Yes, you are right. When doing my research I found many horror stories and since buying a camera preceeds all usage and practices, I decided to launch with this chapter. All other chapters (5 or 6 of them) will be all technical.
My schedule is probably one of these a month. But, if we get a lot of feedback and/or suggestions of what you want to see, we could ramp it up a bit. I have my own agenda but I am interested in what our readers want to see. Keep in mind, there are a lot of great digital photography websites out there. I'm trying to keep this in context as to how it applies to our audience.
Good opening eddie_dane, I purchased my first digital camera about a year ago and had similar experiences when hunting for a good buy, in the end I found what I wanted for a bargain price at a reputable camera store.
Looking forward for the next chapters, I haven't really played around with most of the settings on my camera yet, and since I spend most of my free time here on bit-tech it would be a great way to learn
Personally I'd like to see more than 1 chapter a month though ;)
EDIT: btw, is that a pic of you camera? good choice if it is ;)
Looking forward for the next chapters, I haven't really played around with most of the settings on my camera yet, and since I spend most of my free time here on bit-tech it would be a great way to learn
Personally I'd like to see more than 1 chapter a month though ;)
EDIT: btw, is that a pic of you camera? good choice if it is ;)
Yes, that's my new baby, the Panasonic FZ20. :D
Since different models handle features so differently, future chapters will cover the features, what they are intended for and some practical examples of why you should use them (we'll also include flashes and tripod type accessories).
I was after the lesser one, FZ10, but I couldn't find anyone who had any in stock so ended up with a Fujitsu S602Pro, I got a 1gig microdrive chucked in for free so I couldn't say no, also, I prefer regular 'AA' batteries.
I'm reasonably happy with it although I find it has really poor auto focusing ability. Once I learn to use it properly and can justify an upgrade I'll be looking again at Panasonic or Canon :)
Originally Posted by Lord_A I knew it was 20 instead of the 15 ;)
I was after the lesser one, FZ10, but I couldn't find anyone who had any in stock so ended up with a Fujitsu S602Pro, I got a 1gig microdrive chucked in for free so I couldn't say no, also, I prefer regular 'AA' batteries.
I'm reasonably happy with it although I find it has really poor auto focusing ability. Once I learn to use it properly and can justify an upgrade I'll be looking again at Panasonic or Canon :)
Cant wait for the next set of articles. no matter how many websites are out there none are going to be specific to a comunity such as this and those articles require more effort than reading the top article on bit-tech
Well considering that i work as a sales associate for black's photography if any of you have been to canada (astrals in quebec). I can give a few tips.
Look for a place that doesn't sell on comission, otherwise u all need a cannon 20d with upgraded lens package (2500 dollars)
wide selection of cameras from low end (olympus d series maybe or kodaks) right to the top (nikon d70 or canon 20D)
if they dont let u play with the camera first, dont bother
if they wont refer u somewhere else if u need it, walk away. People are amazed when we tell them they can get something better or cheaper somehwere else. Good customer service makes it a better place to deal with
if you cant justify buying the digital slr u really want, dont bring ur wife/parents/signifigant other to talk you outta it :D
make sure you add a part in furture guides that pictures dotn need to be 22000x2000000000 to look good...Browsing the project log section burns up my dsl modem with lazy non resizing people...
Originally Posted by Haddy make sure you add a part in furture guides that pictures dotn need to be 22000x2000000000 to look good...Browsing the project log section burns up my dsl modem with lazy non resizing people...
Agreed, I've said theres more to image quality than the pixel count for a while now (mainly to defend my 3.3 mpix cam ;)).
^^^ definitely
i have a 3.3mp olympus 3040 and it takes much better pics than what ive seen from new 5mp "fashion" and compact cameras
although i have a 6.3mp canon as well, and it takes better pics than the olympus, but we wont go there :)
seems like a lot of people just take the MP into account, ie any 5mp camera is better than any 3mp camera, was in jacobs a bit ago and overheard someone that came in and asked what small 5mpox+ camera theyd reccommend for taking everyday pics and viewing them on a pc and not printing
All good points. An example is the camera I got, the Panasonic FZ20. It's a 5MP camera. Panasonic makes a 2,3, and 4 variation of essentially the same design. The image quality of the lower resolution cameras is actually better in certain circumstances (Higher ISO's). I chose mine because it was a combination of a couple other features that had an inherent value. MP only really translates to printing and cropping, a lot of people really overlook that especially since most folks will only print 4x6 prints, if ever and has no real bearing on pics intended to post on the web. I will address these issues and more in future chapters so stay tuned but keep commenting so I make sure the series stays on track to what you like to see.
