I like going to a store, geeking around there for a while, and buying something.. Why would you replace that?! And you cant collect downloaded games.. Sure, you can put the games on discs, but it's just not the same thing!
And someone said that cds and dvds break after a while, but you can always download the stuff from steam. That's just bullshit! If you take care of your cds and dvds, they dont break. And I bet that they'll remove stuff from the steam servers in a few years.
Retail is the way to go. Steam is good for some stuff tho.
Originally Posted by Jokkocze That's just bullshit! If you take care of your cds and dvds, they dont break. And I bet that they'll remove stuff from the steam servers in a few years.
Originally Posted by cjmUK - Firstly, we do a roaring trade in second hand games on here (as do many other forums and ebay). I also lend games or give games to my nephew. Unfortunately we can't do this with Steam games - the games are tied to your account, and AFAIK it is not possible to trade a game on. There are a number of games on my steam account that I would like to sell on/give away but I can't. The only alternative I can think of is to create a Steam account for each game you buy, but this largely defeats the object.
I agree with the game selling part of Steam. It is a big problem for a lot of people. The best and easiest wy to solve this on Steam is to have an option in Steam to generate a "Sale Code" for a game. You right click the game in the steam list and select the "Sale Code" option. Steam would then generate a unique code for that game on your account. When you sell the game to someone (physically or however) you give them the "Sale Code" which they can then input in to their Steam account. This code will be recognised by the servers and it will then transfer the game from the sellers account to the buyers account. I am pretty sure this could be extremely easily implemented. It would also save a lot of hassle for the Steam admins getting through all those emails about s/h games with game codes.
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Originally Posted by cjmUK - Secondly, Steam games are often cheaper outside steam. For example, I got X3: Reunion for around £8 which was much less than the price on Steam, but they won't allow me to use my serial to download the game through Steam (and thus easily keep it patched etc). This stance appears purely to be an 'encouragement' for you to buy through steam rather than get the best price.
Some games allow you to buy the physical disc and then add it to the Steam library. Quite a few in fact. For some reason some will not, but this is not down to Valve/Steam otherwise it would be the case for all games. It is definitely a publisher/developer decision.
I have a few other points that i would like to be addressed by Steam in the near future:
- Default settings for all games based on the same engine, including mods.
I get really tired of having to change the default setting of ALL my HL2 mods. Every time i install a new one i have to change all the settings. It is a right pain. They should take the default settings from those of the HL2 installation. You could then tweak it at will if you wanted but most people probably wouldn't.
- Offline mode
A comprehensive offline mode that worked properly. So many people have problems with this. I never used to but have not tried it in 2 years so couldn't say if i now have problems too. It is a big gripe with a lot of people.
If these issues can be addressed then I can't see any distribution system ever catching up with Steam. In my mind it would be about as perfect as you can expect (aside from the pricing issues, but that can't be helped by Steam/Valve).
Everytime bit-tech promotes the absolutley horrible Sam&Max series in anyway on this site I die a little bit inside. There is a reason that the entire series of 6 games is available on Steam for $8.95. I love everything else about this site, but everytime something with Sam&Max comes up I cringe in horror. so please stop promoting the series.
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And someone said that cds and dvds break after a while, but you can always download the stuff from steam. That's just bullshit! If you take care of your cds and dvds, they dont break. And I bet that they'll remove stuff from the steam servers in a few years.
Retail is the way to go. Steam is good for some stuff tho.
Will they? I doubt it
I have a few other points that i would like to be addressed by Steam in the near future:
- Default settings for all games based on the same engine, including mods.
I get really tired of having to change the default setting of ALL my HL2 mods. Every time i install a new one i have to change all the settings. It is a right pain. They should take the default settings from those of the HL2 installation. You could then tweak it at will if you wanted but most people probably wouldn't.
- Offline mode
A comprehensive offline mode that worked properly. So many people have problems with this. I never used to but have not tried it in 2 years so couldn't say if i now have problems too. It is a big gripe with a lot of people.
If these issues can be addressed then I can't see any distribution system ever catching up with Steam. In my mind it would be about as perfect as you can expect (aside from the pricing issues, but that can't be helped by Steam/Valve).