me from doing proper ummm... computing!
Like it or not the vast majority of users will be using Win8 12 months from now.
Either through upgrade incentives, OEM bundle deals or the desire to have the current skill set exposure to the new OS (a trait of most IT guys I know)
Im a big Microsoft supported - they've kept me in business since the early 90s, however I wasnt a big fan of the new OS particularly in its beta form, however I know I'll be using it before long, at least at home and for games - especially when Nvidia release improved drivers.
Originally Posted by Hustler It's nothing but a solution to a non existent problem.
Microsoft had an problem. It was losing the touch-enabled devices war to Android and Apple, they needed a touch UI to compete. So they are just using their traditional computing devices dominance to force every one to learn this new UI, offering no official alternative, in the hopes that people will get touch-enabed devices with Microsoft Windows in it, either WP8, WRT or W8.
Yes we could do with some bulldozer benchmarks in windows 8.
I'm having no problems at the minute except I have installed the 32-bit version. So i'm only reading 3.47GB of memory not 8GB. I want to make windows 8 my primary operating system for doing everything basically and move windows 7 to my AMD pc.
Can you please post boot times comparison, more application loading times, like office, 3d max or other autodesk apps, some heavy applications. OS Memory consumption after long periods of time etc.
It seems to me that while the UI will be annoying for pcs with just mouse keyboard setup. I cant stop to think that the games performance will be mainly due to GPU drivers.
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ReplyThe people most sanguine about the new start menu replacement are those who type to find what they want to launch. I'm not one of them; I work by spatial memory, I often can't remember names of apps, and rely on categorization and position to find them. I have a terminal for apps I start by name. A huge 2D dump like Metro isn't what I need; I replaced Windows 7's menu with a Windows XP-like version using ClassicShell, but I don't use the Programs menu, instead I have folders like Games, Development, etc. where applications would get pinned if that feature was enabled. All in all, it's like early 2000s Linux start menus, and it's what works for me. But I expect ClassicShell will still work with Windows 8.
edit, steam have patched my version, and it now works without changing directx mode
Would of been interesting to see Vista in that review as I know quite a few people still on Vista who are happy and thinking of skipping 7 for 8.
Thanks. In *your opinion* 'it's crap', and you obviously can't wait to try and slant the opinion of others. Nice.
I've been using it since the RTM, and it's not crap. IMO.
I think I'll wait for a while, let them patch it up, and then not buy it.
where is that entire line do i oppress the opinions of others?
every comment here is ppls own opinion, adding IMO does not then only make it so.
As expected on a new OS, really. Still a lot of tweaking to do.
Hopefully it will evolve to reach at least the same performance as W7, if not a bit more.
Whoever has an old XP or Vista license can still take advantage of the upgrade reduced launch price without losing W7.
I do agree with the point about finding a shutdown button... I find the easiest way is to alt+f4 on the desktop. Also, an issue I have experience that isn't mentioned here is connecting to network shared files. It finds the computer on the network, you try to open it and gives you a "The network path was not found" error. Then, try a few mins later and it will work. Not sure if that is just me though.
My biggest gripe at the moment though, is my phone drivers don't support windows 8 so I can't manage my phone storage in the traditional way :( (a word of warning for any HTC users with phones that mount in mtp)...
on top of that. win8 wont see those pics, u must agin go to the old desktop and add it from there to be seen in win8 images block.
search... u cant search to pc and do something else while its running. once u exit the seach full screen window, it stops. win8 is stopping me from doing proper ummm... computing!
That made me have a good hearty laugh !
Either through upgrade incentives, OEM bundle deals or the desire to have the current skill set exposure to the new OS (a trait of most IT guys I know)
Im a big Microsoft supported - they've kept me in business since the early 90s, however I wasnt a big fan of the new OS particularly in its beta form, however I know I'll be using it before long, at least at home and for games - especially when Nvidia release improved drivers.
Pass already. Especially all issues with hardware devices issues, and custom software the testbed machine here at work has.
I will point to the fact that in many big companies VB6 in house apps are still used. And they don't work on W8.
W7 is the new XP.
I'm having no problems at the minute except I have installed the 32-bit version. So i'm only reading 3.47GB of memory not 8GB. I want to make windows 8 my primary operating system for doing everything basically and move windows 7 to my AMD pc.
It seems to me that while the UI will be annoying for pcs with just mouse keyboard setup. I cant stop to think that the games performance will be mainly due to GPU drivers.
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