I got a refubished fuji direct from fuji for my other half's xmas pressie. It was a great saving and had the same warantee as the normal version. Not to mention being in perfect condition.
This could very well come in handy! (A guide to digital photography)
But I found the first part a bit dissapointing.
It was more a guide to purchasing a digital camera.
I just had an experience with A&M Photo World. They advertized in Outdoor Photography...full page ad. Even though they did not put their address in their ad...anywhere...it was assumed it was just a mail order firm. They showed the best price for a Panasonic FZ-15K by far. Showed $319.99 in the Feb 2005 issue. Went online to order and found the price at $369.99. Called them to find out what the correct price was and then they quoted me $409.99 saying that the lower priced models were not USA models and they were OUT of them. But could sell me the $409.99. I said, "No" but went back to the website and attempted to order the one at $369.99 which was still a pretty good price. They called me later to confirm the purchase...and tried to sell me another battery saying the one that came with it was not full power. I declined because I had a FZ1 with two batteries that fit the FZ-15. Shortly after that I got an email saying that my order was cancelled.
I told a friend about this place as he was looking at a Fuji S7000 and the price they asked was the best he'd seen. I had warned him but he gave it a try...and they said they had them at that price. When he went ahead with the order they then asked what warranty he wanted to buy. He said he'd just take the manufacturer's warrenty that came with the camera. They said that none came with it and it would cost him about $100 for one thru them. So he cancelled. I found another place that was actually $6.00 lower in price than their mid price and got it from them. It came...with warranty...full battery and all. I am happy but not with that company. So be careful as the article says...and look around very good. Good deals can be found but you have to be careful.
I'm looking forward to part 2. Already have a camera and hope future articles can help me take better pix for posting projects. I haven't taken the time to really dig into my camera's features that may help. Would prefer to be led by the hand, rather than the trial and error method. Very detailed an informative article on what to watch out for in buying a camera (had no clue about the "grey market") and will keep it in mind for the future.
I really appreciate the comments. A lot fall right in line with what I had in mind for the series and some good ideas for future content that I had not considered. Just a heads up. The next chapter will be about how to find the right camera for you based on such elements as: features, price, size, accessories, etc.
BigTBird, I really appreciate your testimony and welcome to bit-tech.net I hope you stay. I would really like to avoid this thread being a slagging thread. I would actually really like to hear your stories, your experiences are invaluable but let's all try to keep individual business names out of it. I know this sounds counter productive when we are discussing chosing a safe place to buy from but it could get ugly. If you have a story of a happy purchase, by all means list them here too.
I'll start the ball rolling. A prime example of some of the principals of what I covered and a true indicator of how business has changed is where I bought my new camera. I found a pretty good deal (not the best but close enough) at a website for a national retail chain here in the States, Circuit City. Now, I've had my problems with them in the past and pretty much stopped shopping there. But they were the ONLY local retailer that carried the Panasonic FZ20 camera... at full retail. But, I checked their website and they had a sale that was available only on their website that knocked $75 off the price of the camera for web purchases only. The great thing was that I could opt for picking it up at my local store. I saved a lot of money had got it right away.
To further prove my point about the benefits of brick and mortar, I noticed two dead pixels on my LCD screen. I took the camera back and they were more than willing to exchange it but they were out of stock. But they had them at another location that was actually closer to my home. They took the original cam back and reserved one at the other store location. On the way home from work, I picked up my new replacement with no issues.
I got my original camera quick and at a fair price and even had it replaced the same day when I discovered a problem. Circuit City does a lot wrong in my experience but they did everything right in this case.
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What sort of timeframe will updates be?
RoB
My schedule is probably one of these a month. But, if we get a lot of feedback and/or suggestions of what you want to see, we could ramp it up a bit. I have my own agenda but I am interested in what our readers want to see. Keep in mind, there are a lot of great digital photography websites out there. I'm trying to keep this in context as to how it applies to our audience.
Looking forward for the next chapters, I haven't really played around with most of the settings on my camera yet, and since I spend most of my free time here on bit-tech it would be a great way to learn
Personally I'd like to see more than 1 chapter a month though ;)
EDIT: btw, is that a pic of you camera? good choice if it is ;)
Use a flash
Use a tripod
USE THE DAMN MACRO BUTTON!
