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yakyb 20th June 2009, 10:13

great read for a saturday morning

i do lik those flat cables didnt know so much work went into them

capnPedro 20th June 2009, 10:32

Oh man, those stools look uncomfortable!

Dr. Strangelove 20th June 2009, 11:10

That was a nice read! although I could not find the guy in a box :-(

also what is wave soldering?

NethLyn 20th June 2009, 11:28

Best feature I've read on the site since joining up, and good timing with the PSU labs in Issue 71. I've got two Seasonic PCs rebranded by A***c and to cut a short story shorter, you wire them up, switch them on, they just work day in day out, have sailed through their first year without cutouts or other power-related incidents, have survived surges and the smaller of the two, draws just 100W from the wall with a non-performance graphics card- for just 2D work in a Socket A machine, I don't want to use any more.

lewchenko 20th June 2009, 11:55

My last 3, if not 4 PSU's have been Seasonic. I had no idea where they came from , nor cared.

However, that got me thinking after reading this article.... are there any PSU's (that are decent) still made in the UK ?

Bindibadgi 20th June 2009, 12:02

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Originally Posted by lewchenko
My last 3, if not 4 PSU's have been Seasonic. I had no idea where they came from , nor cared.

However, that got me thinking after reading this article.... are there any PSU's (that are decent) still made in the UK ?

Made in the UK? Made

None, never. Everything is done in the far east.

wuyanxu 20th June 2009, 12:19

all of them are hand made?! i thought it's all done on an assembly line with a couple machines.

my Corsair Hx620 is a Seasonic built unit right?

Bindibadgi 20th June 2009, 12:31

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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
all of them are hand made?! i thought it's all done on an assembly line with a couple machines.

my Corsair Hx620 is a Seasonic built unit right?

First goes through the SMT machine, then the rest is hand installed. :)

It's mostly mechanically soldered, but there are some inevitable hand touchups - the better ones are engineered to have as minimal as possible. :)

HX620 - ya.

Jipa 20th June 2009, 12:54

Didn't really read it through, but looking at the pictures it just rises one question: How come I'm yet to find any black hair in a PSU :P

WildThing 20th June 2009, 13:55

Very good read! I'm always interested in what's going on behind the scenes at these places.

capnPedro 20th June 2009, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Jipa
Didn't really read it through, but looking at the pictures it just rises one question: How come I'm yet to find any black hair in a PSU :P

Quality control!

*mat-ster* 20th June 2009, 15:31

The ISO certificates displayed are the old ones replaced by ISO 9001:2000 which will be replaced by ISO 9001:2008.
Bindi you may want to tell them to change them......!

GregTheRotter 20th June 2009, 18:02

It seems you were using the popup flash in your shots because of the enormous shadow in a fair few of the shots ;) Other than that, interesting read :)

C-Sniper 20th June 2009, 18:24

Great read, I always enjoy looking at how things are made behind the scenes.

Looks like I will be sticking with corsair for a while too. My 620HX has yet to even hiccup.

dicobalt 20th June 2009, 18:25

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Seasonic also claims this to make it greener than every other PSU company: instead of pandering to a typically "disposable" tech industry mantra, by investing in a core PSU for longer and only changing the cables it means less waste. I do like this noble idea, however, if products like netbooks have shown us anything, people are less inclined to spend more money on a single lasting product because the act of upgrading and buying a shiny new thing is infectious. Unless Seasonic can guarantee future compatibility we're not sure how many people will bite for this selling angle.

I go for this angle. Also, I have a 300W PcPower&Cooling psu from 1995 that still works, I paid alot for it, but then I haven't had to buy 3 peice of crap replacements since then. I have had to deal with PSU failures from every PSU I have ever tried except PcPower&Cooling. I don't buy anything else, because they all fail. I dont use air conditioning, I'm in hot temps here in south florida, and some machines I sent to sonora mexico. If the PSU was not PcPower&Cooling, they all failed. I am sick and tired of crappy power supplies because they mean downtime which means loss of money. Downtime costs me much more then the price difference of a crappy PSU vs one that was properly engineered, manufactured, and tested. Stop building crap all you cheap ass ghettotronic companies.

Sifter3000 20th June 2009, 18:31

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Originally Posted by dicobalt
ghettotronic

That'd be an awesome name for a components company :p

thehippoz 20th June 2009, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Jipa
Didn't really read it through, but looking at the pictures it just rises one question: How come I'm yet to find any black hair in a PSU :P

red hairs only :D

Bindibadgi 20th June 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by dicobalt
I go for this angle. Also, I have a 300W PcPower&Cooling psu from 1995 that still works, I paid alot for it, but then I haven't had to buy 3 peice of crap replacements since then. I have had to deal with PSU failures from every PSU I have ever tried except PcPower&Cooling. I don't buy anything else, because they all fail. I dont use air conditioning, I'm in hot temps here in south florida, and some machines I sent to sonora mexico. If the PSU was not PcPower&Cooling, they all failed. I am sick and tired of crappy power supplies because they mean downtime which means loss of money. Downtime costs me much more then the price difference of a crappy PSU vs one that was properly engineered, manufactured, and tested. Stop building crap all you cheap ass ghettotronic companies.

PC Power and Cooling Silencer?

Guess who makes it...

Bindibadgi 20th June 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by *mat-ster*
The ISO certificates displayed are the old ones replaced by ISO 9001:2000 which will be replaced by ISO 9001:2008.
Bindi you may want to tell them to change them......!

Their 2009 ones were being done 2 weeks after I visited.

dicobalt 20th June 2009, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
PC Power and Cooling Silencer?

Guess who makes it...

No it was not a silencer it was a Turbo Cool.

Bindibadgi 20th June 2009, 18:59

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Originally Posted by dicobalt
No it was not a silencer it was a Turbo Cool.

Ahh fair enough :)

Sir Digby 20th June 2009, 19:10

Hmmm, would there ever be a possibility to talk about the work conditions in the factories?

I suppose companies would make an effort to present it well to you so it'd be difficult to get an accurate idea of the conditions...

kenco_uk 20th June 2009, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Jipa
Didn't really read it through, but looking at the pictures it just rises one question: How come I'm yet to find any black hair in a PSU :P

The only hair I've ever seen is coarse.

Groan

dicobalt 20th June 2009, 19:35

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Originally Posted by dicobalt
No it was not a silencer it was a Turbo Cool.

I paid about $150 for it i believe. I was introduced to the brand by a engineer who used to make his own MCI/VL/PCI cards. He told me to never ever use anything else way back then in 1995. I should have listened to him lol.

Elton 20th June 2009, 20:21

I regret not buying a HX-620, but the Antec True Power Trio 550w, is still decent for my uses..

BTW is that a Seasonic built one?

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