Longish read but looked helpful, I more glanced over it than anything as I already have a digicam though.
Yes, that's my new baby, the Panasonic FZ20. :D
Since different models handle features so differently, future chapters will cover the features, what they are intended for and some practical examples of why you should use them (we'll also include flashes and tripod type accessories).
I was after the lesser one, FZ10, but I couldn't find anyone who had any in stock so ended up with a Fujitsu S602Pro, I got a 1gig microdrive chucked in for free so I couldn't say no, also, I prefer regular 'AA' batteries.
I'm reasonably happy with it although I find it has really poor auto focusing ability. Once I learn to use it properly and can justify an upgrade I'll be looking again at Panasonic or Canon :)
Full manual all the way
Look for a place that doesn't sell on comission, otherwise u all need a cannon 20d with upgraded lens package (2500 dollars)
wide selection of cameras from low end (olympus d series maybe or kodaks) right to the top (nikon d70 or canon 20D)
if they dont let u play with the camera first, dont bother
if they wont refer u somewhere else if u need it, walk away. People are amazed when we tell them they can get something better or cheaper somehwere else. Good customer service makes it a better place to deal with
if you cant justify buying the digital slr u really want, dont bring ur wife/parents/signifigant other to talk you outta it :D
If you want a camera goto www.dpreview.com
Agreed, I've said theres more to image quality than the pixel count for a while now (mainly to defend my 3.3 mpix cam ;)).
i have a 3.3mp olympus 3040 and it takes much better pics than what ive seen from new 5mp "fashion" and compact cameras
although i have a 6.3mp canon as well, and it takes better pics than the olympus, but we wont go there :)
seems like a lot of people just take the MP into account, ie any 5mp camera is better than any 3mp camera, was in jacobs a bit ago and overheard someone that came in and asked what small 5mpox+ camera theyd reccommend for taking everyday pics and viewing them on a pc and not printing
Link http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical/refurb/shop.php
I also moderate at a great digital camera forum called digi darkroom
Link http://www.digi-darkroom.com/
But I found the first part a bit dissapointing.
It was more a guide to purchasing a digital camera.
L
That would be the first step, yes...?
Maybe so. I think most people are grown up enough to buy stuff on their own. :)
But It wasn't a complaint though. Just a remark. I'm looking forward to the actually photography guide.
:)
L
I told a friend about this place as he was looking at a Fuji S7000 and the price they asked was the best he'd seen. I had warned him but he gave it a try...and they said they had them at that price. When he went ahead with the order they then asked what warranty he wanted to buy. He said he'd just take the manufacturer's warrenty that came with the camera. They said that none came with it and it would cost him about $100 for one thru them. So he cancelled. I found another place that was actually $6.00 lower in price than their mid price and got it from them. It came...with warranty...full battery and all. I am happy but not with that company. So be careful as the article says...and look around very good. Good deals can be found but you have to be careful.
BigTBird, I really appreciate your testimony and welcome to bit-tech.net I hope you stay. I would really like to avoid this thread being a slagging thread. I would actually really like to hear your stories, your experiences are invaluable but let's all try to keep individual business names out of it. I know this sounds counter productive when we are discussing chosing a safe place to buy from but it could get ugly. If you have a story of a happy purchase, by all means list them here too.
I'll start the ball rolling. A prime example of some of the principals of what I covered and a true indicator of how business has changed is where I bought my new camera. I found a pretty good deal (not the best but close enough) at a website for a national retail chain here in the States, Circuit City. Now, I've had my problems with them in the past and pretty much stopped shopping there. But they were the ONLY local retailer that carried the Panasonic FZ20 camera... at full retail. But, I checked their website and they had a sale that was available only on their website that knocked $75 off the price of the camera for web purchases only. The great thing was that I could opt for picking it up at my local store. I saved a lot of money had got it right away.
To further prove my point about the benefits of brick and mortar, I noticed two dead pixels on my LCD screen. I took the camera back and they were more than willing to exchange it but they were out of stock. But they had them at another location that was actually closer to my home. They took the original cam back and reserved one at the other store location. On the way home from work, I picked up my new replacement with no issues.
I got my original camera quick and at a fair price and even had it replaced the same day when I discovered a problem. Circuit City does a lot wrong in my experience but they did everything right in this case.
Yes, very soon. I have some new stuff coming in that I wanted to include in the next two chapters. :D